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Mephistofelicia said:She is referring to their magics working on devils. Word Devil flat-out could not affect dark magic, as it's from his world, and time magic seems to hold higher "authority" than any other attribute, as none of them can affect it, yet it can affect all of them. If Julius were to successfully trap a devil, he would be capable of killing it, as in taking its life. Slightly stronger than Patri, whose far more powerful form (as he had since awakened) got curb-stomped by a Word Devil who didn't even have his grimoire at the time. There is literally 0 chance for Julius to win this. This is Frieza vs Yamcha.
i havent responded yet because i´ve been trying to figure out what the hell this says and i will admit:Mephistofelicia said:She is referring to their magics working on devils. Word Devil flat-out could not affect dark magic, as it's from his world, and time magic seems to hold higher "authority" than any other attribute, as none of them can affect it, yet it can affect all of them. If Julius were to successfully trap a devil, he would be capable of killing it, as in taking its life. Slightly stronger than Patri, whose far more powerful form (as he had since awakened) got curb-stomped by a Word Devil who didn't even have his grimoire at the time. There is literally 0 chance for Julius to win this. This is Frieza vs Yamcha.
Saying that she doesn't know for certain is supported by no evidence and is a rather bold assumption, especially when it has been shown for her to know things far harder to know than this. In the very same chapter, it was revealed that she knew Julius lost his powers. Also, given how smart she has been consistently shown to be and how she takes her position of leadership seriously, it would make no sense to assume that she is willing to risk the safety of her entire kingdom on a claim she would be uncertain of, especially when the fighters she is relying on are explicitly stated to be low tier (lesser than stage 9, stage 6, and tier 2, none of which can even contend with devils). If we go by what is justifiable, then your claim is wrong. You are reading too much into the "has potential to" phrase. If that type of fallacious logic is acceptable, then it should be acceptable for me to claim that the Devil should be able to simply wish death upon people with his Kotodama magic, given that it was never explicitly stated in words that he cannot do this. And honestly, no reason was given for why he should not have been able to. Of course, we know the reasons, but those reasons are implicit, and you obviously cannot take the idea of "magic via wishing" completely literally and to its extreme. There are many other ways to apply that fallacious logic to arrive at absurd conclusion in Black Clover. But it is just that: fallacious.Bob8999 said:she also says they ¨hold the potential to defeat one¨ which means she doesnt know for certain, she just thinks they could and in truth there isnt a whole lot to back it up. but i dont think that was the argument.
I vote Julius wins mid difficulty.Epsilon R said:So
Who votes who?