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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Because there's nothing to imply that Uro has poor stamina and can't just stall while hard countering him without domain. Yuji is a hand to hand fighter against Uro who can just deflect all of Yuji's attacks and spam thin ice breaker. If she's ever running out she can literally just fly and stall and Yuji doesn't really have a way to get her. She literally just hard counters him and he doesn't have a way to really hit her outside of CT burnout.
She got smoked in more or less 5min in the fight against Yuta and Ryu. She also lacks CE reserves like Yuji and top of his own physical stamina. He survived and lasted more time than anyone except Gojo against Sukuna. On top of that continuous usage of RCT & Domain , SD. Still was able to keep going

I think there is enough feats for Yuji Stamina compared to Uro who got blasted by GB and kicked bucket.
 
Thing is it was said that he learned the basics of barrier techniques from Kusakabe, so while yeah Kusakabe is one of the best barrier users I'm not entirely sure if he would have that great of refinement. That and he's new to domains
It's not just Kusakabe. IIRC BF also gave him buffs due to awakening. So new or old shouldn't matter. His domain has much better feats compared to Uro.
 
Thing is it was said that he learned the basics of barrier techniques from Kusakabe, so while yeah Kusakabe is one of the best barrier users I'm not entirely sure if he would have that great of refinement. That and he's new to domains
I would argue that just the basics of barrier techinques wouldn't be enough for Yuji to make a domain expansion in the first place. Domain Expansions are the height of jujutsu, and as explained by Kusukabe they are a complex combination of conditions and binding vows. That and he has replacement training with Yuta as well Sukuna doing Domain Expansions in his own body to provide Yuji with an even greater understanding of Domain Expansion. Yuji is also able to choose which curse techinque is imbued into his domain, his domain itself is I believe the second largest seen in the series, and Yuji is able to take Sukuna on a tour through his life utilizing his domain in a similar means to what Kenjaku and Tengen could do by changing the contents and even creating life for it. While he doesn't display the ability to change the barrier's position like other top tier Domain users, I do think he shows much better skill than the likes of Uro or Ryu with just his sole domain expansion
 
Blood Manipulation from a sorcerer is poisonous to Cursed Spirits, Choso's blood is poisonous to humans because he's part Cursed Spirit
Yes?, but I'm talking about Choso is also a Blood Manipulation user and a partial sorcerer. His hybrid physiology should work both ways. Normally, sorcerers are already resistant to cursed spirits CE, as we saw in JJK 0. However, his blood still poisons sorcerers. Hence he should also be able to use BM, as Kamo’s blood similarly poisons curses. We shouldn't disregard BM characteristics just because he is a hybrid. He still posses same CT as Kamo.
 
She got smoked in more or less 5min in the fight against Yuta and Ryu. She also lacks CE reserves like Yuji and top of his own physical stamina. He survived and lasted more time than anyone except Gojo against Sukuna. On top of that continuous usage of RCT & Domain , SD. Still was able to keep going

I think there is enough feats for Yuji Stamina compared to Uro who got blasted by GB and kicked bucket.
She got the shit kicked out of her by Rika, Yuta, and then a granite blast from Ryu. Considering her physicals suck (she’s literally featless in that department) I think it has less to do with physical stamina and more just she got her ass beat by two of the strongest sorcerers with the highest output in the area

I think you’re overplaying how much Yuji spammed those abilities. Like halfway through the fight he stopped using RCT, he only used simple domain once, and his reserves would’ve been shot after he opened his domain. He has good stamina don’t get me wrong but he wasn’t constantly using those like you’re implying
 
Worth reminding that after the Yuta fight and during the Maki and Kusakabe ones, Yuji was off-screen probably getting some rest.
 
Which is completely fine since he’s not a stamina merchant like Yuta and Sukuna are thanks to their CE reserves.
 
Which is completely fine since he’s not a stamina merchant like Yuta and Sukuna are thanks to their CE reserves.
I think Yuta explicitly isn't a stamina merchant because his low efficiency with his CE. That was kinda the point outlined by his Sendai Colony battle, he can bottom out real quick and he's just able to reset with the help of Rika.
 
I think Yuta explicitly isn't a stamina merchant because his low efficiency with his CE. That was kinda the point outlined by his Sendai Colony battle, he can bottom out real quick and he's just able to reset with the help of Rika.
But this CE efficiency issue is only in Sendai and his training during the timeskip pretty much covered that, since he was able to expand his Domain and spam RCT all the time during the fight.
 
Rereading the Yuta domain fight and the whole sequance where they are trying to prevent Sukuna from firing of WCS goes so hard

Like you can feel how hard they are trying to not give him even a chance of firing it off

It’s one of the best fights in the manga. Hopefully the anime does justice to it and makes it even better.
 
But this CE efficiency issue is only in Sendai and his training during the timeskip pretty much covered that, since he was able to expand his Domain and spam RCT all the time during the fight.
Also the main reason he bottomed out during Sendai was cause he had to constantly spam RCT cause he was getting jumped and he had to constantly heal his wounds from Ryu and Uro. With how we see him in Shinjuku he definitely improved in that regard.
To address both of these, Yuta doesn't actually take as much punishment nor fight for as long as he did in Sendai Colony as he does in Shinjuku. While I'm sure he's improved, I don't think he demonstrates well his improvement in stamina because in sendai colony he gets hit with I believe six big moves before he's about to bottom out, and in Sendai he doesn't even get hit with four before Sukuna WCS.

In fact, Yuta is a lot more restrained overall in his ability usage than he was in Sendai Colony. He's not using RCT offensively like he did against Kurostuchi, he's not doing cursed energy blast, he has Rika fully manifested the entire exchange.

I think Shinjuku Showdown Yuta showcases better his Domain improvements and tactility that it does anything related to Cursed Energy Proficency
 
You are forgetting that Yuta is the only sorcerer that can give himself the luxury of being reckless with his efficiency (at least pre-shinjuku) because of his massive reserves and Rika acting as his external deposit.

It's very likely that prior to sendai he had never bottomed out nor was he trained for efficiency as there was no need for it.

Even in his fight with Yuji we can see him surging with CE without a care, unlike most sorcerers who try to keep it at a minimum to not give their next moves..
 
I think he's talking about the fact Sukuna literally tells him to dodge when he casts it where with others he just goes straight for it.


Yuji fired piercing blood point blank, literally centimeters from his face, and even in that time he still managed to turn his head so that it only hit his cheek, so yes Sukuna was able to react to it.

Sukuna consistently dodges or blocks piercing bloods before that chapter, hell he dodged one in that chapter too from like half a meter away. The only reason he didn't fully dodge that one was cause it was practically touching his head
If he got hit, that means he was slower than the PB lmao, otherwise he wouldnt

A stronger form with a way higher output was consistently dodging the PB before..
You forgetting that yuji is consistently making sukuna weaker, which explains why he got hit by one..
 
Sukuna gave that man an advance warning before firing it and Kashimo still lost half of his hand
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Sukuna gives literally everyone an advance warning before firing WCS, he literally has to say 3 chants before firing It lol, which everyone knows exactly what chant is...
Still, kashimo is the only one who dodge an actual WCS with a high output
 
Sukuna gives literally everyone an advance warning before firing WCS, he literally has to say 3 chants before firing It lol, which everyone knows exactly what chant is...
Still, kashimo is the only one who dodge an actual WCS with a high output
Dodge is very generous here, he got his whole arm cut off. The only character in the showdown to not get hit by WCS at all after it's fired is Maki
 
Says Gege

Do you even know what "blitz" means you spam that thing here & there without realising what you are talking about.

When Sukuna was telling him to dodge* & Kashimo has X ray vision
Yeah Maki also dodges it when she can see it.
It ain't a lot. You can dodge it if you can see it.

Because Yuji is HIM

Yuji is still one of the best CQC fighters in the verse he has enough skills to dodge some bullshit like that.
Sukuna doesnt tell him to dodge exactly when he is firing, he Says "evade this" and after that, he fires, which still a speed feat lmao, and maki dodged a wcs with less output, less speed, less everything

While yuji cant barely block and react to normal dismantles with shit output and also, was getting slapped by a sukuna that couldnt dodge a supersonic attack, but somehow, kashimo who has a mHS+ and SoL attacks wouldnt cook him... zip his pants up when you done bro..
 
She got the shit kicked out of her by Rika, Yuta, and then a granite blast from Ryu. Considering her physicals suck (she’s literally featless in that department) I think it has less to do with physical stamina and more just she got her ass beat by two of the strongest sorcerers with the highest output in the area
Bro, are you implying Sukuna isn't stronger than them? Yuji tanking Sukuna's attacks isn't a better feat than that?
She getting beat up is durability feat? How that proved anything about stamina?
I think you’re overplaying how much Yuji spammed those abilities
No more like you are downplaying his feats

He has better efficiency with RCT due to the Death Paintings' physiology and can fight for a longer time using RCT. He was able to survive and continue fighting against Sukuna even after being damaged nearly to the point of death four times.

He also managed to keep running and fighting him continuously from start to finish, second only to Gojo in the Shinjuku Showdown. He was down for two chapters, but we know he had issues with RCT due to unknown damage he had taken and was still trying to recover, so he wasn’t just resting. RCT still costs some level of CE.

When he returned, he used multiple Black Flashes and employed SD for around 99 seconds. He also took damage from Sukuna's full-output Domain Cleave, which pierced his stomach, and his leg was cut off. He still used some amount of patch RCT in that situation.
.Like halfway through the fight he stopped using RCT,
Why stopping RCT means his stamina is not better than Uro?
he only used simple domain once,
So Uro can use her Domain multiple times? Tell her to do everything I mentioned above and prove she would still have the CE reserves to spam a Domain. Also, you're acting like anyone with a finite reserve can spam Domains multiple times (except Sukuna).
and his reserves would’ve been shot after he opened his domain.
He was still standing and fine to some extent so even after his Domain was destroyed, so he would still have some reserves left.
He has good stamina don’t get me wrong but he wasn’t constantly using those like you’re implying
He was using RCT whenever necessary; even when Angel's CT hit him, we saw RCT smoke coming from his shoulders. He wasn’t using it like he was at the beginning, but he still had enough reserves to perform some patchwork level RCT and continue fighting.

Let’s not forget all the things created inside Yuji's Domain. Logically speaking, it should have drained much more CE compared to other Domains. Considering his previous damage and his continuous fight with Sukuna, he should have already used a large amount of CE. But the fact that he still had enough CE to deploy a massive sized Domain with possibly the most contents inside it shows his CE efficiency and reserves.

Also how any of you said proved Uro's Stamina > Yuji's Stamina feats which I mentioned?
 
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Sukuna doesnt tell him to dodge exactly when he is firing, he Says "evade this" and after that, he fires, which still a speed feat lmao, and maki dodged a wcs with less output, less speed, less everything

While yuji cant barely block and react to normal dismantles with shit output and also, was getting slapped by a sukuna that couldnt dodge a supersonic attack, but somehow, kashimo who has a mHS+ and SoL attacks wouldnt cook him... zip his pants up when you done bro..
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If he got hit, that means he was slower than the PB lmao, otherwise he wouldnt

A stronger form with a way higher output was consistently dodging the PB before..
You forgetting that yuji is consistently making sukuna weaker, which explains why he got hit by one..
You said he got blitzed. He did not get blitzed because if he did he’d have a ******* hole between his eyes

Bro, are you implying Sukuna isn't stronger than them? Yuji tanking Sukuna's attacks isn't a better feat than that?
She getting beat up is durability feat? How that proved anything about stamina?
What? I’m not saying Sukuna isn’t stronger than them that’s obvious.

I didn’t say that’s a durability feat nor a stamina feat. I’m saying shes feat less in terms of physicals and her getting the shit kicked out of her by three physically superior foes doesn’t mean she has shit stamina

Gonna reply to the rest when I’m on my pc cause editing the replies for each thing is ass
 
Okay back on my PC and I'm reading through this and like 90% of it is misinterpreting what I was trying to say or maybe I was just misinterpreting what you were saying. Either way, one of us misinterpreted the other

No more like you are downplaying his feats

He has better efficiency with RCT due to the Death Paintings' physiology and can fight for a longer time using RCT. He was able to survive and continue fighting against Sukuna even after being damaged nearly to the point of death four times.

He also managed to keep running and fighting him continuously from start to finish, second only to Gojo in the Shinjuku Showdown. He was down for two chapters, but we know he had issues with RCT due to unknown damage he had taken and was still trying to recover, so he wasn’t just resting. RCT still costs some level of CE.

When he returned, he used multiple Black Flashes and employed SD for around 99 seconds. He also took damage from Sukuna's full-output Domain Cleave, which pierced his stomach, and his leg was cut off. He still used some amount of patch RCT in that situation.
No you're misinterpreting what I was trying to say. You said:
On top of that continuous usage of RCT & Domain , SD. Still was able to keep going
The way I read this, you effectively said he constantly used RCT, domain, and simple domain which, latter two is wrong, and for RCT:
Why stopping RCT means his stamina is not better than Uro?
Never said that what I was saying was that he wasn't constantly using RCT every time he got hurt and had to stop after a while. That doesn't correlate to me saying he has worse stamina than Uro. Those are two different statements.
He was still standing and fine to some extent so even after his Domain was destroyed, so he would still have some reserves left.
Maybe some. I also didn't say he'd have none, I said they'd be shot, ie he'd have the majority gone.
He was using RCT whenever necessary; even when Angel's CT hit him, we saw RCT smoke coming from his shoulders. He wasn’t using it like he was at the beginning, but he still had enough reserves to perform some patchwork level RCT and continue fighting.
We see the same smoke coming from Sukuna so that smoke could just be from Jacob's Ladder's burning effect (though it was just really bad cause Hana was missing an arm). Could also be from RCT idk.
Let’s not forget all the things created inside Yuji's Domain. Logically speaking, it should have drained much more CE compared to other Domains. Considering his previous damage and his continuous fight with Sukuna, he should have already used a large amount of CE. But the fact that he still had enough CE to deploy a massive sized Domain with possibly the most contents inside it shows his CE efficiency and reserves.
We don't know how constructs created inside domains work in regards to cursed energy usage (If we go off of that then guys like Dagon have insane reserves/efficiency) and we also don't know why his domain was that large. Could've been cause of inexperience (It's noted during the Gojo fight that the larger a domain's shell is the weaker/less refined it is), could've been cause he just wanted to make it that big, could've been cause Gege wanted that cool shot of it towering over buildings as it shattered.
Also how any of you said proved Uro's Stamina > Yuji's Stamina feats which I mentioned?
Literally none of what I said was me trying to prove that Uro has better stamina. What I was trying to say was that Yuji's overall stamina is good but with your wording it made it sound like he could effectively spam RCT constantly which we see there's a limit to how much he's willing to use it. In the beginning he heals most of his wounds, even ones at the point where it wouldn't hinder him but by the halfway point he stops doing so and only heals major wounds (his cut up eye for example)
 
I think Yuta explicitly isn't a stamina merchant because his low efficiency with his CE. That was kinda the point outlined by his Sendai Colony battle, he can bottom out real quick and he's just able to reset with the help of Rika.
Something I'd like to point out is Yuta was already fighting nonstop in the most brutal colony a whole day before the rest of Jujutsu High entered the Culling Games and he was doing so while actively saving people.
We first see him taking down a 2 time reincarnated sorcerer even.
Then there's the attacks that he used RCT for which would kill so many other characters in the series:
Had to RCT Kurotsuchi's blade to his arm and stomach which birthed cockroaches in him which ate their way out.
RTC to kill Kurotsuchi
RCT'd multiple thin ice breakers
RTC'd multiple limb destroying blasts from Ryu
All this while limiting himself in each of those fights as to avoid hurting civilians or showing his hands in his deck of cards.
 
Okay back on my PC and I'm reading through this and like 90% of it is misinterpreting what I was trying to say or maybe I was just misinterpreting what you were saying. Either way, one of us misinterpreted the other
No you're misinterpreting what I was trying to say. You said:

The way I read this, you effectively said he constantly used RCT, domain, and simple domain which, latter two is wrong, and for RCT:
Never said that what I was saying was that he wasn't constantly using RCT every time he got hurt and had to stop after a while. That doesn't correlate to me saying he has worse stamina than Uro. Those are two different statements.

Maybe some. I also didn't say he'd have none, I said they'd be shot, ie he'd have the majority gone.
To clarify the misunderstanding:

When I mentioned continuous RCT, SD, and domain, I was referring to him using them consecutively?(I'm not sure if I'm using correct words) during the fight, spamming one after another without taking breaks. I'm not trying to say he was using RCT from the beginning to the end of the fight.

Beginning he was spamming RCT, then he pulled up SD stopped using RCT but still has shown stamina to punch and kick Sukuna, then pulled out DE, Then started fighting Sukuna inside of it.
We see the same smoke coming from Sukuna so that smoke could just be from Jacob's Ladder's burning effect (though it was just really bad cause Hana was missing an arm). Could also be from RCT idk.
Sukuna had RCT, he just didn't have its full output. He healed his face to some extent after Yuta/Gojo’s HP.
We don't know how constructs created inside domains work in regards to cursed energy usage (If we go off of that then guys like Dagon have insane reserves/efficiency)
IIRC It's clearly mentioned that Dagon has an endless supply of CE to support his domain because he is a sea curse or something like that.
and we also don't know why his domain was that large. Could've been cause of inexperience (It's noted during the Gojo fight that the larger a domain's shell is the weaker/less refined it is), could've been cause he just wanted to make it that big, could've been cause Gege wanted that cool shot of it towering over buildings as it shattered.
Gojo's fight is often misinterpreted. You can check Kusakabe’s explanation in the next chapter. Normally, a domain’s coordinates are fixed. Gojo enlarging his domain by changing his fixed coordinates disrupted it.
Literally none of what I said was me trying to prove that Uro has better stamina. What I was trying to say was that Yuji's overall stamina is good but with your wording it made it sound like he could effectively spam RCT constantly which we see there's a limit to how much he's willing to use it. In the beginning he heals most of his wounds, even ones at the point where it wouldn't hinder him but by the halfway point he stops doing so and only heals major wounds (his cut up eye for example)
Yeah I'm not trying to say he was Regenerating throughout the fight. I'm just trying to say he could do all of those things and can still stand still and keep fighting for longer period of time compared to others shown in the verse.

Only Gojo and Sukuna showcased similar feats for longer time period stamina like this.
 
She got caught off and had her arm bit off, and prior to that was 2v1 by Rika and Yuta, possibly the two strongest characters besides Gojo and Sukuna. This shit isn't even comparable lmao.
IIRC Ryu clearly mentioned that even if Uro had RCT, she would need too much CE to regenerate her arm, implying she didn’t have enough CE left after using her DE. So whether she got off-guard cooked or not shouldn’t matter, I guess. She still lacks feats compared to what Yuji has accomplished throughout the series.
 
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