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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Todo coming back would be fine and great If Gege had made a proper preparation for that

Like, fr, the last time that Todo's name was mentioned was in the end of Shibuya, and now Gege made a 360 degrees turn and made him join the fight alongside Itadori after Choso's death just because

See this as the following
  • You get rid of a side character for two years
  • Refuses to mention him in any shape or form
  • Brough him back in the last arc, in the last fight and in the last second moments after the death of a important character
  • Doesnt elaborate further
 
Rosa said:
was it bullshit for Rock Lee to show up in the war arc? It had been over a hundred chapters since we last saw or heard of him!
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Brother stop replying to me I gave my opinion on what I thought about this chapter and I think it’s bullshit. You are NOT going to debate my own opinion with me. Keep it to you.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
thats what you said 4 months back about kenny vs takaba

Can't fool me you goose and I am saving this convo for later blackmail just FYI.
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I also said that a bunch of different things sucks in the meantime and I still stand by it.
 
Sun, I'm Sorry, but M3X is right

This chapter sucks and make me think Gege as one of the worst mangakas in the past years of Jump
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Sun, I'm Sorry, but M3X is right

This chapter sucks and make me think Gege as one of the worst mangakas in the past years of Jump
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hard disagree on one simple fact


THESE ARE LEAKS YOU CAN'T EVEN READ YOU SILLY SILLY MAN!

I mean really everyone keeps doing the same thing over and over: "this chapter sucks" translations come out* oh actually its pretty good.

Like I am genuinely tired of this commnuity doing the same thing over and over again, its like reading a history book and seeing that people really don't bloody learn from the past one bit.
 
Every shonen series takes side characters out of the story for an arc or two so that they can focus on other members of the cast before reintroducing them into the story, Gege gave us a believable reason why Todo wouldn't be present and why he would be present in this final arc. Todo was never a main character, him not being there as a focal point pf every arc isn't poor writing, Gege was right to give other side characters the spot light for an arc. It hasn't subtracted from his character, it hasn't subtracted from the other characters, it hasn't subtracted from the overall themes and dynamics of the story, it makes sense the way it happened, it's a coherent story balancing its time amongst its cast in an effective manner. I don't see anything wrong with this.
 
My brother, Gege can write the new Bible explaning how Todo is coming back I'm not gonna enjoy it. He should have prepared it couple of chapters prior
 
Sakamaki_Fuji said:
What are yall bitching about again lmao
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Rosa said:
when Todo showed up against Mahito we hadn't seen him for nearly 100 chapters and it wasn't set up the chapters prior. You call that peak but this ass writing, I'm just looking for some consistency.
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TELL ME ABOUT IT LIKE CHIRST

one second they praise shibuya for all its story beats like todo showing up but when it happens now and with similar consistency (character close to yuji dies (nobara, but hey she might just be alive) and todo shows up to keep his spirit up, peak fiction, gege does it again but after gojo is dead? nah shit writing)
 
Sakamaki_Fuji said:
What are yall bitching about again lmao
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Apparently you cannot have opinions or dislike a JJK chapter, otherwise people will be here invalidating your opinion or trying to explain to you that what Gege did is good because reasons.

Me and LOK just did not like the chapter and we think Todo’s comeback is bullshit. I just don’t remember asking anyone to provide me any explanations as to why it makes sense or to why it doesn’t suck.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Apparently you cannot have opinions or dislike a JJK chapter, otherwise people will be here invalidating your opinion or trying to explain to you that what Gege did is good because reasons.
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ok.. now this is exactly like the Takaba chapters I mean even with the "oh its seems you can't dislike anyhing gege writes" defence, beat for beat. History is a cyclical thing isn't it?
 
Sir_sun_man said:
ok.. now this is exactly like the Takaba chapters I mean even with the "oh its seems you can't dislike anyhing gege writes" defence, beat for beat. History is a cyclical thing isn't it?
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What about the other chapters after Takaba that I said it sucks massive dicks and still stand by it?

The only reason I like Takaba Vs Kenjaku fight is because it made the pace better because chapters were trash at that time and most of them still are.

Can I not dislike a chapter without you bringing up a switch up I have regarding one fight? What about the other dozens of chapters that I did not switch up?
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Apparently you cannot have opinions or dislike a JJK chapter, otherwise people will be here invalidating your opinion or trying to explain to you that what Gege did is good because reasons.

Me and LOK just did not like the chapter and we think Todo’s comeback is bullshit. I just don’t remember asking anyone to provide me any explanations as to why it makes sense or to why it doesn’t suck.
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in the same way you're allowed to publicly criticise a series, everyone else is allowed to criticise your takes. It's a public discussion thread. We're not saying you're not allowed to feel a certain way just because we don't also feel that way or disagree with you.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
What about the other chapters after Takaba that I said it sucks massive dicks and still stand by it?

The only reason I like Takaba Vs Kenjaku fight is because it made the pace better because chapters were trash at that time and most of them still are.

Can I not dislike a chapter without you bringing up a switch up I have regarding one fight? What about the other dozens of chapters that I did not switch up?
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you see the difference between the others is that you judged them after everything was said and done and the line of events was clear and that is enough to respect thy opinion.

But much like with the precpective shift with takaba you are calling it shit prior to the completion of the line of events that will be Todo+yuji vs sukuna and even prior to translation exactly the same as you did with Takaba V Kenny which turned out to be one of the best fights in the series, which is one silly and two brings me immense hype since that likely means this fight is about to pop off just like takaba V kenny maybe even more so.

also this is the first time I brought up your take on Takaba V kenny to dunk on you, the other time was just a joke when you brought up how the fight was goated about 2 months ago.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
you see the difference between the others is that you judged them after everything was said and done and the line of events was clear and that is enough to respect thy opinion.
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That’s not the difference. I switch up on the Takaba fight solely because it made the pace better. At that time chapters were trash and Gege just activated automatic pilot to write them.

The event of Todo coming back is what I don’t like. He can one shot Sukuna in the next chapter and I will still stand by what I said. It’s not the subsequent events but the main one, aka Todo coming to the battlefield.
Sir_sun_man said:
But much like with the precpective shift with takaba you are calling it shit prior to the completion of the line of events that will be Todo+yuji vs sukuna and even prior to translation exactly the same as you did with Takaba V Kenny which turned out to be one of the best fights in the series, which is one silly and two brings me immense hype since that likely means this fight is about to pop off just like takaba V kenny maybe even more so.
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As much as I like when you interact and joke with me, please do not act like I’ll switch up regarding everything. I still think Nobara’s death was arguably the worst decision in the manga by far (her come back would take the 1st place). I still think Yuki being wasted against Kenjaku is one of the worst decisions as well, same with Higuruma, as much as I liked his conclusion, I think he had more to show.

Heck, I wouldn’t even switch up on Takaba if the chapters weren’t so awful at the time.

Translations doesn’t matter since they won’t change the fact that Todo came out of nowhere.
Sir_sun_man said:
also this is the first time I brought up your take on Takaba V kenny to dunk on you, the other time was just a joke when you brought up how the fight was goated about 2 months ago.
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I know it’s the first time but in this same occasion here you brought it up a lot of times. There’s an specific reason that I switched up on this fight and Todo coming back doesn’t share the same context.
 
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Like I didn’t even disliked the chapter itself, Todo coming back is what I don’t like. Feels like Gege is making sure that the meme about bringing up someone else to fight alongside Yuji every week is kept alive.

I don’t mind Choso dying, I actually think it took some time for someone to die after Higuruma. I just don’t care enough about JJK characters to feel bad about it (and let’s be honest the leaks were cringe as hell).
 
M3X_2.0 said:
That’s not the difference. I switch up on the Takaba fight solely because it made the pace better. At that time chapters were trash and Gege just activated automatic pilot to write them.

The event of Todo coming back is what I don’t like. He can one shot Sukuna in the next chapter and I will still stand by what I said. It’s not the subsequent events but the main one, aka Todo coming to the battlefield.
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eh different taste I suppose cuse I for one love it, its gives off that same feel of shibuya and their showdown with mahito at the end of it all (which maybe forshadowing, the type I am sorta sad about cuse it means todo is going to actually die by the end of this fight which is rather saddening)
M3X_2.0 said:
As much as I like when you interact and joke with me, please do not act like I’ll switch up regarding everything. I still think Nobara’s death was arguably the worst decision in the manga by far (her come back would take the 1st place). I still think Yuki being wasted against Kenjaku is one of the worst decisions as well, same with Higuruma, as much as I liked his conclusion, I think he had more to show.
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yeah nobara coming back needs to be handled really well for it not to stink to high heaven, Yuki could've had more done with her but I wouldn't say she was full on wasted, she could use some more narrative meat on her character bones but she fuffiled her role well, hard disagree for higaruma he was handled well through and through and his death is top notch (better than nanami to be honest, since nanami didn't get much development to be honest).
M3X_2.0 said:
I know it’s the first time but in this same occasion here you brought it up a lot of times. There’s an specific reason that I switched up on this fight and Todo coming back doesn’t share the same context.
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... thats how conversations work I made a point and focused on it? like yeah I brought it up "multiple times" in the span of 6 sentances, ya know like you would... In an actual conversation?
 
Rosa said:
Every shonen series takes side characters out of the story for an arc or two so that they can focus on other members of the cast before reintroducing them into the story, Gege gave us a believable reason why Todo wouldn't be present and why he would be present in this final arc. Todo was never a main character, him not being there as a focal point pf every arc isn't poor writing, Gege was right to give other side characters the spot light for an arc. It hasn't subtracted from his character, it hasn't subtracted from the other characters, it hasn't subtracted from the overall themes and dynamics of the story, it makes sense the way it happened, it's a coherent story balancing its time amongst its cast in an effective manner. I don't see anything wrong with this.
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I agree with this. I’m certainly hyped for Todo’s return myself but my issue is just where was he this whole time? The Shibuya one makes sense because of the timeline of events. Right after Goodwill, Yuji and co go on a mission then Shibuya happens. We even get a reason why Kyoto was late to the party. In this case, Todo disappears after Shibuya then doesn’t show up at all for PP or CG arc then he just waltzes in again now. It feels odd that no one even mentioned him like at all.
 
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