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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Kircdaaa
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and for what use is it?
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I lied
Kircdaaa
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arkenis and reaper was talking abt it tho?
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Perfect Sphere is a High 3-A attack that Yorozu can use. She creates a sphere using her Creation CT that applies infinite pressure because it is perfect and has no contact area.
Arkenis
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I am referring to Yorozu using it on them. They do not have true sphere. Go reread 217-219.
Arkenis
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Exactly, especially with knowledge he has a barrierless domain, he likely won't do domain at all, therefore Kenjaku will and can abuse that.
Just going off the story. Kenjaku, the guy who brought Angel back, somehow didn't know about a ct that extinguishes ct? If it was something impressive then it would've been mentioned. Yuta copied it and still didn't use it on Kenjaku, they never even make it something important in beating Kenjaku the guy with two cursed techs.
Where tf this thing Yuta beating Kenjaku come from?
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Why would Kenjaku even do that? Okay, let’s say he does. What would happen? What does his Domain do? What’s the effects? Yuta will pop up a Simple Domain to buy time so he can Jacob Ladder Kenjaku from a distance and extinguish his CT, or press him alongside Rika on a 2v1 and make him undo his Domain. Cursed Speech commanding him to stand still and cutting his head off again. Too many possibilities. His Domain isn’t instantaneous.
If anything that’s not going by the story. You made up a whole argument in your mind that Kenjaku now has knowledge and counters to every single sorcerer he made a vow with. Even if he does, you’re still arguing something that has a lot of variables and different instances. Like, let’s say Kenjaku knows about Jacob’s Ladder. Why would he think Yuta has it? How would he counter it? How effective would it be?
You’re taking your headcanon way too serious and acting like Kenjaku is a genius mastermind when in reality he felt for the oldest trick in the book.
Much more versatile, more wincons, better stats.
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The only relevant thing Kenjaku has over Yuta is his Domain, but:
Yuta has two directs counters to CSM, RCT output and Jacob’s Ladder. Rika is also more powerful than a handful of them.
He won’t be able to use antigrav system if he cannot move because of Cursed Speech, and it only affects 3 meters from him.
Really, Kenjaku may be one of the most overrated characters in the series. Not that Yuta isn’t as well, but arguing for a Domain that we don’t know anything about its effects and acting like that’s Kenjaku’s first move and risking getting his CT burnout is crazy.
- We don’t know what it does
- We don’t know if the effects are instantaneous
- It takes time to destroy a Simple Domain entirely
Yuta has two directs counters to CSM, RCT output and Jacob’s Ladder. Rika is also more powerful than a handful of them.
He won’t be able to use antigrav system if he cannot move because of Cursed Speech, and it only affects 3 meters from him.
Really, Kenjaku may be one of the most overrated characters in the series. Not that Yuta isn’t as well, but arguing for a Domain that we don’t know anything about its effects and acting like that’s Kenjaku’s first move and risking getting his CT burnout is crazy.
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Like, just read the fight against Yuki and see how despite she was damaged by his Domain, she was still fighting him afterwards on equal grounds. Yeah, the Domain has been dispelled afterwards, but he won’t get the chance to command the sure-hit again when Yuta uses a CT against him.
Yuta will do the same as Yuki, but instead of not healing, he will immediately heal and fight a Kenjaku that doesn’t have any CTs to use, fighting Yuta who will be spamming Cursed Techniques and Rika who is as strong as Yuta at least.
The most overhyped Domain in the series by far. If it didn’t kill Yuki, it won’t kill Yuta either. And if he doesn’t kill Yuta with this Domain, he’s absolutely ****** afterwards. Kenjaku even admits that Yuki would’ve been in a better state if she opened her Domain as well to fight his.
Yuta will do the same as Yuki, but instead of not healing, he will immediately heal and fight a Kenjaku that doesn’t have any CTs to use, fighting Yuta who will be spamming Cursed Techniques and Rika who is as strong as Yuta at least.
The most overhyped Domain in the series by far. If it didn’t kill Yuki, it won’t kill Yuta either. And if he doesn’t kill Yuta with this Domain, he’s absolutely ****** afterwards. Kenjaku even admits that Yuki would’ve been in a better state if she opened her Domain as well to fight his.
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Yuta isn't as tough as Yuki though? Plus you're ignoring a pretty big factor in Yuki's survival against Kenjaku, and that's the fact Tengen got rid of Kenjaku's domain. Yuta has no way to get rid of Kenjaku's domain as its missing a barrier to attack and Rika lacks a simple domain to not be struck with Uzumaki and essentially dropped from the fight while Kenjaku is stripping any SD Yuta might put up away. And there's no way that Yuta's domain is as poslished as Kenjaku's seeing as Kenjaku is a barrier master on par with Tengen (the noted best in the series).
Kenjaku's domain is more than enough without any given context because if Kenjaku can choose his sure hit like Yuta, Yuta's ******. But even if its just Uzumaki or Anti-gravity with no choice, he's still ******. Either way, Yuta has no way to deal with the sure-hit that put Yuki on the ground and with the severe drop in output from such devastating damage Yuta is cooked.
Kenjaku's domain is more than enough without any given context because if Kenjaku can choose his sure hit like Yuta, Yuta's ******. But even if its just Uzumaki or Anti-gravity with no choice, he's still ******. Either way, Yuta has no way to deal with the sure-hit that put Yuki on the ground and with the severe drop in output from such devastating damage Yuta is cooked.
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Gravity that destroyed Yuki and his domain will rip off simple domain. Spams curses, millions to hold off Rika, now its a 1v1 with Kenjaku still using curses and blocking any attack with gravity. Uses domain amp or simple domain to block any ct like Jacobs Ladder. Cursed Speech wasn't used on Kenjaku to slice off his head in the manga, not sure how it's gonna be useful here.
What trick? He was weakened by Takaba, and already lost several of his special grades and they STILL needed Todo. This isn't head canon, its something Gege's made clear to us.
Yuki wasn't standing still and got hit by it. Moving around isn't gonna help. Yuta never abuses Cursed Speech and we know higher commands hurt the user instead.
Can't even spam RCT and got drained by it. How you think he'll just spam RCT output and JL makes no sense.
He doesn't need to move to use antigravity. Go look at how long 3m is, anything getting in close is not touching him.
Okay, maybe I just haven't seen it, where is it said Kenjaku's use of gravity isn't the domain's ct?
It really wasn't on equal grounds and their h2h was short lived then Choso came and Kenjaku fought both while held down by Garuda.
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how the fight goes
"oh he isn't opening domain, Womb Profusion" gg he gets gravity crushed
"oh he isn't opening domain, Womb Profusion" gg he gets gravity crushed
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Based on what? Yuki’s feats are limited to his fight against Kenjaku. Yuta is the one with better durability feats, and the one compared to Yuji, who is one of the toughest characters in the series by far.
I am not, I acknowledge this in my comment.
You’re acting like Yuta will simply stand still while Kenjaku’s Domain do all the work against him and Rika. He can dispell her so she won’t take any damage, or simply use a Cursed Technique like Cursed Speech to command Kenjaku to stand still and beat him to dispell the Domain. The SD will get shredded yeah, but it still takes time, enough time for Yuta to act and use a CT.
It doesn’t matter, there’s no point in Yuta opening his Domain just to get a CT burnout.
Not even close, this is not how it works anyway. The sure-hit is dependent on which CT he imbues the Domain with, and by the damage Yuki took, and the movement he made, it’s Anti-Gravity System most likely.
Gravity that damaged Yuki* and only that. She was still there afterwards to fight him. Yuki bought time with Simple Domain but she cannot fight Kenjaku on long range like Yuta can when he uses a Simple Domain. Yuta has a bunch of attacks that can cover the distance almost instantly. Pops a Simple Domain and uses Jacob’s Ladder that extinguishes his CT.
Let’s stop with this thing about NEEDING characters to cooperate to fight Kenjaku. They did this because they need to make quick work of him because Yuta had to be somewhere else. Not because he was not capable at all.
She was, she uses her Shikigami to distract Kenjaku and then she reappears behind him. Uses does abuse Cursed Speech whenever he feels like, used it against Geto, Uro and Sukuna. It only hurts the user if the caster is overusing it, and “don’t move” isn’t a strong command as “die” or “explode”. And Kenjaku doesn’t have the necessary to make it backfire against Yuta.
Drained because he fought Dhruv off-screen, then Kurourushi, then Uro, then Ryu, before he drained himself. And if he is to use Jacob’s Ladder, he has to be connected with Rika. If he is connected with Rika, she will replenish his CE pool constantly. There is no drain, and there will be spam.
It’s never confirmed, but the damage does look like it. He needs to move to activate the sure hit it seems.
How was it not? Extremely nerfed Yuki traded blows with him for two pages before Garuda came in to restrain him, and what’s the problem with Garuda helping if it’s part of her kit? Kenjaku only managed to keep up in the next chapter and barely.
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Yuta most likely doesn't have SD. He swapped with Yuji (Don't know Yuji himself stated) and Likely Hakari (Domain co-ordinate change) during 1 month time skip. So it's unlikely he learned SD on his own. Not saying he can't but still it's up to assumption there is no proof for it.
Anyway I'm not interested in Kenjaku vs Yuta for now. So not taking any sides. Just wanted to say Yuta didn't had time to learn SD as far as we know.
Anyway I'm not interested in Kenjaku vs Yuta for now. So not taking any sides. Just wanted to say Yuta didn't had time to learn SD as far as we know.
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Hakari stated that if they’re gonna fight Sukuna, they’ll need RCT and Domain countermeasures. Yuta most likely had it way before this arc, and if he didn’t, he definitely got it in the training since Ino and Choso also got it. And having a Domain doesn’t necessarily counters another.
It’s very safe to assume he has it.
It’s very safe to assume he has it.
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Nah Ima do you one better, we gonna get this Yuta vs Kenjaku figured out.
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Yeah I cosplay as Yuta and you cosplay as Kenjaku and we fist fight to death
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Oil up too
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Go to horny jail
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Giannysmag
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You need to be killed without the use of jujutsu to turn into a vengful spirit
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Dealing with the body was only an issue with Geto because someone straight up body jacked him cause they didn’t cremate him. Curses only form when someone isn’t killed by jujutsu (see Gakuganji telling this to Noritoshi and just Naoya in general)
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"Yuta > Kenjaku" in grandiose 2024 
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Giannysmag
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"Yuta > Kenjaku" in grandiose 2024
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Honestly I kinda want one now too, they seem really cool
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This perfectly sums up my thoughts on Yuta vs Kenjaku and plenty of other fights in the series
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EldemadeDityjon
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Sakamoto Days got the coldest Panel out of these
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Kenjiku vs Yota
"I Have Lived. A Thousand Years!! Of Conflicts!! And Alliances!! A CURSED WORLD!!!" "Come, Rika. Give Me Everything." SBA Shinjuku Yuta Location - Shinjuku Yuta: Kenjaku:
Arkenis
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Uh daily Gege rant.
We still have zero idea about different cursed energy traits and why Kashimo and Hakari are the only ones to have them. Was this just a cool little add-on for them cuz they fought each other but never have them talk or explain why they have it? Yet another time Gege added something in the series for it to go nowhere and not be explained to us.
We still have zero idea about different cursed energy traits and why Kashimo and Hakari are the only ones to have them. Was this just a cool little add-on for them cuz they fought each other but never have them talk or explain why they have it? Yet another time Gege added something in the series for it to go nowhere and not be explained to us.
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Idk why Hakari has it but Kashimo was probably cause Gege wanted to give him an ability but his technique can’t be used without killing him so he just got the electricity trait
Gotta give him something to make him the strongest of the edo period when he can’t use his technique
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Well I guess it's just they are some irregulars among the Jujutsu Society?. Like how HR users.
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But it's heavily unexplored since the only one who has a complex technique is dead and the other hasn't been seen in ages (that and his technique is pretty straightforward.)
