Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[eibwen]

What part of “at will” not being in the text you didn’t understand yet?

I dont get it, I think BF in the first place is described more of a technique rather than just simply applying cursed energy
I honestly do not know why BF mention physical and cursed energy both hits at the same time at 0.000001, isnt your hand supposed to be filled with cursed energy for the full duration of the fight? doesnt matter 0.000001 or 0.00000000000, your hits are always constantly filled with CE already
if the timing between physical and CE was off then everyone be pulling yuji's lagged punch, in which, no one does that
So my theory is the way you apply BF is more of a special technique that you're somehow applying CE differently, it should explain both the "at will" or "aim for" or whatever

 

[M3X_2.0]

I dont get it, I think BF in the first place is described more of a technique rather than just simply applying cursed energy
I honestly do not know why BF mention physical and cursed energy both hits at the same time at 0.000001, isnt your hand supposed to be filled with cursed energy for the full duration of the fight? doesnt matter 0.000001 or 0.00000000000, your hits are always constantly filled with CE already
if the timing between physical and CE was off then everyone be pulling yuji's lagged punch, in which, no one does that
So my theory is the way you apply BF is more of a special technique that you're somehow applying CE differently, it should explain both the "at will" or "aim for" or whatever

Honestly man I don’t care about Black Flash at all. Just find weird that people are so focused on it as a speed thing when there are arguably better feats to scale off.

 

[Giannysmag]

when there are arguably better feats to scale off.

Good to see that you finally accepted the rel+ meta

 

[M3X_2.0]

Good to see that you finally accepted the rel+ meta

I’m murdering you.

 

[Giannysmag]

I’m murdering you.

Not if i kill myself first

 

[M3X_2.0]

Not if i kill myself first

 

[SuperStar]

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Low 1-c, immeasurable JJK incoming

 

[Giannysmag]

Low 1-c, immeasurable JJK incoming

Downplay smh

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Honestly man I don’t care about Black Flash at all. Just find weird that people are so focused on it as a speed thing when there are arguably better feats to scale off.

You don't even think the verse breaks Supersonic so what better feats could there be? Mach 1.08?

 

[Quantu]

Whats this Black Flash stuff being yapped about? I must have missed something/I'm OOTL

 

[M3X_2.0]

You don't even think the verse breaks Supersonic so what better feats could there be? Mach 1.08?

Milly stop being stupid.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Milly stop being stupid.

I’m not, every discussion we’ve had with speed you’ve never agreed with any speed rating beyond Supersonic. So I don’t know what better feats you’re looking at.

 

[Giannysmag]

Whats this Black Flash stuff being yapped about? I must have missed something/I'm OOTL

Gojo mentions that if BF was simply about the 0.00000001 timeframe he'd be able to use it at will

 

[SuperStar]

 

[Quantu]

Gojo mentions that if BF was simply about the 0.00000001 timeframe he'd be able to use it at will

lmao.

RIP BF cap for Gojo/Sukuna.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

LMAO.

Btw Yuji is technically a cannibal just like Sukuna

I’d say Yuji eating the death paintings is less cannibalism and more him absorbing his siblings into himself

 

[Giannysmag]

I’d say Yuji eating the death paintings is less cannibalism and more him absorbing his siblings into himself

I mean so is Sukuna eating his twin but we still call that cannibalism lol

 

[Arkenis]

You don't even think the verse breaks Supersonic so what better feats could there be? Mach 1.08?

What do you think is best evidence for the verse having mhs combat speed?

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Why didn't we add in Hanami's domain? Phantom parade showed it and it's from gege's original concept/databook name.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What do you think is best evidence for the verse having mhs combat speed?

I already know that there’s no way the verse accepts Rel to FTL, much less anyone barring Gojo and Sukuna, even that being a stretch apparently, I’ll reveal it in the thread.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Why didn't we add in Hanami's domain? Phantom parade showed it and it's from gege's original concept/databook name.

Can you show it?

 

[M3X_2.0]

I’m not, every discussion we’ve had with speed you’ve never agreed with any speed rating beyond Supersonic. So I don’t know what better feats you’re looking at.

I’ve never agreed with anything beyond Supersonic from characters that are not Sukuna and Gojo because they have a lot of limitations.

I cannot rate Shibuya characters as anything other than Subsonic because Piercing Blood was stupidly faster than Itadori and his chances of dodging it are 50/50. Itadori being one of the fastest characters back there.

I cannot rate CG characters beyond Supereonic because Naoya has to stack his CT to even surpass Subsonic speeds. Even without stacking he already blitzed Choso and Itadori.

Every time we chatted about it you’re always almost attacking me saying JJK is now a MHS verse even though only two characters scales to anything at that level.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Can you show it?

Basically buffs/debuffs and makes the solar beam a sure hit

 

[M3X_2.0]

Should have CG characters in this game so we could see Ryu’s and Uro’s Domains.

If Ryu’s sure hit is just stronger Granite Blast then he should kill himself.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Naoya is literally fodder to top tiers. Maki stoold him lmao.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I cannot rate Shibuya characters as anything other than Subsonic because Piercing Blood was stupidly faster than Itadori and his chances of dodging it are 50/50. Itadori being one of the fastest characters back there.

I agree.

I cannot rate CG characters beyond Supereonic because Naoya has to stack his CT to even surpass Subsonic speeds. Even without stacking he already blitzed Choso and Itadori.

I somewhat agree. CG is very heavily contested.

Every time we chatted about it you’re always almost attacking me saying JJK is now a MHS verse even though only two characters scales to anything at that level.

I’m not attacking you, but you make your stance very clear that nobody in the verse is MHS, literally no less than 5 hours ago you just admitted that Gojo isn’t MHS, so why do you suddenly think there are better feats for everyone scale to?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Naoya is literally fodder to top tiers. Maki stoold him lmao.

Doesn’t really matter how top tiers would consider Naoya, he still limited Itadori, Choso and who scales to them with his technique. In Culling Games, at least.

Maki I agree she scales beyond him in human form at least. Also consistent as she was faster than Itadori against Meguna.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I’m not attacking you, but you make your stance very clear that nobody in the verse is MHS, literally no less than 5 hours ago you just admitted that Gojo isn’t MHS, so why do you suddenly think there are better feats for everyone scale to?

I said that I’m not letting you make Gojo MHS with Black Flash (or something among these lines). I didn’t say that Gojo isn’t MHS at any circumstances.

 

[Arkenis]

Maki get's amped by her senses, so using her against Cursed Naoya isn't really smart.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I said that I’m not letting you make Gojo MHS with Black Flash (or something among these lines). I didn’t say that Gojo isn’t MHS at any circumstances.

That wasn’t even my goal to make him MHS with BF.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Maki get's amped by her senses, so using her against Cursed Naoya isn't really smart.

That’s why I don’t agree with Maki scaling to Cursed Naoya’s Mach 3 speed.

Although I still need to reread that fight because there’s some feats to calc and I want to analyze more. But from what I remember, she only reacted and dodged Naoya after getting the senses Toji had.

I think she absolutely demolishes him and doesn’t matter how much he stacks his CT to amp his speed though. Which is beyond Subsonic.

 

[Arkenis]

Strongest First Grade vs Fastest Sorcerer (Besides Gojo uwu)

Kusakabe Naobito SBA Strongest: Fastest:

vsbattles.com

 

[Giannysmag]

On the topic of curse Naoya why hasn't anyone calced Mkai punching him mid air? Even if it isn't exactly mach 3 it's still porbably in the supersonic range

 

[M3X_2.0]

On the topic of curse Naoya why hasn't anyone calced Mkai punching him mid air? Even if it isn't exactly mach 3 it's still porbably in the supersonic range

I’ll probably do it

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Doesn’t really matter how top tiers would consider Naoya, he still limited Itadori, Choso and who scales to them with his technique. In Culling Games, at least.

Maki I agree she scales beyond him in human form at least. Also consistent as she was faster than Itadori against Meguna.

By top tiers I mean the likes of Yuta, Hakari, Maki, etc.

Daido literally tagged bro and fended him off despite having 0 Cursed energy as well.

 

[Arkenis]

Daido literally tagged bro and fended him off despite having 0 Cursed energy as well.

Wasn't at top speed.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Maki get's amped by her senses, so using her against Cursed Naoya isn't really smart.

This argument is dumb. Everyone uses their senses to fight. Maki's got better. her base sensory skills are now better. I'm not quite sure you know how reactions and speed correlate in the body.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Wasn't at top speed.

Naoya's reactions are >= his top speed buddy