EldemadeDityjon
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Nah jujutsu fans just don't know winning ≠ Stronger.
Ryu was still stronger than Yuta still lost.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Ryu was still stronger than Yuta still lost.
EldemadeDityjon
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Well that's the point. Yuta had other things in his bag. Ryu is just kick punch merchant with energy beams. Ryu has higher AP but Yuta took him out with his abilities. Not saying it's wrong. I was talking about Winning doesn't automatically mean they has higher AP or physically stronger. Yuta was still comparable to Ryu to some extent. Shinjuku Yuta should be EQ to Ryu's physicals arguably.
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah I was just talking about AP/Strength. More like physical capabilities. It's not about winning or losing.
Btw I wanted to ask you regarding Ino's profile. Do you have his stats in your sandbox? I'm planning on updating his profile when new chapter comes out officially.
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Second in unusual abilities yes yes.
Next.
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Which is jujutsu. Which is power. Which makes him the second strongest.
Guacamolefletcher
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Read what I said
I think whatever it is, Hakari is at worst <~ Yuta in physicals. I think it’s very likely Yuta is saying stronger in terms of physicals, or just being humble but overall holding him to a similar pedestal as himself. I don’t think it makes sense for Hakari to be far far far weaker
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I also think Hakari and Yuta are on par with each other in terms of power
Guacamolefletcher
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This is the single dumbest argument people make.
The kanji is about “unusually high” capabilities, “superpower,” “superhuman power”
It’s saying he’s the second strongest sorcerer.
Even Kenjaku says “Yuta is second to Gojo.” Obviously he’s not saying he has the second best hax or has the second most unusual abilities, he’s saying he’s got the second best Jujutsushi from the modern age.
Yuta is the most complete sorcerer barring Gojo
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Moreover, "unusual abilities" is a Werry-ism
Guacamolefletcher
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It’s only somewhat a wrong translation
Jisho.org: Japanese Dictionary
jisho.org
Once you read the translations and the kanji that make it up, it’s 10000000000000000% clear it’s talking about Jujutsu / sorcery strength but OF COURSE John Werry made it weird
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Unusual abilities doesn't really translate to stats lol.
Yes power in the abilities he has... Rika, copy etc. Ct and Rika.
Yall just twisting the statement to mean something else. Don't try it.
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Still a Werry-ism because people arrive at the wrong conclusion because of it
Guacamolefletcher
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Read the rest of what I said
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Ur lost. That shit is quite literally about CT and rikaIt’s only somewhat a wrong translation
Jisho.org: Japanese Dictionary
Once you read the translations and the kanji that make it up, it’s 10000000000000000% clear it’s talking about Jujutsu / sorcery strength
Nothing about him being the second strongest or stat wise second strongest.
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I did. People aren't gonna make that takeaway cuz they're just reading. They're most likely going to make the most simple conclusion from it
ReaperAndBlues
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It's called agenda. People would disect this statement to hell and back and be super skeptical if they were downplaying, but others will take it at face value if they were wanking. One Piece fans do this all the damn time.
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I am trying it. You’re in the wrong here. Kenjaku states those whole manipulate and control that energy (cursed energy) are called sorcerers. Stop coping.
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Ur lost. That shit is quite literally about CT and rika
Nothing about him being the second strongest or stat wise second strongest.
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No you're the one being wrong here. This is quite literally about his CT and Rika. Yall just tryna extrapolate so bad.
Maybe u should take a look at why Yuta considers Hakari stronger with JP
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Jujutsu is in and of itself a power beyond humans, hence me bringing up the Kenjaku bit. Thus, those who could control that energy are called sorcerers. Yuta is second to Gojo in jujutsu. Meaning his stats are not inferior to Hakari. You’re losing this.No you're the one being wrong here. This is quite literally about his CT and Rika. Yall just tryna extrapolate so bad.
Maybe u should take a look at why Yuta considers Hakari stronger with JP
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No idea why most or many Yuta fans can't accept this. Like does it matter that Hakari and Yuta are relative in stats with the one edging out being Hakari? Yuta beats him anyways with his DE, alongside other haxes and the like even with Hakari being physically superior. Yuta got that kit with him after all.
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No you're the one being wrong here. This is quite literally about his CT and Rika. Yall just tryna extrapolate so bad.
Maybe u should take a look at why Yuta considers Hakari stronger with JP
You're losing the fact that it is talking about abilities that correspond to CT and Rika. Which we see being heavily demonstrated IN CG. His most prominent trait is literally JUST that. And Hakari is a kick and punch merchant primarily compared to what Yuta is. That's his most prominent trait quite literally (well his immortality is there too, but given how he's stat wise > Yuta. It would make sense as to why that statement of unusual abilities in context refers more to Yuta's ct and Rika rather than this interpretation you're going with that is nowhere ever proven. Quite the opposite actually. The Ryu fight and his output being stated to be the best amongst all CG players would put your interpretation of Yuta being second strongest in stats to nothing.)
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You can argue in circles if you want, I’m taking the narrator and Kenjaku’s words over yours.
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How do you make sense of Ryu's output being the highest in cg, and his time, with Kashimo who is part of Ryu's time being comparable to Hakari in output combined with the fact Ryu thinks Yuta's output isn't bad and Yuta being comparable to Ryu's output in reinforcement?
The way I see it, the statement Hakari is stronger in JP isn't important when Yuta's reinforcement is greater than Hakari's output, Yuta's output isn't considered bad by the highest output in cg, and Yuta's speed is comparable to Sukuna and Yuji, both who can keep up with Maki.
It's like arguing "well my swords stronger" so, what "my swords bigger and I have fire and its more durable and I can duplicate my sword and I'm cooler"
Its just a pointless topic to argue over when Yuta outperforms in better aspects. The only thing Hakari has that's worth bringing up is rct speed.
The way I see it, the statement Hakari is stronger in JP isn't important when Yuta's reinforcement is greater than Hakari's output, Yuta's output isn't considered bad by the highest output in cg, and Yuta's speed is comparable to Sukuna and Yuji, both who can keep up with Maki.
It's like arguing "well my swords stronger" so, what "my swords bigger and I have fire and its more durable and I can duplicate my sword and I'm cooler"
Its just a pointless topic to argue over when Yuta outperforms in better aspects. The only thing Hakari has that's worth bringing up is rct speed.
ReaperAndBlues
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Get interested in JJK scaling I said, it'd be fun I said...
Arkenis
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It is fun when you don't have a OP, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Jojo, Re:Zero, fan in your ear telling you its ass.
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JoJo powerscalers when you tell them their verse is forever locked at tier 8
ReaperAndBlues
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OP and Re:Zero fans have no right to say shit about JJK scaling, or almost any scaling really. Re:Zero supporters don't consider that the opposing character can actually move too and aren't just a statue and believe that skill wins every debate, and OP scalers are headcannon central.
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One piece powerscaling is the original agenda war. JJK powerscaling could never
ReaperAndBlues
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That's why it's called "Agenda Piece"
Guacamolefletcher
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Guys, I found a new Sukuna speed downscale argument
The speed of PB comes from the pressure of convergence, and Sukuna doesn’t compress water until it becomes ice
He’s cooked FTL JJK in the gutter
The speed of PB comes from the pressure of convergence, and Sukuna doesn’t compress water until it becomes ice
He’s cooked
FTL JJK in the gutter
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Mmm so fun this is so fun!!!
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Jojo haters after their characters get turned into infinitely rotated spaghetti by a disabled man
Arkenis
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Eh Hot Chilipepper 7-C
Arkenis
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Nah wait that would've been cool if he replicated Uraume's "piercing ice" lolGuys, I found a new Sukuna speed downscale argument
The speed of PB comes from the pressure of convergence, and Sukuna doesn’t compress water until it becomes ice
He’s cooked
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