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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

It's nowhere near as bad as some people think imo, but I do think the jump is slightly extreme from 235 to 236, I would have preferred maybe one extra panel, something like this

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Quantu said:
It's nowhere near as bad as some people think imo, but I do think the jump is slightly extreme from 235 to 236, I would have preferred maybe one extra panel, something like this

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that last panel did not exist what the ****??

did you edit that?
 
Since we are talking about Gojos death again imma throw in my own to cents.

I think him being off screened is one of the dumbest decisions in the series because not only does it make thw transition from chap 235 to 236 extremely jarring, it also raises the question of how the **** he even got hit by it in the first place. That being said Gege has a chance to explain that in a flashback or smth.

The afterlife scene is mostly good and a nice send off to Gojos character (assuming he is fully dead), except for the "you only used Jujutsu for your own pleasure" line which is completely contredicted by everything Gojo has done throughout the series.

But my biggest issue is that Gojo didnt really get to accomplish anything after being unsealed. A big part of his character is that despite being the strongest he ultimately couldnt fix anything in the long run, so having him actually achieve something really major against Sukuna and leaving his students with a real chance of victory would be a good ending to his character. But nope Sukuna just had a secret way of fully healing himself and now any damage Gojo did is gone.
 
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Quantu said:
It's nowhere near as bad as some people think imo, but I do think the jump is slightly extreme from 235 to 236, I would have preferred maybe one extra panel, something like this

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Although not displaying that slash and starting from the airport, it's still a good plot twist, if you ask me. Revealing that slash would have made it obvious to fans that Gojo lost, but we waited for two weeks with different theories, like Sukuna using Open or Kenjaku intervening. Offscreen was good when viewed from a suspense perspective.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Although not displaying that slash and starting from the airport, it's still a good plot twist, if you ask me. Revealing that slash would have made it obvious to fans that Gojo lost, but we waited for two weeks with different theories, like Sukuna using Open or Kenjaku intervening. Offscreen was good when viewed from a suspense perspective.
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When we see ⬛ Open again in the manga I'm going to lose my shit fr
 
Quantu said:
When we see ⬛ Open again in the manga I'm going to lose my shit fr
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I thought Sukuna would use it against Gojo because no one in the verse can push him to use it. The technique is kept as suspense by Gege. Its revelation should be dope. I wonder who will make Sukuna use that now.
Sir_sun_man said:
YES!
thank you, it demonstrated perfectly what gojo went through because, even after all is said and done his closes friends even after dying couldn't truly reach and understand him, as;
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The infinite distance between gojo and even his closest friends made the process of understanding impossible, he was a blooming bright flower that no one could truely touch or understand, untill the king of curses cut through the infinity between them and plucked the flower off it stem, enjoying its incredible flavour and smell.
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wink wink nudge nudge*

I mean after I re-read the last 30 chapters and listened to some other peoples takes this became such an in your face simbology that its hard not to see how briliant it actually is.

Hell in all honesty in a different life sukuna and gojo could've been good friends (and I mean look at their fight, even during the near death situations they were bringing one another the bastards where smiling like they where having the time of their lives and both even seemed friendly to one another at points)
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Btw whatever may others say Kashimo and Sukuna conversation goes hard. Most probably my favourite conversation throughout the series.
 
Sukuna genuinely looks like he hates using flames lol.
plus i highly doubt thats all he can do.
i think his CT is based on a ******* kitchen.
 
Giannysmag said:
Since we are talking about Gojos death again imma throw in my own to cents.
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I mean i get you but the whole off screen thing is silly to me, we see the fight in full, we see all the preperations and forshadowings (peel of your scales, you are my shadow not fushiguros now, the toji outfit and of course the little panel of gojo not being able to process dismantle sukuna threw at him during the start of their fight) us seeing gojo just get cut down and instantly going into the airport would honestly take away more than it would give, I mean hell for all the really big fights sukuna had its been an "offscreen" kill, jogo, maho (we never see the arrow hit), yorozu and now gojo. It honestly gives the chapter and the moment so much more impact than it would other wise (I mean look at the fandom that shit sent ripples through out the whole internet in less than 2 mins after it was shown)

the afterlife scene was the exact moment that made it so poinent in the first place, because after everything gojo did, after all his efforts and training, people couldn't see him for more than his strength even those closest to him which is further supported by a few pages waaaaay back in a volume 10 extra.
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E2zTudYXIAISbZx

I mean look at this people name some terrtery qualities about him but they all boil him down to one thing "the strongest" and look at gojo in that last panel, does he look happy? prideful? no, he looks alone a person at the top who can only be admired from afar, someone who can't be understood by those weaker than him, his greatest curse, his strength.
(and I mean its not like this point get beaten over our heads every chance gege could get)
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(i'd grab more but i'm lazy)
right?

as for gojo's achivements I think it makes his character even more potent that despite all that strength he couldn't pull through when it actually mattered, "All the strength in the world but still unable to change it".
 
Quantu said:
When we see ⬛ Open again in the manga I'm going to lose my shit fr
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tell me about it man! when I saw that piercing water sukuna used against gojo I though he oppened it earlier and is now using some unknown CT but it was revealed to be max elephant's ability and I got a bit saddened that we still haven't seen Fuga yet.

But with kusakabe bringing it up this chapter, I have a bad feeling that sukuna is gonna go get himself some BBQ.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
I mean i get you but the whole off screen thing is silly to me, we see the fight in full, we see all the preperations and forshadowings (peel of your scales, you are my shadow not fushiguros now, the toji outfit and of course the little panel of gojo not being able to process dismantle sukuna threw at him during the start of their fight) us seeing gojo just get cut down and instantly going into the airport would honestly take away more than it would give,
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The foreshadowing was there and i knew something was gonna happen in 236, but to me the whole thing felt less shocking and more just jarring and annoying
Sir_sun_man said:
I mean hell for all the really big fights sukuna had its been an "offscreen" kill, jogo, maho (we never see the arrow hit), yorozu and now gojo. It honestly gives the chapter and the moment so much more impact than it would other wise (I mean look at the fandom that shit sent ripples through out the whole internet in less than 2 mins after it was shown)
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The difference betwen Gojo and everyone else you mentioned is that for them we knew the attack was coming we just didnt see the moment of impact
Jogo and him have stand off with their flames at hand
Maho literally has the fire arrow inches from his face
We see Sukuna summon Maho before Yorozu gets killed
We see the wave of slashes that are about to hit Kashimo
In all of these cases we see Sukuna prepare his attack, we dont need to see it because we know whats about to happen. But with Gojo there were a million ways 236 could have started that werent Gojo lying dead on the floor
Sir_sun_man said:
the afterlife scene was the exact moment that made it so poinent in the first place, because after everything gojo did, after all his efforts and training, people couldn't see him for more than his strength even those closest to him which is further supported by a few pages waaaaay back in a volume 10 extra.
E2zTudWWEAkBo94
E2zTudVXwAEXHT3

E2zTudYXIAISbZx

I mean look at this people name some terrtery qualities about him but they all boil him down to one thing "the strongest" and look at gojo in that last panel, does he look happy? prideful? no, he looks alone a person at the top who can only be admired from afar, someone who can't be understood by those weaker than him, his greatest curse, his strength.
(and I mean its not like this point get beaten over our heads every chance gege could get)
2023-12-25_190744.png
2023-12-25_190914.png
2023-12-25_190710.png
(i'd grab more but i'm lazy)
right?

as for gojo's achivements I think it makes his character even more potent that despite all that strength he couldn't pull through when it actually mattered, "All the strength in the world but still unable to change it".
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I think there is a disconnect here betwen us. You think that Gojo dying without accomplishing anything or having people realise who he is is a good ending because thats how he was written throughout the story (at least i think thats what you are getting at). But for me thats the issue because it makes his whole character ultimately feel pointless
Sir_sun_man said:
Oh btw guys.

Do you think Hana tasted like chiken with the whole wings and dove shit he has going on?
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Judgeman confiscate his cooking license
 
Sir_sun_man said:
YES!
thank you, it demonstrated perfectly what gojo went through because, even after all is said and done his closes friends even after dying couldn't truly reach and understand him, as;
image.png


The infinite distance between gojo and even his closest friends made the process of understanding impossible, he was a blooming bright flower that no one could truely touch or understand, untill the king of curses cut through the infinity between them and plucked the flower off it stem, enjoying its incredible flavour and smell.
2023-12-25_182528.png

wink wink nudge nudge*

I mean after I re-read the last 30 chapters and listened to some other peoples takes this became such an in your face simbology that its hard not to see how briliant it actually is.

Hell in all honesty in a different life sukuna and gojo could've been good friends (and I mean look at their fight, even during the near death situations they were bringing one another the bastards where smiling like they where having the time of their lives and both even seemed friendly to one another at points)
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JJk is very explicit about the ideas it wants to present to the audience. all you need to do it pay attention
 
Quantu said:
It's nowhere near as bad as some people think imo, but I do think the jump is slightly extreme from 235 to 236, I would have preferred maybe one extra panel, something like this

LlJZOvd.jpg
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Maybe the anime team will do something similar when this gets adapted, though they might just end the episode at chapter 235 and begin it at 236. Hope they address this issue and make it flow more naturally.
 
Giannysmag said:
The foreshadowing was there and i knew something was gonna happen in 236, but to me the whole thing felt less shocking and more just jarring and annoying

The difference betwen Gojo and everyone else you mentioned is that for them we knew the attack was coming we just didnt see the moment of impact
Jogo and him have stand off with their flames at hand
Maho literally has the fire arrow inches from his face
We see Sukuna summon Maho before Yorozu gets killed
We see the wave of slashes that are about to hit Kashimo
In all of these cases we see Sukuna prepare his attack, we dont need to see it because we know whats about to happen. But with Gojo there were a million ways 236 could have started that werent Gojo lying dead on the floor
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eh I disagree on that point, mainly since in all the other fights Sukuna was clearly the superior to the level where it wasn't even a question who was gonna win or who would lose, with gojo and him it was different, this whole battle was a battle of semantics and tricks, it was not gonna be won through pure brute force but through a move that the other couldn't see coming (hence why sukuna was nervouse while gojo was preping the unlimited hollow) doing the whole 'Big attack about to hit" wouldn't really mesh well with the fight as a whole.
Giannysmag said:
I think there is a disconnect here betwen us. You think that Gojo dying without accomplishing anything or having people realise who he is is a good ending because thats how he was written throughout the story (at least i think thats what you are getting at). But for me thats the issue because it makes his whole character ultimately feel pointless
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but thats where you are wrong, the whole airport scene was the past talking to gojo (Hibara, Nanami and Geto the ones who failed to understand) but gojo is now understood, by not only the king of curses himself.
https://cdn.****************.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/jjk_236_sv_016.png
and notice one thing, he didn't acknowledge gojo's strength like the others, he specifically acknowledge him, he didn't say he was strong like he did with kashimo and jogo. He acknowledged him as Gojo satoru a man who he will never forget for the rest of his (short) life.
and there is also another thing
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Gojo has facilitated the future, he has cherished and brought up people that have finally understood him the people that could see past the infinite horizon of his strength and even he acknowledges it during the airport with this panel.
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He wanted Geto, his closest friend to be among the people who understood him and stood behind him, but unfortunately that was not to be

Gojo's character is multi layered as while he was only seen for his strength by most, he has found people who one day could reach him and could see him for who he was and for all intents and purposes he has succeeded in that vital task and now that very future he has created is fighting to preserve the world against Ryomen Sukuna.
Giannysmag said:
Judgeman confiscate his cooking license
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