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(JTTW) Sun Wukong CRT

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ActuallySpaceMan said:
Because it's the Revised and latest edition of Anthony C. Yu's translation. I'm pretty sure the one you're using is outdated.
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This translation has very weird interpretations on the text, like rather than say "The Jade Emperor has practiced the Dao..." it says he practiced Religion.

Yeah, this version isn't better than the one I have, regardless.

I told you before, there isn't an objective version which is superior to all other versions, and framing it like that is wrong.
 
Udlmaster said:
This translation has very weird interpretations on the text, like rather than say "The Jade Emperor has practiced the Dao..." it says he practiced Religion.

Yeah, this version isn't better than the one I have, regardless.

I told you before, there isn't an objective version which is superior to all other versions, and framing it like that is wrong.
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Ya that's a big issue, cause I'm pretty sure we can't miss-match translations. And I'm not going through everything and changing scans to an older translation.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Ya that's a big issue, cause I'm pretty sure we can't miss-match translations. And I'm not going through everything and changing scans to an older translation.
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You can just use both.

You can cross-reference translations, that's how I proved the Ganges was infinite, remember?

Because one of the books I had said the Dragons Realms were "as numerous as Sands in the Ganges" and the other one just said "Infinite".

In fact, cross referencing is how we'd get the most accurate version.
 
Udlmaster said:
You can just use both.

You can cross-reference translations, that's how I proved the Ganges was infinite, remember?

Because one of the books I had said the Dragons Realms were "as numerous as Sands in the Ganges" and the other one just said "Infinite".

In fact, cross referencing is how we'd get the most accurate version.
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The issue is when the two translations don't support each other but rather contradict one another.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
The issue is when the two translations don't support each other but rather contradict one another.
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What translations contract each other?

And even then, in such a case, we'd take measure of all the translations we'd have to offer and see what it is translated as most.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
That's true but you can use both and determine which makes sense more with context 😅tho...
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Antvasima said:
Wait a little.

Somebody needs to add an entry to the following page first:

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Epic Literature

Epic Literature refers to (or is the study of) the written works created by people across the world to explain nature, history, and customs, and an important part of each culture. It is a fascinating and controversial topic. The stories found in these pieces have inspired many stories and works...
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Do you mind fixing the stats on Sun Wukong's page, or giving me permission so I can fix it? Stuff like Speed and Lifting Strength are backwards.
 
I have yet to see anyone posit any argument for Wukong actually being weaker, shall I just remove it?

There's no evidence for it on the profile and no one is arguing for it here.
 
Udlmaster said:
I have yet to see anyone posit any argument for Wukong actually being weaker, shall I just remove it?

There's no evidence for it on the profile and no one is arguing for it here.
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Jasonsith was the one who proposed it and it just kind of stuck. If he has no arguments against removing it be my guest.
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Jasonsith was the one who proposed it and it just kind of stuck. If he has no arguments against removing it be my guest.
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His logic btw was that Wukong realistically should stomp 99% of the enemies he has to fight 1v1 but he still gets matched all the time, so a possible explanation is that the 500 years of being sealed weakened him and it was the Buddha's intention to give him more of a struggle so that he can achieve enlightenment or smth
 
GoldExPoints said:
His logic btw was that Wukong realistically should stomp 99% of the enemies he has to fight 1v1 but he still gets matched all the time, so a possible explanation is that the 500 years of being sealed weakened him and it was the Buddha's intention to give him more of a struggle so that he can achieve enlightenment or smth
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Yeah.
 
GoldExPoints said:
His logic btw was that Wukong realistically should stomp 99% of the enemies he has to fight 1v1 but he still gets matched all the time, so a possible explanation is that the 500 years of being sealed weakened him and it was the Buddha's intention to give him more of a struggle so that he can achieve enlightenment or smth
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Why would he stomp them out if he didn't?

In the story, most of his enemies either:
  • Have Sacred and or Magical Weapons which nerf Wukong's ability to fight them (Diamond Ring, etc)
  • Magical abilities which bypass Wukong's resistances and harm him (Fires of Samadi)
  • Fight underwater (Wukong doesn't swim for some reason)
  • They transform into a person and Wukong can’t kill them immediately without being punished.

Every other time, Wukong does stomp people.
 
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I will unlock the page so the incoherent statistics can be corrected.

What conclusions have you reached about his suggested changed abilities?
 
Antvasima said:
I will unlock the page so the incoherent statistics can be corrected.

What conclusions have you reached about his suggested changed abilities?
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Until Jasonsith gives his piece since he was the one who suggested the split keys no changes other than fixing statistics will be made.

Ill upload the Physiology and now, let me know when the profile is unlocked.
 
I have unlocked it already.
 
Thank you. Have you created the Buddhism Physiology page as well, and redirected the links from the blog?
 
Thank you. I made some structural corrections for both pages.

Should a regular "Journey to the West Cosmology" page be created and linked to as well?

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JTTW Cosmology

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Udlmaster said:
Could you unlock the page again, it still needs cleaning up. It's a mess.
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I have unlocked the Sun Wukong page. Do you need any of the other two JTTW pages unlocked as well?
 
ActuallySpaceMan said:
Appreciated it, and here is the page for the Cosmology https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/JTTW_Cosmology_(Journey_to_the_West)
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I moved the page here instead:

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Journey to the West Cosmology

This page is going to do its best to go over the Cosmology of The Journey to the West Novel written by Wu Cheng'en. As a 16th Century Novel JTTW is written with a lot of Flowery Language and it is difficult to decern what is true from what is false. This Cosmology page will be my interpretation...
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