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(JTTW) Sun Wukong CRT
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Can we use Method 1 or should we wait a bit longer?
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I am neutral.
However, we shall actually be discussing:
Given how big JTTW earth is, should the JTTW moon or the JTTW sun be bigger, be rotating and orbiting at a faster speed, and be separated at a longer distance?
(Good timing I gave my evaluation before my Fandom account broke down for no reason)
However, we shall actually be discussing:
Given how big JTTW earth is, should the JTTW moon or the JTTW sun be bigger, be rotating and orbiting at a faster speed, and be separated at a longer distance?
(Good timing I gave my evaluation before my Fandom account broke down for no reason)
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See? JTTW earth is far bigger than our real life earth. To make up, the planet mass of Earth should be way larger.
In return, for moon to orbit around earth and earth to orbit around the sun in the same number of days, we need to adjust their distances and masses accordingly. But this would need university grade physics and astronomy to properly give a formula.
In return, for moon to orbit around earth and earth to orbit around the sun in the same number of days, we need to adjust their distances and masses accordingly. But this would need university grade physics and astronomy to properly give a formula.
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wait how logic works in this universe, I know that all this is mythological but I still see things a little illogical, because apparently the river of silver (Milky Way) is infinite, but at the same time the universe (bigger than the river of silver) is also infinite, that is, it makes no sense that something infinite exists in something more infinite, unless the universe exists on a higher plane.
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A Universe in JTTW is a Low 1-C to 1-C structure.
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ok heaven exists beyond the universe.
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Heaven in its totality is the Physical Universe like ours, The Heavenly Palaces and what not exists on top of that. But they are still within the Three Realms that further exist within The Universe.
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If your problems in this regard continue, you should preferably contact the Fandom staff directly for help.
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So...we have to find the physical measurements of the earth for JTTW now...?
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A calculation for the physical world of Earth is just done, based on what we have for land mass.
Earth radius = 6371000 m
Earth surface area = (given) 5.10072E+14 m^2
Earth land surface area = (given) 1.4894E+14 m^2
Earth land to planet surface ratio = 29.1997992 %
JTTW Earth surface area (1.1448E+17 m^2 / 29.1997992 %) = 3.92056E+17 m^2
JTTW Earth radius =(3.92056E+17 m^2 /4/PI())^0.5 = 176631992.6 m
JTTW Sun Wukong Calcs
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The problem is the determination of sizes with the moon and the sun and the other celestial bodies in the universe. And sadly it may determine the applicability of the calculation above.
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Could we just scale the few hundred thousand mile long river to the real life ganges river and then upscale the JTTW earth with ratio between the Earth's radius with the river's length? It is by far the easiest method to upscale JTTW earth.A calculation for the physical world of Earth is just done, based on what we have for land mass.
Earth radius = 6371000 m
Earth surface area = (given) 5.10072E+14 m^2
Earth land surface area = (given) 1.4894E+14 m^2
Earth land to planet surface ratio = 29.1997992 %
JTTW Earth surface area (1.1448E+17 m^2 / 29.1997992 %) = 3.92056E+17 m^2
JTTW Earth radius =(3.92056E+17 m^2 /4/PI())^0.5 = 176631992.6 m
JTTW Sun Wukong Calcs
The problem is the determination of sizes with the moon and the sun and the other celestial bodies in the universe. And sadly it may determine the applicability of the calculation above.
Udlmaster
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That’s not true.
There’s the Thousand-fold world system and other world systems for one, and there’s a word for worlds, it’s “Loka”.
Udlmaster
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Heaven is indeed in the same physical space as Earth, but it is situated an infinite distance away.
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Well if that's the case we should just use the first method, if anyone figures out how to make the second method work we can do a CRT for it.
Udlmaster
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I mean, do you remember Sumeru? That was comparable to the sun, 640,000 miles in size, the radius of the sun is only 432,288 miles.
JTTW world is massive.
There’s also the continents, and then the rivers which are infinite.
It’s just beyond big.
And then there’s Space and Heaven, and then the pillars of the world.
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While also being contained in a single universe, but then again I admittedly been lax on buddha cosmology in general.
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Yup, which is why I say we should just do it Method 1's way until we figure out a method to accurately gauge the size of every Celestial Body. The last thing I want is for us to be hung up on his Lifting Strength for the next week or two. Especially since both methods leave him at different degrees of Pre-Stellar.
Udlmaster
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It’s not all contained within the same physical universe.
There’s some illusions to that, but the way they are described, for example, Buddha was able to ascend to a higher plane without moving and be unobservable to Brahma.
They’re more so layered on top of each other.
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Just to ask, didn't Wukong at the beggining shoot lasers out of his eyes that pierced the silver way, or is that feat unquantifiable
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We can't really quantify the amount of energy needed for that.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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This i think
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Shouldn't this be posted in a blog first and then evaluated afterwards?
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Jasonsith made those two methods and wanted other calc members to decide which method was best to use. The first method seems more viable atm since the second would take a lot of time to apply and would require us to redo a large number of calcs. Plus he's not even sure how we would do it in the first place.
I suggested we focus on it in another CRT in the future and do Method 1 for now, especially since both methods leave Sun Wukong's lifting strength in Pre-Stellar.
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Okay.
@Jasonsith
KLOL506 and Dark-Carioca seem to have accepted method 1 to be used.
Also, perhaps this is the reason for the problems with your Fandom account?
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@Jasonsith
KLOL506 and Dark-Carioca seem to have accepted method 1 to be used.
Also, perhaps this is the reason for the problems with your Fandom account?
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Alright so I can go ahead and post the profile now?Okay.
@Jasonsith
KLOL506 and Dark-Carioca seem to have accepted method 1 to be used.
Also, perhaps this is the reason for the problems with your Fandom account?
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Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Spaceman said he will do it in another CRT i think
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I think you are confused. Jasonsith finished the calcs for the JTTW Calcs page. The only thing left was to calc the Lifting of JTTW's Moon. He proposed two methods and stated he wanted other calc members' feedback on which should be used.
He then stated that Method 2 while it would be more accurate he doesn't know how to utilize it properly without university-level mathematics. And even once that was figured out all of the calcs done would have to be redone around it.
So since the two calc members here stated Method 1 should be used, I'm saying we should use Method 1 for now as it is simpler and won't take weeks to apply properly. If Jasonsith figures out a way to utilize Method 2 then we can make a CRT in the future to change the calcs around it.
But for now, it would be a waste to wait around for something that may never come.
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Congratulations.
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Okay, and has method 1 been placed in a blog post that can be linked to in the Sun Wukong profile page yet?
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Yup
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Okay. Then it seems fine to me to post the page.
However, I will try to make certain first.
@QuasiYuri @Zaratthustra @Planck69 @Jasonsith
What do you think?
However, I will try to make certain first.
@QuasiYuri @Zaratthustra @Planck69 @Jasonsith
What do you think?
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I am neutral between method 1 or 2 or other methods.
As long as the moon remains looking the same from a JTTW earth surface standpoint I am fine.
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