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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable



Guys, i made this quickly tier list with some Jojo Stands and their attack speed (some Stands are missing, but I plan to add them later. And I didn't count from part 7 onwards either).
Probably not 100% accurate, but i would like to read opinions

(And Ratt is slower than RCHP, my mistake)
 


Guys, i made this quickly tier list with some Jojo Stands and their attack speed (some Stands are missing, but I plan to add them later. And I didn't count from part 7 onwards either).
Probably not 100% accurate, but i would like to read opinions

(And Ratt is slower than RCHP, my mistake)

Why is Aqua Necklace that high up? He's arguably on the slower end of things, he even got blitzed so hard by Plat that if you were to actually calc the difference, it'd be well over a hundred times.
 


Guys, i made this quickly tier list with some Jojo Stands and their attack speed (some Stands are missing, but I plan to add them later. And I didn't count from part 7 onwards either).
Probably not 100% accurate, but i would like to read opinions

(And Ratt is slower than RCHP, my mistake)

GER with the beyond infinite speed being in 2nd place tier
Also Chariot Requiem could be infinite by technicality of controlling other stands
 
Why is Aqua Necklace that high up? He's arguably on the slower end of things, he even got blitzed so hard by Plat that if you were to actually calc the difference, it'd be well over a hundred times.
Rewatching yeah, mb
GER with the beyond infinite speed being in 2nd place tier
Also Chariot Requiem could be infinite by technicality of controlling other stands
I mean attack speed, just physical
 
Like dio stopped time and was going to kill Jotaro. And when he saw Jotaro finger twitch. He just stopped.

granted he was right about being worried about that. But the dude still could have just killed Jotaro right there.



i want to know if there were anymore times in jojo where these two things happen aka This and That
 
no because dio is that cautious after what happened with jonathan, he learned not to **** around with a joestar even by 1 bit. Seeing Jotaro's finger move slightly in his ability to stop time itself would leave you wondering if he can truly move at all and was pretending to be not able to move in his time stop. That's why he went with his knife method later on.
 
Like dio stopped time and was going to kill Jotaro. And when he saw Jotaro finger twitch. He just stopped.

granted he was right about being worried about that. But the dude still could have just killed Jotaro right there.



i want to know if there were anymore times in jojo where these two things happen aka This and That
He stopped in case Jotaro actually could move, if he went for the kill there and Jotaro could actually move he would have got torn apart plus he was shocked, the combination of those had time stop run out before he could figure out what to do.
He wasn't being stupid, he was being cautious, once he found out he could move and confirmed the length of time, he went about killing Jotaro in ways without entering Plat's AOE and risking getting killed himself like knives, stop signs, bullets and more.
couldn’t he just ignore that and just kill him.
He'd be absolutely ******* stupid if he DID ignore that, like the first dude ever out of anything might have just moved in stopped time besides him. Can he move completely, is it just a twitch, was it subconscious, what if he just learned how and is waiting to counter once he gets close, etc.
Dio had no way of knowing for sure, not killing him there cost him, but it wasnt a decision made from stupidity, he just played it safe.
 
no because dio is that cautious after what happened with jonathan, he learned not to **** around with a joestar even by 1 bit. Seeing Jotaro's finger move slightly in his ability to stop time itself would leave you wondering if he can truly move at all and was pretending to be not able to move in his time stop. That's why he went with his knife method later on.
He stopped in case Jotaro actually could move, if he went for the kill there and Jotaro could actually move he would have got torn apart plus he was shocked, the combination of those had time stop run out before he could figure out what to do.
He wasn't being stupid, he was being cautious, once he found out he could move and confirmed the length of time, he went about killing Jotaro in ways without entering Plat's AOE and risking getting killed himself like knives, stop signs, bullets and more.

He'd be absolutely ******* stupid if he DID ignore that, like the first dude ever out of anything might have just moved in stopped time besides him. Can he move completely, is it just a twitch, was it subconscious, what if he just learned how and is waiting to counter once he gets close, etc.
Dio had no way of knowing for sure, not killing him there cost him, but it wasnt a decision made from stupidity, he just played it safe.
^ This!
 
... Diavolo, I think.

Like, remember when he killed Narancia while he was in Mista's body... He didn't have to kill Narancia in such a weird way. He could've killed literally everybody 'side Trish in Mista's body by time skipping and making doughnut holes in their chests. Could be wrong tho.
 
Kira getting cocky and literally shouting "hey it's me the killer, kira".
That shit was wild. His ego was literally his own downfall. The greatest JoJo L

I think Funny could've legit won and accomplished his mission had he not been prideful to take revenge on Johnny
 
... Diavolo, I think.

Like, remember when he killed Narancia while he was in Mista's body... He didn't have to kill Narancia in such a weird way. He could've killed literally everybody 'side Trish in Mista's body by time skipping and making doughnut holes in their chests. Could be wrong tho.
he could spam time skip against anybody and win since the moment where he slaughters them would be skipped, they wouldn't remember it and he'd be unharmed
the perfect assassin
 
... Diavolo, I think.

Like, remember when he killed Narancia while he was in Mista's body... He didn't have to kill Narancia in such a weird way. He could've killed literally everybody 'side Trish in Mista's body by time skipping and making doughnut holes in their chests. Could be wrong tho.
He killed Narancia so he could get rid of Aerosmith, who has a body detector with a city wide radius. If Narancia used it, they would quickly figure out that the boss, himself, isn't actually around despite time skipping, which would let them deduce much quicker that oh shit, he must be already here and then put together that one of them IS the boss.
By killing Narancia they could no longer know the locations of everyone in the city.

Furthermore, King Crimson can't attack while time is skipped (he can't be harmed either) in order to land damage while time is skipped he has to abuse Epitaph, and have a vision of him landing a hit or harming a foe, to which he can skip time and force the vision to play out without revealing himself, as the consequences of that attack are fated to happen no matter what now.
But because of that it has to be something he can reasonably do within a few seconds of real time without being attacked back so he can skip time (Them seeing him isn't a issue as if them seeing gets deleted, they'd never remember it), mowing down Gio, Bruno, Mista, Trish, etc without any of them noticing or attacking back is something that he would never be able to manage without plenty of risk from one of them, so Epitaph would never show such a thing happening, so he wouldn't be able to manage it via time skip. This is also especially bad in this case because Diavolo himself can't move, he could only attack those directly next to him due to being bound in a body that he can't move, ergo, he can strike those 2m away, but if someone like say, Gio or Bruno were beyond 2m, he'd never be able to reach them, he'd corner himself, reveal his location, and he'd be ****** because now he can't do anything and it isn't like he can kill his body he's in because he'd die too, he'd be helpless even with his abilities because the person he's in would just not move or call out their Stand, they even say as much later on, he had to wait for his host to summon a Stand so he could control them and that's part of why he made barely any moves before that point.

Basically, he managed to murk his biggest threat and then just waited till he could figure out how to take out Chariot and his foes or when Trish revealed her Stand so he could take control.
 
he could spam time skip against anybody and win since the moment where he slaughters them would be skipped, they wouldn't remember it and he'd be unharmed
the perfect assassin
He literally couldn't, that isn't how time skip works. It is explicitly stated in JoJoveller, that Diavolo can't actually attack in time skip, the attack itself would be deleted too atop of things just not technically existing.
 
He literally couldn't, that isn't how time skip works. It is explicitly stated in JoJoveller, that Diavolo can't actually attack in time skip, the attack itself would be deleted too atop of things just not technically existing.
I meant that he could just prepare to attack, and then when it's fated to happen with epitaph he just skips it
effectively letting him keep launching attacks while in the safety of erased time
 
I meant that he could just prepare to attack, and then when it's fated to happen with epitaph he just skips it
effectively letting him keep launching attacks while in the safety of erased time
Wouldn't work, he'd have to prepare right before time skip, and given he's surrounded, he'd be seen before time skip activates, alternatively, he'd have to prep in time skip and finish the blow right when time resumes, which he'd still be seen.

He got lucky with Narancia because his host just so happened to be right next to them which let Epitaph play out the vision of something he could do.

He can't mow down a group in time skip without retaliation, it's literally why at the San Giorgio church instead of going to kill Gio, he had to retreat because the whole squad rolled up, he says so himself.
 
Go Beyond couldn't even solo Wonder of U.
Go Beyond, more like go into the trash.
nice pfp chariot


thats based. crazy as to how magenta magenta > Go Fodder Beyond.

oCWAtZk_d.webp


this scan is the best scan in the entire jojo cosmology fr fr.


btw, a question chariot. would cream's void bypass go beyond or not? Both are technically "non existent" so I'm curious as to what would happen. Could it just, go through the go beyond bubble, or not? 🤔
 
btw, a question chariot. would cream's void bypass go beyond or not? Both are technically "non existent" so I'm curious as to what would happen. Could it just, go through the go beyond bubble, or not? 🤔
when two unstoppable forces meet, they just go through eachother, otherwise neither would be very unstoppable
 
thats based. crazy as to how magenta magenta > Go Fodder Beyond.
Can't block what you don't expect, L.
oCWAtZk_d.webp


this scan is the best scan in the entire jojo cosmology fr fr.
If only he had some offensive hax to back up that Invulnerability.
btw, a question chariot. would cream's void bypass go beyond or not? Both are technically "non existent" so I'm curious as to what would happen. Could it just, 🧢 go through the go beyond bubble, or not? 🤔
Tough question, probably.




Another Question is, WOULD 21st Century Boy be able to Deflect the Infinite Spin
 
Can't block what you don't expect, L.

If only he had some offensive hax to back up that Invulnerability.

Tough question, probably.




Another Question is, WOULD 21st Century Boy be able to Deflect the Infinite Spin
why did you edit my message to an cap emoji on the last quote....

"if only he had offensive hax" cool, but I was thinking as to how the spin cant do a single shit to go beyond, not what you were thinking. Then again, can't he just, block go beyond, then throw some explosions and gg? tho idk if that'd work

Can't block what you don't expect, L.


uh, are you referring to what I said and how you dislike seeing what I said, or....? im confused ngl.
 
why did you edit my message to an cap emoji on the last quote....
Dunno how that happened.
It was a Mistake
"if only he had offensive hax" cool
I wanted to say he'd be a good character to make VS match ups with if only he had offensive hax, but he's got only got a 1 time 8-C ability how many tons is it again?
, but I was thinking as to how the spin cant do a single shit to go beyond, not what you were thinking. Then again, can't he just, block go beyond, then throw some explosions and gg? tho idk if that'd work
Soft and Wet scales to 1.125tons, and would be able to defend against it
uh, are you referring to what I said and how you dislike seeing what I said, or....? im confused ngl.
Yes😈
 
Dunno how that happened.
It was a Mistake

I wanted to say he'd be a good character to make VS match ups with if only he had offensive hax, but he's got only got a 1 time 8-C ability how many tons is it again?

Soft and Wet scales to 1.125tons, and would be able to defend against it

Yes😈

why doesn’t little feet ignore durability?

And which stand is the most dangerous in terms of hax if you ignore chariot requiem?

(is it wonder of u?)
 
why doesn’t little feet ignore durability?
Weird question but it's not shown to, and I don't think Size Manipulation would cause durability of an object to be deleted completely albeit due to Surface area it'd be easier to harm
And which stand is the most dangerous in terms of hax if you ignore chariot requiem?

(is it wonder of u?)
WoU is definitely up there

But I'll honorably mention
D4Cs Menger sponges
Green Day, busted
Speed King
Ozone Baby
 
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