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"Fully grown SP (has learned time stop, is after the end of dio, 18 years old Jotaro) [[maximum rage amped jotaro."]]And? In the same guide he calls Star Platinum the strongest, he calls TW the strongest, they both have a **** ton of strongest statements, the only differing part is the exact specifics of when or how it's being said. It's ******* annoying but they both have strongest statements, and they're technically not wrong either, you just have to know what the **** he's talking about when he says that and which iteration he's talking about, which is possible to figure out, but it's a nuisance all the same.
The only reason why TW doesn't have as many statements as Plat is because he shows up way less though, he technically has more statements than Plat if you compare how much appearances they have with how many statements they have. Has more statements per screentime/appearance/etc.
Regardless no, it doesn't exist, and that's the issue they "might" be equal, or they might not, could be stronger but as said, "could" be is a bad word here, we need to index what we know or what's super safe.
We can't use things like that here (Also the very same guide that says Plat is first class says TW is equal to him so either way), we have to know or be like 90% sure.
Fair enough.
He could be weaker, equal or stronger, he's definitely stronger than BTW, but is he above Plat 1? **** if we know, there's zero interactions or ways to figure out the comparability.
The more pissed he gets, the stronger he gets, it's exponential as well. It's stated when he gets angry his power explodes, and upon getting angry his power increased exponentially, and as we see in the manga itself from Jotaro, the more pissed he gets, the better he does, as he more or less says himself when he goes on about how he isn't mad enough yet.
HTW is > BTW, that's pretty obvious, the guide statement just kind of says the better fused he gets with his body and when he became high, it's very likely TW's capabilities increased alongside it (And it's explicitly talking about power and speed, physical specs, not time stop, with that line).
DIO says he got stronger in the manga, but we're talking about TW. You lifting weights and getting stronger doesn't mean your Stand is gonna get buff too. DIO himself bonding with his body, getting stronger himself, etc, doesn't inherently have any reason to effect his Stand, in fact, it's a bit odd it DOES effect his Stand when you think about it, why would he getting stronger effect his spiritual imaginary friend? The only feat he has getting his hand smashed in a clash and then turning around and knocking Plat like 5km, without the guides explaining what was happening with TW and Plat, that whole scene and fight and back and forth of one shots actually comes off as just inconsistent as **** (And that's what most people thought of it for years, it's easy to look back in hindsight and go "oh yeah ok that makes sense" now that we know the details, but without it, that shit just comes off as vague and confusing and even like Araki doesn't know what the **** he's doing).
In that instance I'm pretty sure Dio wasn't expecting Jotaro to counter back, that's why he sprayed blood in his face in the first place as a distraction/to blind him, so he could kick Jotaro's head off while he was caught off guard or reeling from being blinded in that split moment. Thinking on it, what the actual **** was he thinking? Why would blood stop Jotaro? He already knows that Plat and Jotaro have shared vision so blinding Jotaro wouldn't do shit (unless like, DIO never tested that out with his own Stand? so he didn't know? but dio was going out of his ways to test his stand, surely he'd know a basic feature like that, especially with enya guiding him) and it's not like Jotaro is dumb, he knows where Dio is, even if he's blind he could still make an attempt to counter. And even then, yeah he has blood in his eyes, but it's not like he couldn't just suck it up and open his eyes anyway to see, given he LITERALLY does this after the crosscounter and is squinting through the blood to see the aftermath.
Honestly, I just think Araki didn't think this through or we're not supposed to think about it because when you actually sit down and pick it apart, that whole interaction makes zero ******* sense with the characters involved. What Dio should have done is spray blood, stop time, and because Jotaro can move for a few seconds, use that instant of distraction and time stop to GET AWAY from Jotaro instead of kicking, and then just play keep away till the 5 seconds up, and then he has a solid 6-7 seconds himself to walk up and finish him off. he should have played it safe like he was doing early on.
That last one didn't specify pissed Plat, you just said 18yo time stop Jotaro but ok.
live action jojo = L.
the live action Dora’s actually made me laugh as hard as ****
Based Chariot190 moment.I was gonna make live action profiles, they're pretty deep into 9-B and probably MHS.
But then I like, decided not to.
I just thought about somethingDIO says he got stronger in the manga, but we're talking about TW. You lifting weights and getting stronger doesn't mean your Stand is gonna get buff too. DIO himself bonding with his body, getting stronger himself, etc, doesn't inherently have any reason to effect his Stand, in fact, it's a bit odd it DOES effect his Stand when you think about it, why would he getting stronger effect his spiritual imaginary friend? The only feat he has getting his hand smashed in a clash and then turning around and knocking Plat like 5km, without the guides explaining what was happening with TW and Plat, that whole scene and fight and back and forth of one shots actually comes off as just inconsistent as **** (And that's what most people thought of it for years, it's easy to look back in hindsight and go "oh yeah ok that makes sense" now that we know the details, but without it, that shit just comes off as vague and confusing and even like Araki doesn't know what the **** he's doing).
What are you trying to sayI just thought about something
Didnt being apart of the joestar blood, when dio got his stand, affect others to awaken their own stands as well? Theres also with the whole crusader gang having like, more than a month or something, in order to save Holly via killing dio to stop her s u f f e r i n g.
theres also with the d'arby brothers having like the same stand too
just a food for thought of course. but what do you think?
Less dangerous than pretty much any other stand in the series
wins by breathingtoo bad you don’t have a stand ziller
so you automatically lose
wins by breathing
Also
Can anyone help me find out which anime the one referencing jojo in the thumbnail is?
And all the anime and manga in the video that are referencing jojo.
what are their names?
Honestly bad company is one of the worst standswhy Hamon?
it ain’t saving you because my bad company is a bunch of mini @Baken384 riding in helicopters and tanks and by themselves
That isn't true. He was never "enraged" in that fight (At least, not the type of enraged that actually gets accompanied by Josuke's stupid huge rage boost), especially not when he got hurt J̵o̵s̵u̵k̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵a̵c̵t̵u̵a̵l̵l̵y̵ ̵s̵u̵r̵p̵r̵i̵s̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵c̵h̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵i̵n̵ ̵t̵h̵a̵t̵ ̵f̵i̵g̵h̵t̵ h̵e̵ ̵g̵o̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵l̵i̵t̵t̵l̵e̵ ̵m̵a̵d̵ ̵a̵f̵t̵e̵r̵ ̵K̵o̵i̵c̵h̵i̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵h̵i̵t̵ ̵b̵u̵t̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵"̵h̵a̵i̵r̵ ̵i̵n̵s̵u̵l̵t̵e̵d̵"̵ ̵m̵a̵d̵Just a reminder that Bad Company harmed an Enraged Crazy Diamond
I liked the film version cause crazy diamond’s Dora’s sounded ******* hilariousJust a reminder that Bad Company harmed an Enraged Crazy Diamond
Joestar blood can affect spiritual beings (innately), is what im trying to get at. When Chariot said its "odd" I dont necessarily think so, even more when the guidebooks also say that his stand likely got stronger from him getting high.What are you trying to say
Just a reminder that Bad Company harmed an Enraged Crazy Diamond
Yeah, the only times Crazy Diamond is really enraged are when his hair gets insulted and when he beat the living shit out of Kira while severely injured (kinda like what Jotaro did, know that I think about it)That isn't true. He was never "enraged" in that fight (At least, not the type of enraged that actually gets accompanied by Josuke's stupid huge rage boost), especially not when he got hurt J̵o̵s̵u̵k̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵a̵c̵t̵u̵a̵l̵l̵y̵ ̵s̵u̵r̵p̵r̵i̵s̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵c̵h̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵i̵n̵ ̵t̵h̵a̵t̵ ̵f̵i̵g̵h̵t̵ h̵e̵ ̵g̵o̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵l̵i̵t̵t̵l̵e̵ ̵m̵a̵d̵ ̵a̵f̵t̵e̵r̵ ̵K̵o̵i̵c̵h̵i̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵h̵i̵t̵ ̵b̵u̵t̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵"̵h̵a̵i̵r̵ ̵i̵n̵s̵u̵l̵t̵e̵d̵"̵ ̵m̵a̵d̵
He hurt a early serious base CD, which isn't as good as you might think. Even mid part CD could one shot that CD.
waitThat isn't true. He was never "enraged" in that fight (At least, not the type of enraged that actually gets accompanied by Josuke's stupid huge rage boost), especially not when he got hurt J̵o̵s̵u̵k̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵a̵c̵t̵u̵a̵l̵l̵y̵ ̵s̵u̵r̵p̵r̵i̵s̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵c̵h̵i̵l̵l̵ ̵i̵n̵ ̵t̵h̵a̵t̵ ̵f̵i̵g̵h̵t̵ h̵e̵ ̵g̵o̵t̵ ̵a̵ ̵l̵i̵t̵t̵l̵e̵ ̵m̵a̵d̵ ̵a̵f̵t̵e̵r̵ ̵K̵o̵i̵c̵h̵i̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵h̵i̵t̵ ̵b̵u̵t̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵"̵h̵a̵i̵r̵ ̵i̵n̵s̵u̵l̵t̵e̵d̵"̵ ̵m̵a̵d̵
He hurt a early serious base CD, which isn't as good as you might think. Even mid part CD could one shot that CD.
Because it could withstand the recoil of its own high 8-c punches.unrelated note: why would crazy diamond's durability increase with enragement
Yeah but, I’m saying what reason do we have to assume it actually increased dura instead of just saying it has high 8-C duraBecause it could withstand the recoil of its own high 8-c punches.
Because of that reason alone. If Angered CD still had 8-C Durability, it would have broke its own arm on the first punchYeah but, I’m saying what reason do we have to assume it actually increased dura instead of just saying it has high 8-C dura
Because that's how Stands work, rage amps just amp their fighting capabilities, power is the most dominant one, but it's actually case by case, with Pol it was speed, with Jolyne it was everything, Plat was everything too but mostly power. CD is mostly power but also durability because that's how newton's third law works.unrelated note: why would crazy diamond's durability increase with enragement, I mean even comparing it to real life, while adrenaline and getting pissed as hell can make you throw a harder punch, really you're still made of the same stuff
I assume you (Chariot) have already thought about this so I'm mainly just asking about your thought process, not saying it needs to be changed or anything so...
That's extremely obvious.Yeah but, I’m saying what reason do we have to assume it actually increased dura instead of just saying it has high 8-C dura
Because it could withstand the recoil of its own high 8-c punches.
Probably, yeah. Just have the blades form in the heart and move them around.Hey if risotto wasn’t interrogating doppio
could he have won? Like if Nero decided to just kill doppio on the spot, he could have easily done it?
Dont know what you said but you're right, it's stated to be beyond all the laws of the world, but that's because it's spin (as stated in the raw excerpt), spin in JoJo is just inherently broken as ****. JoJoveller says RTZ negs all current abilities though, and it covers Part 7 so in theory, RTZ should be able to RTZ spin, because the only reason why GB>Laws, is because spin is built diff, it's not inherently exclusive to GB.I see, but what if go beyond bubble spin manage to be on range? I heard it's beyond logic and that is why it's immune to wou.
Diavolo is a protagonist now?