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I assumed it was top-down, then left-to-right, and the small ones were weaker.
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable
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That's not Hierophant Green.
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The Class M rain
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Spider stand November Rain
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I don't think he meant to say that the Stands that are in the same section have the same strength/hax level, this is just the composition of the art, he suggests that it is a level of general differentiation between the power and strength of all Stands.
So something like this:
November Rain>Star Platinum>Killer Queen>D4C>Stone Free>Golden Experience>Tusk Act 1
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Yeah, that was my thought. I think he's counting BTD and SHA for KQ.
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Which is kind of strange since he clearly didn't consider Requiem and Love Train but it kind of makes sense since BTD is in this limbo of being a requiem prototype and consequently being the one that makes the least sense.
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Love Train is an assist from a different person and Giorno dropped the arrow.
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November Rain isn't included due to the power aspect. After he says the power thing, he says "also, I included NR because lmao water".
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She didn't though.
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Well yeah but that was because of Johnny and Gyro, if outside interference didn't happen, he'd have just gained the corpse like they were doing whole part. The fact does remains that Love Train was specifically noted to be his ability, not actually the corpse's tho, and that outside help thing was only a temporary caveat.
Not that I think the art piece took that into account, or LT, or even power (im like 90% sure he's just having a chuckle), but still. Not really fair to include BTD which is even harder to pull off (only activates when his back is to the wall) than "what if johnny wasnt up funny's ass for 3 minutes".
Not that I think the art piece took that into account, or LT, or even power (im like 90% sure he's just having a chuckle), but still. Not really fair to include BTD which is even harder to pull off (only activates when his back is to the wall) than "what if johnny wasnt up funny's ass for 3 minutes".
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Yes, but BTD happened and the hypothetical complete corpse absorption didn't.
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So? He still got Love Train, they still establish it was his and not the corpse. And the "hypothetical" isn't a hypothetical, it would have happened.
Saying LT is outside help only, is ignoring the fact it was only outside help due to outside interference.
Like why include BTD? It needs a host, aka "an assist from a different person".
Saying LT is outside help only, is ignoring the fact it was only outside help due to outside interference.
Like why include BTD? It needs a host, aka "an assist from a different person".
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It's literally never happened, why would he include it? This is like if he had The World on there, and someone was going "Did he include The World Over Heaven?"
Or maybe Jotaro beats Love Train.
He can put it in the opponent, can't he?
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Obviously Araki knows it, he's the creator.
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I don't doubt that November Rain won't be busted at the end of the series. In fact, I think Jodio has the chance to become the most powerful character (or second most) if he learns spin and has it incorporated into his stand. We know it already involves gravity, and with how it's shown no resistance from humans on being crushed, add spin to that and it's going to be scuffed.
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Because that's how it works? And what? I literally already said I doubt he was factoring in it, doesn't change what we're talking about.
And even then, so what? Araki already doesnt take into account the corpse having not fully turned yet when talking about it in stuff like guides, or weaknesses. Because that's not an actual weakness to begin with.
TWOH isn't canon. But, if it was, yeah why not? It happened, it doesn't even fit your very own argument.
And he'd be wrong then, just like the numerous other things he's been wrong about. being the author, contrary to popular belief, doesn't make you omniscient about your own work, especially when you admit you forget the line of thought behind what you've done which enables you to read your very own work as a casual reader after awhile.
Doesnt work on anyone with a Stand, so it's useless in every Stand battle ever.
And he can only use it when he hits a breaking point, he can't "just" use it on the fly, he needs to be cornerned and about to be caught.
BTD flatout doesn't work in an actual fight.
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Probably, that's what I've been telling everyone who bitches about NR not being some conceptual duraneg hax god 5 chapters in for the past year. Hell I called the fact it uses gravity from the get go which could lead to spin, and lo and behold
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If I had to be honest, NR gotta be like, top 3 protagonist stands at the beginning of their story
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He's up there.
He's weaker than Plat, CD, GE and S&W early on (AP).
But he has way more range, while weaker than the four mentioned, GE, CD and S&W wouldnt be able to win because they lack the LS to get past the rain and just get faceplanted, while lacking any long range attack options that isn't just "bubble" or "frog", both of which get rain negged too.
NR is way, way slower, but given the range, he just needs to be quick enough to get the rain out before Josuke or whoever can get close enough, which he 100% can given they all only have peak human or superhuman movement.
Stone Free just kinda loses and so does Tusk Act 1, hard really (Tusk act 1 might also have higher power, but a bullet aint getting past the rain, and johnny only has so many shots).
Plat just walks through the rain and manhandles Jodio tho.
For early on tho. Like late CD mogs him, GER go brrr, GB is just gonna void the rain, etc but at this point in the story he's up there, he ties with most, beats 2 low diff, and only Plat (wow!) just neg diffs him.
He's weaker than Plat, CD, GE and S&W early on (AP).
But he has way more range, while weaker than the four mentioned, GE, CD and S&W wouldnt be able to win because they lack the LS to get past the rain and just get faceplanted, while lacking any long range attack options that isn't just "bubble" or "frog", both of which get rain negged too.
NR is way, way slower, but given the range, he just needs to be quick enough to get the rain out before Josuke or whoever can get close enough, which he 100% can given they all only have peak human or superhuman movement.
Stone Free just kinda loses and so does Tusk Act 1, hard really (Tusk act 1 might also have higher power, but a bullet aint getting past the rain, and johnny only has so many shots).
Plat just walks through the rain and manhandles Jodio tho.
For early on tho. Like late CD mogs him, GER go brrr, GB is just gonna void the rain, etc but at this point in the story he's up there, he ties with most, beats 2 low diff, and only Plat (wow!) just neg diffs him.
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Bro trying to get into another goon war with Ban
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Jodio and Dragona's sheer PRECISION is what's really impressed me.
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Jodio has the 2nd best precision of any main Stand atm, and is like top 10 in general.
Plat still better atm (he literally has NR's feat but exponentially better) but yeah. Dragona being able to "heal" via just ******* the wounds is wacky tho, Johnny could do that to via holes.
Plat still better atm (he literally has NR's feat but exponentially better) but yeah. Dragona being able to "heal" via just ******* the wounds is wacky tho, Johnny could do that to via holes.
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Hermit Purple gg
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Especially later on, like any interference can block what he wants a pic of.
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Mostly joking. What interference though?
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Literally anything with a stronger, idk what you'd call it, a signal? Like he couldnt take a picture of Josuke because other stand dudes even being there got in the way.
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That was just a better thing to know about anyway, Hermit Purple was helping him there.
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Speaking of those 2:star platinum and the world that is all folks
The CRT that goes Over Heaven: A Low 2-C + Infinite speed Heaven DIO CRT
So, back from the dead. Decided to go back on the very first character I've revised when I got here: Heaven Ascension DIO. Today I am here to finally fix some stuffs that always were stuck in my head, but was never too bothered to change until now. Attack Potency of Reality Overwrite +...
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Decently high 9-B feat and Class K/M for paco.
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Kinda halfassing it but yeah Class M Paco.
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Baki ass pain tolerance for jodio as well
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Baki is JJBA with fancy muscles instead of fancy powers
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Remember when Jotaro got his shoulder gouged and sliced open and he like, just looked at the fan funny like "hmm that aint normal".
Or when Diavolo vomitted razor blades.
Or when Pol was brutalized, had his eye gouged out, head split ******* open to the point ya can fit a ******* hand in there, his legs, arm, and uh, 80% of his torso including his spine, blown out, thrown off a cliff, onto a pointy rock, surrounded by water, and yet somehow managed to swim to shore (he was thrown off a cliff, shore wasnt anywhere near by), and lived without any medical attention.
Or when Diavolo vomitted razor blades.
Or when Pol was brutalized, had his eye gouged out, head split ******* open to the point ya can fit a ******* hand in there, his legs, arm, and uh, 80% of his torso including his spine, blown out, thrown off a cliff, onto a pointy rock, surrounded by water, and yet somehow managed to swim to shore (he was thrown off a cliff, shore wasnt anywhere near by), and lived without any medical attention.
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How did he not die by blood loss.
