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Class E High 6-A Dune locked in fellas.
Tick tock Deku.
Tick tock Deku.
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable
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Dam. That's getting closer to Allen level
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thats what i was thinking since he has small surface area unlike plat, who got an incon with wham
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Jojo 6251, guide that came out early part 4 (2 weeks before Killer Queens debut, the guide goes up to Ratt. Had an eng release last year). And yeah, it's notable.
But reminder, guides are only supplementary, any foundation should be made from the manga first. Guides have fuckys too. In this case it corroborates the material but ya gotta be careful.
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Depends on the person, the conduit, etc.
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Kilometers.
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Kars vulcano
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yes
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what would a stand called "Heaven's Feel" be like and how would it work?
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idk probably involves mud, worms and jobs a lot tho
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probably something like mahito's cursed technique
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Cancer stand is very weak and slow, but just touching it will give you a myriad of diseases. Very broken.
Also HOLY SHIT this is probably the best precision feat for any JoJo here
Also HOLY SHIT this is probably the best precision feat for any JoJo here
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Not familiar with jjk, mind elaborating?
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by touching someone he can morph and alter your soul
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Star Platinum vs Lovers still
But he's def second for main Stands given this is getting close.
Also, like the Stands cant be picked up by magnetic res waves statement.
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It's 3, translation fucky, and we need to do a Hamon CRT first to get the actual "hamon amount = amount they can stat amp by" out 1st anyway.
Is there a reason why we don’t scale Kars 100x to 400x (I think the accepted value of “several” is 4) times more powerful that Joseph’s Hamon output?
Which, wouldn't actually be an upgrade either way but shrug.
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Gotcha.
Damn, really? Guess I could try to get one of the translators to help out.
Still, I've got my hopes up regarding what it says, considering the anime seems to line up pretty well.
Ouch, yeah, that'd definitely throw a wrench into things.
But hey, I don't think it's impossible we could get Town level Kars in the future! Just probably not now. Thanks for informing me of all this!
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Not wrong, just need to get it standardized, got a scan from jojo mag that helps.
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Man, Jojo doesn't even use the word "concept", and when it does, it uses it in a non-brain-rotted way like rohan yapping about why 3 balls is a good concept for a manga.
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Well, prob does actually, kinda. Fate will happen without time, but, the stuff that was fated to happen get purged, that's kinda King Crimson's purpose, enabling Diavolo to avoid fate by deleting bad fuckys that'd happen to him.
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i was reffering to diavolo, yeah. long story short, dude was saying that king crimson doesnt erase time in literal sense, arguing that its only perception erasure, and that polnareff's blood trick would need time to happen, epitaph not making sense, as future needs time to happen aswell, i argued that its pure semantics, not only is fate absolute and will happen regardless of anything (with few stands being an exception, of course), it is multiple times refered to as literal time erasure, whether its author or other knowledgable and credible characters over the past 20 years. diavolo interacting with stuff in erased time is pretty weird, yeah, but lets just ignore all the raws from databooks about fate and epitaph showing the undeniable future, that only diavolo within erased time can evade. said person also believed that ger's feats put him below top 5 in verse, so i would take it with a grain of salt. anyways, yall planning on keeping mih at infinite speed ?
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Yea, yeah, the usual. Wyatt doing a blog right now for it being actual time delete,
Diavolo also never interacts with stuff in timeskip, an actual stated rule.
GER literally has, on screen, the 2nd best range feat, arguably the best speed feat and AP scaling, and the best sustain feat,
MiH infinite but only at peak accel.
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yeah, its needed actually, people still use the same old shitty argument from 2021, is there anything else being cooked rn anyways ? some jojo profiles could use some overhauls, im down if anyone needs help w/ scans or something. as for mih, i dont think he reaches inf speed at all, i'll post up the arguments, i think i've even said this in some convo here the other time. if its anything half decent, then crt could be made :
1) Made in Heaven operates on the Big Crunch theory. The Big Crunch is a hypothetical scenario for the ultimate fate of the universe, in which the expansion of the universe eventually reverses and the universe recollapses, ultimately causing the cosmic scale factor to reach zero, an event potentially followed by a reformation of the universe starting with another Big Bang. This is exactly what was shown in both the anime and the manga. I don’t think I need to explain why infinite time isn’t needed for this.
2) Reaching infinity by accelerating is not possible according to the simple principle of "infinity" since a growing finite number will always be finite.
3) It was never stated in the anime nor the manga that Made in Heaven has infinite speed. Rather, the following was stated: Accelerating time to infinity “Accelerating time to infinity" can easily just refer to a theoretical concept where time is being manipulated or altered in a way that it appears to speed up infinitely. This interpretation suggests the idea of time moving at an ever-increasing pace, possibly beyond comprehension. Or it can be interperted as accelerating time until the singularity. Singularity is a point of infinite density, therefore he’d be accelerating time to infinity (aka the singularity).
4) In an interview with Hirohiko Araki titled “Stone Ocean Bunko Vol. 11” from February 2009., Araki states the following: "Time itself was getting faster and faster and outpacing human senses, approaching infinity itself, or at least as close to infinity as possible". So even Araki himself verbatim stated that Made in Heaven just accelerates time up to a REALLY fast point rather than infinity itself. This also explains his Stand stats. It is a methaporical way of saying that he accelerates time “as close to infinity as possible”.
not that it changes much in the inverse scaling, everything would remain pretty much the same to my knowledge, ger would still have inf speed for rtz, its just that pucci would lose the symbolic infinite speed, which i dont think he has.
1) Made in Heaven operates on the Big Crunch theory. The Big Crunch is a hypothetical scenario for the ultimate fate of the universe, in which the expansion of the universe eventually reverses and the universe recollapses, ultimately causing the cosmic scale factor to reach zero, an event potentially followed by a reformation of the universe starting with another Big Bang. This is exactly what was shown in both the anime and the manga. I don’t think I need to explain why infinite time isn’t needed for this.
2) Reaching infinity by accelerating is not possible according to the simple principle of "infinity" since a growing finite number will always be finite.
3) It was never stated in the anime nor the manga that Made in Heaven has infinite speed. Rather, the following was stated: Accelerating time to infinity “Accelerating time to infinity" can easily just refer to a theoretical concept where time is being manipulated or altered in a way that it appears to speed up infinitely. This interpretation suggests the idea of time moving at an ever-increasing pace, possibly beyond comprehension. Or it can be interperted as accelerating time until the singularity. Singularity is a point of infinite density, therefore he’d be accelerating time to infinity (aka the singularity).
4) In an interview with Hirohiko Araki titled “Stone Ocean Bunko Vol. 11” from February 2009., Araki states the following: "Time itself was getting faster and faster and outpacing human senses, approaching infinity itself, or at least as close to infinity as possible". So even Araki himself verbatim stated that Made in Heaven just accelerates time up to a REALLY fast point rather than infinity itself. This also explains his Stand stats. It is a methaporical way of saying that he accelerates time “as close to infinity as possible”.
not that it changes much in the inverse scaling, everything would remain pretty much the same to my knowledge, ger would still have inf speed for rtz, its just that pucci would lose the symbolic infinite speed, which i dont think he has.
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Vague bullet timer feat?
We also see Howler himself, seems like we may have the main villain in our sights already. He has a stand of course, and so does Agent Bobby Jean, with the gun stand [Glory Days], sick name in all honesty.
We also see Howler himself, seems like we may have the main villain in our sights already. He has a stand of course, and so does Agent Bobby Jean, with the gun stand [Glory Days], sick name in all honesty.
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Araki what the heeeell
jojo-news.com
Hirohiko Araki's First Public Art Piece "The Fountain Boy" Unveiled
Hirohiko Araki discusses his first public art piece at Osaka Station, The Fountain Boy, drawn alongside JoJo Stands ranked by their power.
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Did he say they're in order of power or is that a mistranslation of something? If so, the fact that November Rain's at the top...Araki what the heeeell
Hirohiko Araki's First Public Art Piece "The Fountain Boy" Unveiled
Hirohiko Araki discusses his first public art piece at Osaka Station, The Fountain Boy, drawn alongside JoJo Stands ranked by their power.
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Hell if I know, I was spending most of my time laughing my guts out
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He says order of strength and power and laughs. But then says "also I included NR due to water fuckery". NR being included isn't due to power but due to the fountain motiff.
But if we take that at face value. Plat =KQ (which we know is wrong, but he says strength AND power, so not just pure stats), and then SF = GE. And D4C = Act 1.
Which uh, we know is wrong.
Might have just meant loosely, or as a joke given he laughs. Even then we wouldn't take this as legit, bro does yap a lot.
But if we take that at face value. Plat =KQ (which we know is wrong, but he says strength AND power, so not just pure stats), and then SF = GE. And D4C = Act 1.
Which uh, we know is wrong.
Might have just meant loosely, or as a joke given he laughs. Even then we wouldn't take this as legit, bro does yap a lot.
