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I mean, did anyone else know how to do that? The part 3 gang was the most knowledgable in their uses of a stand. Part 4 was just arrow boys, and part 5 was gang members. Unlike the mainly natural stand users of p3.
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Eh.. My point is literally the idea of no one taking into consideration ghosts when saying "X can only hit X" in a world of Y. So what gives.DragonEmperor23 said:I mean, did anyone else know how to do that?
TriforcePower1 said:btw, help https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2741777 </div>
This accomplishes nothing as it's not Ghosts not being able to do that, just not having the chanse. It's not evidence, it's just "this didn't happen", how many more times will it still be used as a point?Paul Frank said:and ghosts have not been shown to see or affect stands without having a stand themselves besides possibly the old man black sabbath grabbed (that was likely because of how the stand works or just araki forgot syndrome)
Soo.... What's your argument exactly?Eficiente said:My position here is more than clear, "because they havent had a chance to be shown to affect stands" isn't my reason, I pointed out the redundancy of saying that they didn't affect Stands.
Black Sabbath pulls out people's souls, and when it did the same thing to a stand user, it pulled out their stand instead.TriforcePower1 said:being able to affect Souls =/= Being able to affect Stands
No, Joseph and Avdol came up with Stand rules back in Part 3, calling them Stand rules. No one modify them after that, beyond very minor stuff.DragonEmperor23 said:You mean earlier?
Yeah, and as I've said the same exact thing happens in Part 5 with Black Sabbath.Antoniofer said:Difference is that ghosts are the spirit of dead people, meanwhile Stands are manifestation of the user spirit, not quite the literal soul; but affecting the soul/spirit of the user will naturally affect the Stands.
No, it was the tree/his leaves that had a Stand. Currently, no inanimate object possesses a stand.DragonEmperor23 said:There's literally a street with one in part 8.
The shadow interaction and soul shenanigans are seperate, yes. That doesn't effect my point, though.TriforcePower1 said:@Dargoo Black Sabbath's ability is to grab and drag out someone's shadow. The soul and stand thing is secondary.
I agree as well; hence, let treat them like Non-Corporeal/immaterial entities as listed on their profiles. There is little to no point of arguing of what they are made of because they are made it would so fictional immaterial matter in any case that we treat as Non-Corporeal in any case. Non-Physical Interaction with the interaction feats will bypass their Non-Corporeal/immaterial anyway and with verse equalizatio this interactions problem is solved.TriforcePower1 said:@Dargoo I agree that Stands and Souls are somewhat related, but I disagree on them being the same thing.