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John Egbert vs Sans

LoyalservantofInti said:
He's only planetary whereas Sans beat a multiversal
That was because of how effective KR was on Chara. Has john killed up to 207 people because that's what it would take for KR to be multiversal.
 
Even ignoring John's immortality, its probably a stomp in John's favor. I'm not sure how Sans can dodge an attack coming from something already touching him on pretty much all sides of him (the air). I'm not sure if John killed anyone, since I never read Homestuck and kill count isn't really stated on pages, but he doesn't seem evil, so KR is probably irrelevant, leaving Sans with lots of chip damage.
 
DerpCity said:
Even ignoring John's immortality, its probably a stomp in John's favor. I'm not sure how Sans can dodge an attack coming from something already touching him in all directions. I'm not sure if John killed anyone, since I never read Homestuck and kill count isn't really stated on pages, so KR is probably irrelevant, leaving Sans with lots of chip damage.
Well, John killed a several monsters in Cascade
 
Ultima Reality said:
DerpCity said:
Even ignoring John's immortality, its probably a stomp in John's favor. I'm not sure how Sans can dodge an attack coming from something already touching him in all directions. I'm not sure if John killed anyone, since I never read Homestuck and kill count isn't really stated on pages, so KR is probably irrelevant, leaving Sans with lots of chip damage.
Well, John killed a several monsters in Cascade

Well, yeah, but even then, he would only be in single digits LV. Maybe 11 or 12. And then again, the imps and other enemies were computer generated, as supposed to, say, Chara, who killed actual living beings (in the context of the game)
 
Well, John killed a several monsters in Cascade
Well, yeah, but even then, he would only be in single digits LV. Maybe 11 or 12. And then again, the imps and other enemies were computer generated, as supposed to, say, Chara, who killed actual living beings (in the context of the game)

But saying computer generated enemies don't count as much goes against the argument that you made in this thread: [[1]]
 
@The Wright Way

Good point. Although... Even then, Egbert would only have the LV from the enemies. And then maybe even negative, because of the retconned timeline saving everyone who wasn't dead before Game Over.

Now, you only save one monster from death in UT, so the negative is kinda my own personal headcanon. However, you don't have LV when you saave Monster Kid, and maybe LV 1 is the bottom of the ladder, so unless you have a pickaaxe [dataminer, geddit?] you aren't getting anywhere under LV 1.
 
bump

EDIT: I wanna see the end of this

EDIT 2: sorry if I'm being an idiot and only the op can bump threads. I've been a lurker and don't really know too much about how these things work.
 
john wins: wind is near impossible to stop with rounded bones, plus with WoZ he could break those bones like they were Styrofoam. KR is near-irrelevant if you can't hit your opponent, as shown by Chara taking no KR damage if Sans lands no attacks. Eventually, Sans will slip up, allowing John to get the upper hand, landing the finishing blow. Sure, Gaster Blasters can pose a problem maybe the first time, but Sans only has so many ways he can use them, before John gets the idea and uses them as an advantage. His only chance is to catch John by surprise, hit him with a well placed bone when his back is turned. But in all other cases, John wins through teleport-spam wind majyyks.
 
Don't we had a rule which we shouldn't bump morre than a month old threads?

but just saying KARMA don't need kill count
 
I vote for John, has more hax and he will not be affected by karma.
 
Therefir said:
I vote for John, has more hax and he will not be affected by karma.
Karma is just considered soul poison now. Kill count and wether a person is good or evil doesn't matter.
 
Karma is just considered soul poison now. Kill count and wether a person is good or evil doesn't matter.

Oh really? well still he has more hax.
 
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