Jiren's profile still needs some work...

[C2_of_Omegon]

Sorry for bothering everyone with another DBS thread but I've got some stuff to bring to the table. Don't worry, no up or downgrades here. There's a few things up with Jiren's profile that need some touching up.

First off, Jiren needs an Notable Attacks/Techniques section. The guy does have some notable attacks with unique qualities that we should list. He's also the second most visited character profile in Tier 2, and the 3rd most visited page in all of Dragon Ball, behind DBS Goku and the actual verse! Dragon Ball wikia has a list of them and their descriptions, and I would personally be willing to write out new and condensed descriptions and submit them here before putting them on the profile, so that they can be reviewed. Naturally, I will only use the ones Jiren has demonstrated in the anime and not any games.

Second, Jiren's noted to have Mid-Low Regen. IIRC, that was from when he fought Hit. Specifically when Hit first struck Jiren with his Cage of Time. This didn't actually damage Jiren, it simply knocked him back and intiated Cage of Time. While there was hole, the very moment it went back in place, the Cage activated. So really, I don't see this as Regen. It's just seems to be the byproduct of how Hit's technique worked. With that reasoning, I say we remove Regen from his profile entirely.

Third, Jiren's Precog. His major moment of it was predicting the flight paths of the Katchi-Katchin and deducing that he didn't even need to move as they wouldn't hit him. Beyond this, we never see any other form of Precog nor is more ever elborated upon. Given that, I say we say Jiren has 'Limited Precognition (He is able to predict the flight paths of projectiles)' or something to that effect.

Fourth, Jiren may have displayed Attack Reflection. During Jiren's fight with MUI Goku, after he broke his limit, he did something interesting. Goku fired a ki blast at Jiren, only for Jiren to meet it with seemingly a barrier that stopped the blast and then sent it right back at Goku.

With that, there's all that I'm proposing for Jiren. Nothing crazy or radical. Honestly, the techniques are going to be the hardest thing really.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

As for Jiren's Technique Section, here's what I've come out with:

Power Impact: Jiren fires a small energy blast at an opponent. Once the blast impacts, it expands greatly and "grabs" the target. It then travels some distance away before detonating.

Power Impact Orb Version: Jiren wraps his opponent in energy, forming an orb of power around and trapping them. It detonates shortly, afterward.

Energy Punches: Jiren gathers energy into fists, increasing the power of his attacks.

Energy Barrier: The raw power and intensity of Jiren's ki is enough to ward off weak attacks without effort. At higher levels of power, the barrier easily repel multiple energy attacks at once. It can also block physical attacks.

Invisible Eye Blast: An a powerful shockwave attack released from the eyes. Jiren is capable of using it to deflect attacks.

Invisible Strikes: Jiren lands a series of blows so fast, it appears like he isn't even moving.

 

[Antvasima]

You should ask the staff members listed under Dragon Ball in the Knowledgeable Members List to comment here.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I can agree with all of the things in the OP, but Jiren shouldn't have precog at all. It's purely fan speculation (it always was, tbh).

 

[Dzhindzholia]

"Invisible Strikes: Jiren lands a series of blows so fast, it appears like he isn't even moving. "

Isn't that just punching really fast?

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

@Dzhindholia

Pretty much. But it is, suprisingly enough, an actual technique of his.

IMHO, I find it redundant and am considering not even adding it, tbh.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

"Energy Punches: Jiren gathers energy into fists, increasing the power of his attacks. "

I think it is just statistic amplification.I dont think Jiren can do it only with his fists.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

@Dzhindholia

Except Jiren primariliy does it with with his fists, it's a matter of his fighting style. He used such a blow on Vegeta and countered one of Goku's Kamehamehas with an energized upper cut before blowing it away with a blast of his own. He also seemingly used a combination of this and an energy barrier to reflect a ki blast from MUI Goku.

Also, if we take the logic of saying it's just a Stat Amp, then we may as well not note attacks like the Kamehameha, which is just a form of Energy Projection or the Kaio-ken which is also a Stat Amp.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Kamehameha isn't stat amp,KK is.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

"Invisible Eye Blast: An a powerful shockwave attack released from the eyes. Jiren is capable of using it to deflect attacks."

Just call this "Jiren's glare".

All this abilities are fine except precog.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

As long as One Glare Ma stays, I am happy. I really don't understand that precog.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Kamehameha isn't stat amp,KK is.

Umm...I never said that the Kamehameha was a Stat Amp. My point was that you break down a lot of DB techniques to these highly basic abilities. I was simply using the Kamehameha as an example.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

"Also, if we take the logic of saying it's just a Stat Amp, then we may as well not note attacks like the Kamehameha, which is just a form of Energy Projection or the Kaio-ken which is also a Stat Amp."

My bad,i missed "not".I guess you are right about Jiren's Energy Punch.He didn't perform them with his legs,so,yeah.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

So, to sum it up the changes to Jiren's profile:

- Regen and Precog removed.

- Attack Reflection added

- Power Impact, Power Impact Orb Version, Energy Punches, Energy Barrier, and Invisible Eye Blast for Jiren's Notable Attacks/Techniques section.

If it all sounds good and checks out, then all I need is for someone to unlock the profile to implement the changes.

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

So, to sum it up the changes to Jiren's profile:
- Regen and Precog removed.

- Attack Reflection added

- Power Impact, Power Impact Orb Version, Energy Punches, Energy Barrier, and Invisible Eye Blast for Jiren's Notable Attacks/Techniques section.

If it all sounds good and checks out, then all I need is for someone to unlock the profile to implement the changes.

Wait why remove regen and precog I mean precog honestly I get but he does have some form of regen

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

@Grimreaperofjustice

When has Jiren displayed Regen?

 

[Reppuzan]

@TheC2

The justifications was probably when he recovered from having his chest caved in by Hit.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

@Repp

Well, I already covered that in the OP. While there was a crater/hole in Jiren's chest, the very moment it filled back in Hit's Cage of Time activated.

So really, we can interept that as either Jiren having Regen or the hole is a byproduct of Hit's technique. Personally, I believe the latter.

The timing would be way too convient for the very moment Jiren heals that Hit's technique would activate. Not to mention that no one ever makes comment or claim, that Jiren can heal minor wounds. Belmod and Khai were all to happy to brag of Jiren's capabilities to paint him up as unbeatable.

 

[Grimreaperofjustice]

@Grimreaperofjustice
When has Jiren displayed Regen?

Well yeah but Im just thinking he did recover and looked like that attack hurt like hell before his little chest hole popped back but thats just me

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

So, if there's nothing else. Can anyone get a mod to unlock Jiren's profile? I can do the edits in a few minutes.

 

[Reppuzan]

@C2

I've unlocked it.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

@Repp

Cool. Be done in a few.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

And done. The Page can locked again. Thank you all for your time.

 

[Antvasima]

So should we close this thread now?

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Feel free.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.