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The Battle of the Two Biggest Pervert's in Anime.
Jiraiya
Vs.
Roshi
Win Via KO or Death.
Jiraiya
Vs.
Roshi
Win Via KO or Death.
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Jiraiya(Naruto/Shippuden) Vs. Muten Roshi(Dragon Ball/Z/Super)
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didnt roshi one-shot the moon?
i think i take the DB-char ^_^
i think i take the DB-char ^_^
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They're equal in all stats going by profiles but Jiraiya has the far better and vast Arsenal.
Jiraiya
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Jiraiya
the max kamehameha would obliterate Jiraiya if it connects, but from all the times we've seen roshi using it it seems to require quite a bit of prep time and roshi to stand in 1 spot for a while.
it wouldn't work against an actual smart and fast opponent. he might have been able to hit the mindless oozaru Goku with it (instead of the moon, if he wanted to) but i doubt he'd ever be able to hit regular Goku with that, in that fight.
the max kamehameha would obliterate Jiraiya if it connects, but from all the times we've seen roshi using it it seems to require quite a bit of prep time and roshi to stand in 1 spot for a while.
it wouldn't work against an actual smart and fast opponent. he might have been able to hit the mindless oozaru Goku with it (instead of the moon, if he wanted to) but i doubt he'd ever be able to hit regular Goku with that, in that fight.
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Jiraiya wins
Master roshi has impressive DC which is more than JIRAIYA but let's not make that a final judgment master roshi needs time to build up ki in order to use his full power attack also he gets one chance at doing it before it zaps away his entire power jiraiya been in wars and action too the story than roshi Jiraiya techniques are just too much for him as well
Master roshi has impressive DC which is more than JIRAIYA but let's not make that a final judgment master roshi needs time to build up ki in order to use his full power attack also he gets one chance at doing it before it zaps away his entire power jiraiya been in wars and action too the story than roshi Jiraiya techniques are just too much for him as well
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Jiraiya.
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I'm gonna go with Roshi due to his immortality.
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Well, even if it isn't saying much, didn't Roshi take on Frieza's men and beat them in Revival of F? I know Frieza's mean aren't that impressive but they still ae supposed Elite fighters.
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Definitely Roshi
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It's regarded as an outlier apparently.Naruto The Bujin said:
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Roshi sort of explained how he was able to beat Frieza's men. He was actually telling Krillin, "You have seen so many great fighters, including Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Cell, Buu, and Beerus. These punches should seem too slow for you." I think this also applies to him as well because he's seen them too.
I'm not sure if this is enough, or if it even does explain how Roshi got so powerful.
I'm not sure if this is enough, or if it even does explain how Roshi got so powerful.
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Most of Frieza's men were fodder except for Shisami and Tagoma. Some of them got killed by a giant fish. So beating them doesn't seem so impressive.
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I'm pretty sure they were stronger than 7-B tho. They're still "Elites"
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I can't really imagine dozens of guys much stronger than city busters losing to a giant fish. It was even stated they got a lot weaker since Frieza died.
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Wait they lost to fish LOL
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I do remember that, maybe I just overestimated Frieza's men. But back to topic, we could use the Master Roshi from the original Dragonball, he did blow up the moon and fought against strong martial artists which included Kid Goku. He also displayed great speed, strength and intelligence.
Now for Jiraiya, he can use Rasengan, Summoning, Fire Style Techniques and Sage Mode. Master Roshi's attacks are even deadlier than Jiraiya's and cause massive amounts of damage, he also isn't slow by any means at all, in fact he is quite fast. But Jiraiya has versatility in Techniques.
In terms of character development and significance, Jiraiya had more impact in the end. He was Naruto's teacher and his death helped Naruto develop, though personally I think the series couldn't maintain it's quality after Pain or even some earlier arcs.
Master Roshi did have some impact earlier, even during the King Piccolo saga but in Dragonball Z, his role diminished and death was no longer a consequence.
There's really no way to say who would win without offending both series' fans.
Now for Jiraiya, he can use Rasengan, Summoning, Fire Style Techniques and Sage Mode. Master Roshi's attacks are even deadlier than Jiraiya's and cause massive amounts of damage, he also isn't slow by any means at all, in fact he is quite fast. But Jiraiya has versatility in Techniques.
In terms of character development and significance, Jiraiya had more impact in the end. He was Naruto's teacher and his death helped Naruto develop, though personally I think the series couldn't maintain it's quality after Pain or even some earlier arcs.
Master Roshi did have some impact earlier, even during the King Piccolo saga but in Dragonball Z, his role diminished and death was no longer a consequence.
There's really no way to say who would win without offending both series' fans.
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Toriyama say than Roshi has always the power to beat the Frieza Soldier (they are at least comparable to Raditz or below)
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Roshi easily. Able to beat up Frieza's men in ROF and still has trump card of that moon busting Kamehameha if it comes down to one final attack. Faster, stronger and more durable.
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Roshi's Moon busting is an outlier, and Frieza's men were fodder. There is no evidence they are comparable to Raditz.
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Lol I think Roshi wins still via what he can do. Jiraiya is just faster.
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Didn't Jiraiya lose to a city+ level character (Pain)? Roshi.
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That he did, MRegulator. Though to be fair, he was taking on like 6 of the paths of Pain.TheMightyRegulator said:
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Okay. I'm convinced. Jiraiya due to moon bust being outlier and Frieza soldiers < Raditz.
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Hm...
Touche, Crisis. Touche.
Touche, Crisis. Touche.
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Outlier?
Again, Toriyama said that he was always than powerful
He even gave an indirect than he was close to Krillin
jnetworkonline.com/2015/04/23/master-roshi-is-now-unbelievably-powerful-viewers-of-dragon-ball-resurrection-of-f-are-blown-away-creator-of-the-dragon-ball-series-toriyama-akira-gives/
Again, Toriyama said that he was always than powerful
He even gave an indirect than he was close to Krillin
jnetworkonline.com/2015/04/23/master-roshi-is-now-unbelievably-powerful-viewers-of-dragon-ball-resurrection-of-f-are-blown-away-creator-of-the-dragon-ball-series-toriyama-akira-gives/
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The link seems legit, but that's my opinion. What would his tier be if it truly is legit?KaenDragneel123 said:
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It's a translation of a japanese magazine about a interview to Toriyama
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@CrossverseCrisis
What do you think? Is this enough for an upgrade?
What do you think? Is this enough for an upgrade?
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Powerhouse and Damage based observation --> Roshi
Skill Set and Arsenal based Observation -> Jiraiya
We didnt saw Jiraiya's all jutsus .. His final fight aint allow it. But I Think Potentialy and due to near limitless sage stamina (thanks to elder toads) Jiraiya can take this match
Skill Set and Arsenal based Observation -> Jiraiya
We didnt saw Jiraiya's all jutsus .. His final fight aint allow it. But I Think Potentialy and due to near limitless sage stamina (thanks to elder toads) Jiraiya can take this match
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Question, Why exactly is Jiraiya Small City level based of the kages when most of the kages and the other Sannin are only town level?
Also seeing as they can literally grow minions who are stronger than Raditz out of the ground it wouldn't be unreasonable to asume the fodders are close to him.
Either way since Jiraiya is only town level with durability I going to say this win goes to Roshi
Also seeing as they can literally grow minions who are stronger than Raditz out of the ground it wouldn't be unreasonable to asume the fodders are close to him.
Either way since Jiraiya is only town level with durability I going to say this win goes to Roshi
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