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Jin Mori vs Chara
- Thread starter Thermor
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This might be bottom 10 match ups of all time
SnakesCity
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Brah close this stomp
Qurbonboev
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I am not going to make it long. Does he resists info 2 EE, and what is his first move?
sunshine
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Bro this is a Low COMPLEX multi, 5d minimum vs Low Multi match up
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pleading yakub to ask chara to spare his verse (chara is unfortunately nuking it)
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- Thread starter
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Mori's law and CM1 hax can do the job.
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Does Jin's Ridiculous multipliers apply to his speed key?
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If your question is if his multipliers apply to his speed then yes they do
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The first time he ever used his nultipliers was to blitz people
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Can they even interact with each other properly? Chara has BDE and NEP while Mori has aca4.
If they do what does Chara do against high godly regen and resurrection? Or passive mind hax? Or layered absorption? Or Mori being 250,000x faster than her? Or the huge bag of reality manip hax?
This looks like either an incon or a stomp (for whichever side can actually take the other down)
If they do what does Chara do against high godly regen and resurrection? Or passive mind hax? Or layered absorption? Or Mori being 250,000x faster than her? Or the huge bag of reality manip hax?
This looks like either an incon or a stomp (for whichever side can actually take the other down)
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Like aca4 ever does something in versus matchup
Any way for your question,Chara has aca1 negation which also works as L1c bfr (true reset)
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This isn't a starting move btw (its a L1c info2 nuke)Like aca4 ever does something in versus matchup
Any way for your question,Chara has aca1 negation which also works as L1c bfr (true reset)
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Aca4 is very case specific.Like aca4 ever does something in versus matchup
In Mori's case he's said to be free from the chain of cause and effect as well as shown to exist beyond time so I'd say it should make him pretty hard to affect.
Well that has nothing to do with aca4 so it's fine.
Tho I think the bigger question is if Mori can interact with NEP and BDE1. I genuinely have no idea what's necessary to do so lmao
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Chara lacks concept/law aspect for NEP so Mori can effect it.
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Uhh so what stops Mori from blitzing with concept hax? She also doesn't have mind NEP now that I'm looking at it so how is she getting past layered passive mind shenanigans?
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Not normally,only via hax
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Chara is abstract emotion,can mind hax even affect her?
Qurbonboev
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Acausality 4 provides nothing without feats. And Jin profiles only says about sum being free from karmic cycle and ties from the world(which without further elaborations doesn't give anything good).
Infohax 2 EE. Passives don't work on pips with immeasurable speed.
"250000x faster than them?". Is it through multipliers? So needs activation first?
Either way, anything he does is either passive(won't work) or needs activation(at best needs thoughts). And first Chara move is infohax 2 EE.
So best things Mori can hope for is incon
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No idea.
I'm just going off the fact that she lacks mind nonexistence or mind manip immunity on the profile
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Also chara first move would be a L1c info2 erasure nuke which would obviously kill nore and force him to regenerate but chara eould probably keep spaming the nuke over and over again,maybe she tires out and uses a true reset but thats maybe since Chara is literally the living embodyment of blood lust (btw if you ask,yes she has used true reset on screen so she could use one)
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If my memory isn't lying to me,Mori needs to press his presure points to activate his multipliers
Delusionaltx2
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so does mori have resistence to info nuke or nah?
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I went over this in a different comment. Mori's aca makes him impossible to even as little as hold a relationship with for those outside of Nirvana as his karmic/causal ties are cut.
I can go grab the scans if you want me to but given this is 100% going to be a stomp or incon either way, I feel like it's ultimately meaningless.
Mori has IM2 high godly and even resistance to IM2 high godly regen negation from Satan.
They work, they can just be dodged. Which isn't happening with Mori's passive quarter million times speed amp
It's in the profile in his miracle key. He replicates the effects of a 250,000x limit removal multiplier through mastery over his body.
Actually feels like the opposite. Either Mori rofl-stomps with hax or can't interact with her leading to an incon. Unless I'm missing something like a 5D undodgeable BFR from Chara (in which case my bad, I'm unfamiliar with the character)
Either way, ass (like all haxlord matches).
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Mori resists IM2 (also outregens).
No idea if IM2 EE requires a separate resistance from just standard IM2 ngl.
That is true for jeabongchim. But Mori isn't using jeabongchim here, he's achieving their effects through sheer mastery over his body.
Check his miracle key for this.
Delusionaltx2
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Since info EE is just EE on an info level if you have resistance to IM2 and EE ur straight
in moris case he seems to have both of these so he's fine
Delusionaltx2
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More importantly how's mori suppose to deal with NEP?
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Alr lil' people, some things about Mori are just mad sus.
Also how does the x250'000 multiplier work? Is it thought-based? Is it something he leads with from the get-go?
Why does he have 2 speed ratings? Is Immeasurable just with a specific technique? Speed isn't equalized here, so this is important.
Also how does the x250'000 multiplier work? Is it thought-based? Is it something he leads with from the get-go?
Chara's stuff is both AP and hax though. But even then, Chara can just use the TRUE RESET to BFR him as that affects the entire cosmology, not just him.
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Cm hax
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Exactly what I asked and why my first thought was incon.
Apparently Chara still has a concept and a mind both of which Mori can interact with and stomp
Delusionaltx2
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oh yeah they don't have the 2nd an 3rd aspect
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His avatars are mftl+ while his true self (which exist beyond the multuverse) is immesurable
Delusionaltx2
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yeah interacting with their mind and concept is fair game
what about the acasuality negation though?
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This still doesn't answer the question of whether he starts with that multiplier amp or not.
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Honestly I just forgot to delete the old speed rating when applying the new one.
Originally we had the key separate into Mori's avatars that exist in the real world (the mftl+) and his true self (the immeasurable). However we no longer have that and the mftl+ remained. (hell even the 10 sextillion isn't accurate, it's 190 nonillion rn)
Thought based starting from miracle key onwards.
I don’t see BFR on her profile, what exactly is it and how does it work?
SnakesCity
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TRUUUUUUUUUUUUE
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As far as I'm understanding the profile, Chara only negates aca1. That doesn't affect Mori's aca4 nor any of Mori's abilities.
Aca1 is just paradox immunity anyway. Not super threatening, just protects you from time travel hax (which tbf is useful against Mori)
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Again, does he lead with that as first move?
TRUE RESET is basically a Time Hax/Reality Warping thing that restores the Game World to its prime state and brings everyone to their location at the beginning of the game in a new timeline. Basically Mori would end up back to whatever place he was at that point of the timeline if it's used.
