Ji Ning vs Aatrox

[WeeklyBattles]

Outliving a universe isn't a durability feat...

Its not outliving the universe, its surviving the universe as a whole being destroyed. Aatrox plans to eventually kill Nagakabouros, which is literally the entire universe as a single entity, and destroy the entire universe as a result and the devs confirmed that he would still survive even if he did that

 

[Planck69]

Would it even matter if he did? Unless it's at the epicenter, surviving a 3-A explosion would yield far, far lower than that tier.

Then again, it doesn't change much here.

 

[XDragnoir]

Its not outliving the universe, its surviving the universe as a whole being destroyed.

That's not what the profile implies, it clearly says "Darkin are incapable of dying as their concept no longer exists, and as a result they will survive even after the universe ends"

Nothing about destruction, and nothing about durability.

Aatrox plans to eventually kill Nagakabouros, which is literally the entire universe as a single entity, and destroy the entire universe as a result and the devs confirmed that he would still survive even if he did that

Surviving after the universe ends doesn't give L2C dura, the profile literally says that it would be a result of death not applying to him in the first place and the devs more than anyone would know about his inability to die.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

How is surviving or outliving universe a skill feat?

 

[XDragnoir]

How is surviving or outliving universe a skill feat?

We weren't talking about skill in that part

 

[Planck69]

How is surviving or outliving universe a skill feat?

Not a skill feat but I asked that since Ji Ning can oneshot the 4-B value that Aatrox scales to, what was stopping him from doing that to the sword? Hence the current discussion.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I schnee

 

[XDragnoir]

Curious if Aatrox's ability to jut spawn chains on his opponent that restrict their movement would do anything

Are you talking about his in-game skill or does he use them in a different way in-lore? Cause in-game you can easily dodge them.

Aatrox is more skilled and it seems pretty clear to me

Yasuo's precision feat that Aatrox scales above is better than Ning's precision feats and that's about it, they're really even in pretty much everything else to the point skill stomping wouldn't be possible at all.

Uh I never said anything about the sword? I think sword needs a limited mind hax btw. Aatrox landing a hit is still very much possible via the skill difference

You didn't talk about the sword but you know his wincon is based on that, right? That's why i was explaining why his wincon will be really hard to land.

Also, the skill difference isn't removing these other things i listed.

Ning is a 6 swords user with a danger sense that can sense the currents of fate, a 360° vision and a high level of skill himself, hitting him isn't a likely thing to happen at all.

Non-Physical Interaction

How does that help? That doesn't mean anything against barriers.

No idea what that is

Ning can control the concepts in an area to lock them.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Are you talking about his in-game skill or does he use them in a different way in-lore? Cause in-game you can easily dodge them.

In-lore he just spontaneously spawns chains on people (another part of the profile that needs updating)

Yasuo's precision feat that Aatrox scales above is better than Ning's precision feats and that's about it, they're really even in pretty much everything else to the point skill stomping wouldn't be possible at all.

Agreed

You didn't talk about the sword but you know his wincon is based on that, right? That's why i was explaining why his wincon will be really hard to land.

Agreed

Also, the skill difference isn't removing these other things i listed.

Agreed

Ning is a 6 swords user with a danger sense that can sense the currents of fate, a 360° vision and a high level of skill himself, hitting him isn't a likely thing to happen at all.

This is so can the Celestials, they transcend reality to the point that they can literally view all of space-time as finite and can see all points in time simultaneously as well as the beginning and end of time and can see fate itself and the lines of causality that are woven through the multiverse, but Aatrox still killed Pantheon. Lee Sin also has 360 vision.

How does that help? That doesn't mean anything against barriers.

Wouldnt help against barriers but would help if Ji turned into wind or elements

Ning can control the concepts in an area to lock them.

Yeah this kinda just ***** Aatrox over

 

[Planck69]

This is so can the Celestials, they transcend reality to the point that they can literally view all of space-time as finite and can see all points in time simultaneously as well as the beginning and end of time and can see fate itself and the lines of causality that are woven through the multiverse, but Aatrox still killed Pantheon. Lee Sin also has 360 vision.

Lee Sin's statement is good. The rest is just Cosmic Awareness. Ning can sense the Prime Essence but we both know that arguing Tier 1 senses here is dumb.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Lee Sin's statement is good. The rest is just Cosmic Awareness. Ning can sense the Prime Essence but we both know that arguing Tier 1 senses here is dumb.

Yeah, honestly if Ji is guaranteed to lead with the conceptual lock im starting to agree that Aatrox cant really do anything here unfortunately, even if Ji cant outright deconstruct him he can sorta just...kill him, and then the sword body would be concept locked as well so trox wouldnt even be able to possess him

If that werent a factor this would be an actually close fight but that sorta just makes it one-sided in Ji's favor

 

[XDragnoir]

Lee Sin also has 360 vision.

Lee Sin... has... vision?

 

[ShionAH]

Lee Sin... has... vision?

Hearing son

 

[XDragnoir]

Hearing son

Yeah but he said vision, i was lost there for a second.


I even thought Riot had retconned him to not be blind anymore.

 

[ShionAH]

Yeah but he said vision, i was lost there for a second.

Uhh sure

I even thought Riot had retconned him to not be blind anymore.

No

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Lee Sin... has... vision?

Bad wording on my part lol, he can perfectly sense everything around him