Ji Ning vs Aatrox

[XDragnoir]

Both are 4B, speed equal, SBA for everything else

Aatrox

I am not a king, I am not a god, I am... worse... Once honored defenders of Shurima against the Void, Aatrox and his brethren would eventually become an even greater threat to Runeterra, and were defeated only by cunning mortal sorcery. But after centuries of imprisonment, Aatrox was the first...

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Ji Ning (Three Realms)

Ji Ning, a teenager who, while being bedridden due to constant illness and predicted to die young, decided that he'd spend his life building an online fortune and use it to help those less fortunate than himself. Upon his death, he arrives at the Netherworld and learns that Earth was but one...

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[Arkenis]

this for the non smurf thread?

 

[XDragnoir]

this for the non smurf thread?

Not really, i was just searching for a match for Ning, also, i think Aatrox has smurf resistances

 

[Planck69]

Wow, most of that guy's shit is scanless. Except maybe his resistances.

So uh, what can he do to Ji Ning anyway? Ning seems to eventually just deconstruct his ass to dust, put him to sleep or BFR his ass.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah sorry, Most of the LoL profiles are missing a lot, theres been a revision in the works for a while to clean them up but i keep getting sidetracked

Im assuming Ji has smurf resistances?

 

[Planck69]

Not in this key. He's a smurf wall at 3-B onwards. Not as though it matters, I'm seeing like, nothing smurf there.

 

[ShionAH]

Wow, most of that guy's shit is scanless. Except maybe his resistances.

League of legends.

deconstruct his ass to dust,

Immortality (Types 1, 3, 5 [Darkin are incapable of dying as their concept no longer exists, and as a result they will survive even after the universe ends], and 6 [Can take control of anyone who touches his true sword body])

BFR his ass.

Dimensional Travel (His attacks are capable of reaching Celestials in the Celestial Realm)

What can Ji Ning do against: Possession, Fear Manipulation, Power Nullification

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Not in this key. He's a smurf wall at 3-B onwards. Not as though it matters, I'm seeing like, nothing smurf there.

Aatrox has smurf conceptual manip and smurf resistances

 

[ShionAH]

Aatrox has smurf conceptual manip and smurf resistances

Mordekaiser still stomps his ass imo

 

[Planck69]

League of legends.

Or course...

Immortality (Types 1, 3, 5 [Darkin are incapable of dying as their concept no longer exists, and as a result they will survive even after the universe ends], and 6 [Can take control of anyone who touches his true sword body])

That tells me **** all about how he'd handle that. His regeneration is nowhere near good enough.

Dimensional Travel (His attacks are capable of reaching Celestials in the Celestial Realm)

And? It tells me nothing of how he himself would come back from being transported away.

What can Ji Ning do against: Possession, Fear Manipulation, Power Nullification

He resists all of that bar Power Null. Even then, it also comes down to how they're used.

Aatrox has smurf conceptual manip and smurf resistances

Not to anything I've pointed out though. And how does his concept hax work anyway?

 

[ShionAH]

That tells me **** all about how he'd handle that. His regeneration is nowhere near good enough.

Ji-ning touches the sword GG. Immortality stops the death GG

And? It tells me nothing of how he himself would come back from being transported away.

He can still attack and the fight would be over wayy before 24 hours pass lol

He resists all of that bar Power Null. Even then, it also comes down to how they're used.

What

 

[Planck69]

Ji-ning touches the sword GG. Immortality stops the death GG

Ji Ning isn't touching the sword though. Again, how? He's still getting deconstructed. Unless he remains as an incorporeal spirit or some such.

He can still attack and the fight would be over wayy before 24 hours pass lol

What does that have to do with returning from being teleported away? Ning can cover pocket dimensions with the range of his powers and the profile says little about how Aatrox would handle that.

What

How does he use his powers?

 

[ShionAH]

Ji Ning isn't touching the sword though.

Why? Seems IC

Again, how? He's still getting deconstructed. Unless he remains as an incorporeal spirit or some such.

How is he getting deconstructed? Is that like a hax?

What does that have to do with returning from being teleported away? Ning can cover pocket dimensions with the range of his powers and the profile says little about how Aatrox would handle that.

He doesnt have to return. He can attack from other dimensions so he can attack and end the fight wayy before 24hrs pass and he loses via BFR.

How does he use his powers?

Possesion via the sword I think, Fear manipulation just makes everything near him fear him, Power null is written on the profile

 

[Planck69]

Why? Seems IC

....It's not. Ning doesn't go about picking up weapons or taking them from opponents for no reason.

How is he getting deconstructed? Is that like a hax?

Yes, it is. He gets turned to dust.

He doesnt have to return. He can attack from other dimensions so he can attack and end the fight wayy before 24hrs pass and he loses via BFR.

What attacks? Ning dodges and avoids most of them considering his skill advantage. Not to mention that with his accelerated development, he can master new powers to a conceptual level over the course of the fight.

Possesion via the sword I think, Fear manipulation just makes everything near him fear him, Power null is written on the profile

So Possession and Fear are out. Waiting for Power Null explanation I guess.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Ji Ning looks like convincing winner with easy in character win cons and skill advantage.

 

[ShionAH]

....It's not. Ning doesn't go about picking up weapons or taking them from opponents for no reason.

Nah it seems IC and I think it makes the enemy want to pick it up. Ning is gonna pick it up.

Yes, it is. He gets turned to dust.

But hmm Idk

What attacks? Ning dodges and avoids most of them considering his skill advantage.

No way he is dodging attacks coming from all the way from another dimensions. Not sure if he has the skill advantage.

 

[Planck69]

Nah it seems IC and I think it makes the enemy want to pick it up. Ning is gonna pick it up.

.....You can't just say "it seems IC" and think that sticks. Ning has never done this. And unless there is a scan of that sword making it so, there's no proof he would.

No way he is dodging attacks coming from all the way from another dimensions. Not sure if he has the skill advantage.

Why? They're just long range attacks. Them coming from wherever isn't that special. Especially given Ning's precognition.

 

[Planck69]

Anyway, voting for Ning if this isn't a stomp one way or the other.

 

[ShionAH]

That felt kinda agressive but anyways this seems like a stomp until we learn how Concept hax and Power null works

 

[XDragnoir]

Immortality (Types 1, 3, 5 [Darkin are incapable of dying as their concept no longer exists, and as a result they will survive even after the universe ends], and 6 [Can take control of anyone who touches his true sword body])

Aatrox can be incapped by destroying his Host body, as hid immortality only applies to the sword.

Nah it seems IC and I think it makes the enemy want to pick it up. Ning is gonna pick it up.

...

Did you at least read Desolate Era to claim what is or isn't in character for Ning?

No way he is dodging attacks coming from all the way from another dimensions. Not sure if he has the skill advantage.

First, do you have a scan of how these attacks travel between dimensions? Do they just appear without warning or are they like projectiles? Is there a portal or anything like that?

Second, Ning's precognition, ESP and skill would allow him to dodge and/or block it unless it spawns directly inside of him.

Also, Aatrox's resistance to concept hax is solely for manipulating his own concept, meanwhile Ning manipulates the surrounding concepts to lock people in place.

 

[ShionAH]

Why did you even make this matchup then? Aatrox has no win cons? Is this a spite match

 

[ShionAH]

Aatrox can be incapped by destroying his Host body, as hid immortality only applies to the sword.


...

Did you at least read Desolate Era to claim what is or isn't in character for Ning?


First, do you have a scan of how these attacks travel between dimensions? Do they just appear without warning or are they like projectiles? Is there a portal or anything like that?

Second, Ning's precognition, ESP and skill would allow him to dodge and/or block it unless it spawns directly inside of him.

Also, Aatrox's resistance to concept hax is solely for manipulating his own concept, meanwhile Ning manipulates the surrounding concepts to lock people in place.

Spite thread? I dont know aatrox I was just going off his profile.

 

[XDragnoir]

Why did you even make this matchup then? Aatrox has no win cons? Is this a spite match

Spite thread? I dont know aatrox I was just going off his profile.

No? Ning is haxy and all but his only insta kill hax is his soul hax which Aatrox can resist, so he seemed one of the best matches for Ning, given he also doesn't have ways to instakill Ning, but i plan to change him to Pantheon or other LoL 4Bs.

 

[ShionAH]

No? Ning is haxy and all but his only insta kill hax is his soul hax which Aatrox can resist, so he seemed one of the best matches for Ning, given he also doesn't have ways to instakill Ning, but i plan to change him to Pantheon or other LoL 4Bs.

Aatrox basically has no way to kill Ning I think.

 

[XDragnoir]

Aatrox basically has no way to kill Ning I think.

Idk, we need Weekly here to know that.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Aatrox basically has no way to kill Ning I think.

If Aatrox hits him with any of his attacks his concept gets killed on a 4-D (Soon to be 6 to 9-D) level

 

[Planck69]

Good thing that is never happening.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Good thing that is never happening.

Im responding to everything lol, gimme like 5 minutes

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Im responding to everything lol, gimme like 5 minutest

This is a non smurf battle no?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

This is a non smurf battle no?

I would assume not, Aatrox is very much a smurf, his concept manip, immortality, and resistances are 4-D (soon to be 6 to 9-D once i get off my ass and do the cosmology revisions)

 

[XDragnoir]

This is a non smurf battle no?

No, i think i made that clear in my first post.

 

[ShionAH]

I think aatrox has the skill advantage actually

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I think aatrox has the skill advantage actually

Was going to point that out but it'd be good to have a frame of reference for Ji's skill before we can say for certain

 

[Planck69]

Ning's skill feats are on his page. All I can gather from Aatrox's is that he's fought for millennia, which isn't a skill feat at all.

 

[XDragnoir]

I think aatrox has the skill advantage actually

Would that change anything tho? Ning has skill + many powers that would allow him to dodge or hit regardless of skill.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ning's skill feats are on his page. All I can gather from Aatrox's is that he's fought for millennia, which isn't a skill feat at all.

Again this is mostly my fault due to the page being so outdated, but Aatrox is near the top of the LoL skill chain with LoL as a verse being one of the most skilled on the entire wiki (Aatrox literally outskilled Garou in a thread before lol)

 

[ShionAH]

Ning's skill feats are on his page. All I can gather from Aatrox's is that he's fought for millennia, which isn't a skill feat at all.

He is concept of war and fought against armies and gods and other concepts for years lmao

 

[XDragnoir]

He is concept of war and fought against armies and gods and other concepts for years lmao

That's Pantheon, Aatrox isn't a Celestial.

And if we're going the conceptual route, Ning has that too.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That's Pantheon, Aatrox isn't a Celestial.

And if we're going the conceptual route, Ning has that too.

Aatrox fought and killed pantheon

 

[Planck69]

Again this is mostly my fault due to the page being so outdated, but Aatrox is near the top of the LoL skill chain with LoL as a verse being one of the most skilled on the entire wiki (Aatrox literally outskilled Garou in a thread before lol)

I'm gonna take your claim of LoL being one of the most skilled on site with a grain of salt. Him beating copy McGee is commendable but ultimately his own feats are what's important.

He is concept of war and fought against armies and gods and other concepts for years lmao

Being a "concept of war" isn't a skill feat and even if it was, Ning mastered the Dao of the Sword and was connected to its prime essence across reality. As for fighting gods for years, so has Ning. It was a minor test for him to do so for 100 years straight.