Jellal vs Naruto

[Omimi]

And jellal doesnt wield chakra, he didnt have any chakra network inside him

every one has Meridian System

 

[Omimi]

The staves also give Jellal illusions and sleep inducement.
About frog kata, how does Naruto hit the flying person while on the ground? Jellal typically goes for mid range attack spam (Grand Chariot, Sema, Atairis, Abyss Break, Five layered circle, Dark Grab, Ghost Fireworks, Pleiades, Jiu Leixing)

he has resistance to both

 

[AnonymousBlank]

The illusion resistance is from Kurama helping him which he doesn't have (Pain arc and all). The odds of Itachi trying his best to put Naruto to sleep are pretty low, while this spell has made dozens of people from Tier 8 to High 7-Cs fall asleep and a Low 7-B barely able to keep his eyes open. Naruto might not be KO'd but he is definitely gonna be taking a few hits when this happens.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Did you just bring up tiers for sleep manip?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I just remembered hax ignores tiers, still KO'd a lot of people. Should I just edit it out since its pointless?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Eh, doesn't really matter.

Still, was it more people then kabuto's stadium feat?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Naruto only got out of that because of Sakura, not to mention it was ridiculously slow to affect people. The ninja who fell asleep suck.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Those who fell asleep don't matter, the amount of them does.

And this naruto has better chakra control by this point than that sakura.

 

[AstralKing7]

It doesn't matter if the people suck lol but how many were effected

 

[Omimi]

The illusion resistance is from Kurama helping him which he doesn't have (Pain arc and all). The odds of Itachi trying his best to put Naruto to sleep are pretty low, while this spell has made dozens of people from Tier 8 to High 7-Cs fall asleep and a Low 7-B barely able to keep his eyes open. Naruto might not be KO'd but he is definitely gonna be taking a few hits when this happens.

reread naruto vs itachi again

naruto by himself resist both of itachi 1st illusions and sleep inducement

he only lost 2nd time be cuz itachi strengthen the illusions again/cust new illusions on top of old one cuz it wasnt working on naruto

+he has ma and pa who can easily pull him out of illusions

 

[AnonymousBlank]

He doesn't have Ma and Pa at all. He can summon them but he goes for Bunta, Kichi or Tatsu. The latter two are gonna get one shot while Bunta doesn't add much. This may be Pain arc Naruto but Ma isn't summoning the whole fam before this fight.

I just re read the Naruto vs Itachi fight and Naruto epically failed against the genjutsu.

>Gets caught, doesn't realise.

>Gets told, doesn't release it.

>Gets warned, releases it.

>Realises he's in one, fails to get out.

He only broke out of one and that was when the caster warned him, clearly not trying hard and expecting him to get out. The moment he doesn't want Naruto out, Naruto fails and needs Chiyo and Sakura to bail him out. If you wanna argue Naruto having resistance to illusions and sleep inducement, Itachi vs Naruto is not the example you wanna use.

 

[HST_Master]

@Omimi

Naruto Never cancelled out Itachi's genjutsu. MoF, he spent most of the fight trying to but to no avail to where granny chiyo and Sakura had to break it for him. Alongside the fact that Naruto has never in character summoned any other toads other than Gamabunta and an accidental Gamakichi during the War and his summoning training.

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Sleep manipulationÔëáillusion

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Jellal also have thought projection to distract naruto And what is naruto ap in this form and why?

 

[Theglassman12]

@9Tail and Naruto can just distract him with a shadow clone, what's your point? Also Jellal never used the sleep spell in character at all.

 

[BlackeJan]

U guys do know his shadowy clones can also go into SM right?

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

@9Tail and Naruto can just distract him with a shadow clone, what's your point? Also Jellal never used the sleep spell in character at all.

5 layer magic circle spell is sleep manipulation spell, and naruto cant make only limited clone in sage mode. @black jean its pain arc naruto, and i limited him with 2 sage mode clone(same as against pain)

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

You cannot limit characters...

 

[Captain_Torch]

This is Pain Arc Sage Mode naruto, so he is limited to 2 clones. If this was war arc sage mode naruto, this would be another story

 

[BlackeJan]

@Acno

U do know that his clones STILL can use SM so that already makes it EVEN harder for him

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

This is Pain Arc Sage Mode naruto, so he is limited to 2 clones. If this was war arc sage mode naruto, this would be another story

But... he can make more clones than that. He only doesn't because it messes up sage mode, but he can have a clone go to charge up sage energy, and have it recharg his sage mode if if he runs out of it.

Especially as at this point even his base was strong enough to hurt 7-As.

 

[Brighthanabi]

Jellal should be strong as DF natsu who overpowered mard geer. Which would put jellal at large mountain level. Whats naruto sm ap again?

 

[Captain_Torch]

This is Pain Arc Sage Mode naruto, so he is limited to 2 clones. If this was war arc sage mode naruto, this would be another story

But... he can make more clones than that. He only doesn't because it messes up sage mode, but he can have a clone go to charge up sage energy, and have it recharg his sage mode if if he runs out of it.
Especially as at this point even his base was strong enough to hurt 7-As.

The problem is, he needed to prep the clones beforehand, and this match doesn't have prep time, so it will be very hard for him to create sage mode clones.

At that point in time it took him a while to enter the mode, and he needed great concentration for that

 

[Brighthanabi]

This is Pain Arc Sage Mode naruto, so he is limited to 2 clones. If this was war arc sage mode naruto, this would be another story

Naruto has no clones in storage in the war arc though, but his handling of sm has been improved at that time.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not really. He can make the clones with ease, and achieving sage mode doesn't take that long.

He needed concentration, but I don't remember it being actually shown how much he needs.

And again, even if he gets heavily damaged, he'll have kurama healing him.

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

You cannot limit characters...

I only limit his sage clone, for example, if he run out if sage mode then he can immediately summon his clone to enter again in sage mode thats it.

Also he need atleast 5min to enter in sage mode

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Jellal have-

• his heavely body attack

• sleep manipulation and attack reflection

• binding magic

• can vanish anyone from a distance

• telekinesis

• flight advantage

• he is intelligent, he fights against cobra who can read his attack and racer who can slow down his speed.

This form naruto have

• sage mode aka enhance states

• clone( in sage mode naruto shown to use 5-10clone when he fight agaisnt all path)

• rasengan and rasenshriken

• Healing (low)

• and other ninja technique

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

this fight from start to End

Naruto like always start with clone with sage Rasengan to overpower jellal, jellal use meteor to evade/fly and shot his energy attack(shown in the tower of heaven against Natsu), if naruto create more clone, jellal can take them out with grand chariot, the attack is fast enough to his orcian seis before the react to able to dodge it. If naruto use rasenshriken then it can be reflected back using mirror water, and that Naruto can't control rasenshriken from distance, and as we all know naruto cant take his own rasenshriken, even if he survive jellal can finish it with altaris,abyss break or with sema

,

 

[BlackeJan]

For goodness sake my dude the man is as stronger or stronger then someone who has an 600GT which is WAY ABOVE Jellals so AP is already the starting factor here + his clones can also go into SM + FRS (ignores durability) + variant of Rasengan + healing + enchanted sensory/ability to predict attacks thanks to SM + Frog Kata (ability to use nature chakra as another hand) so if Naruto misses a punch then Jellal still takes damage

 

[Captain_Torch]

Naruto is stronger than someone who is 600 megatons, while Jellal is 580 megatons. Naruto has a slight AP advabtage, but it is nowhere as big as you say.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Naruto is stronger than someone who is 600 megatons, while Jellal is 580 megatons. Naruto has a slight AP advabtage, but it is nowhere as big as you say.

Naruto one-shot someone stronger than 600 megatons dude.

And the scaling isn't even like that.

Sasuke<Pain~Itachi~Jiraiya<Naruto

 

[Captain_Torch]

Naruto wasn't above Pain though

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Naruto wasn't above Pain though

The cyborgone, he was.

That one scales to 600.

And he was above pain. Jiraiya already was above pain. It's jusat that they are hard to kill due to their powers

 

[BlackeJan]

Naruto wasn't above Pain though

In a way yes he's stronger the Pain. Deva admitted that if IMPERFECT SM Jiraiya was to figure out how to deal w/ the clones then Pain would had lost so u can see that a PERFECTED SM Naruto dealing w/ that same Pain

I honestly don't understand why people say he didn't destroy Pain when he clearly was

 

[AstralKing7]

Pain doesn't physically scale to Naruto. Naruto>Pervy Sage> Itachi(Susanno) > Pain> Sasuke

Pain(ST and CT) SM Naruto and KN6 Naruto as of right now

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Naruto wasn't above Pain though

In a way yes he's stronger the Pain. Deva admitted that if IMPERFECT SM Jiraiya was to figure out how to deal w/ the clones then Pain would had lost so u can see that a PERFECTED SM Naruto dealing w/ that same Pain
I honestly don't understand why people say he didn't destroy Pain when he clearly was

no

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

Naruto is stronger than someone who is 600 megatons, while Jellal is 580 megatons. Naruto has a slight AP advabtage, but it is nowhere as big as you say.

Naruto one-shot someone stronger than 600 megatons dude.
And the scaling isn't even like that.

Sasuke<Pain~Itachi~Jiraiya<Naruto

Each of the pain path doesnt have same durability, especially for the guy who shoots missile, while jellal ap is 580 it was blind jellal.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Each of the pain path doesnt have same durability, especially for the guy who shoots missile, while jellal ap is 580 it was blind jellal.

Does not matter.

The cyborg is still scaled to 600, Naruto still one-shots, Deal with it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

no

It's almost like he was sdtabbed with something that makes you unable to use chakra and move.

 

[fandom_9TailAcno]

For goodness sake my dude the man is as stronger or stronger then someone who has an 600GT which is WAY ABOVE Jellals so AP is already the starting factor here + his clones can also go into SM + FRS (ignores durability) + variant of Rasengan + healing + enchanted sensory/ability to predict attacks thanks to SM + Frog Kata (ability to use nature chakra as another hand) so if Naruto misses a punch then Jellal still takes damage

Ap higherÔëáauto win

Naruto clone can sage mode but it takes time and prep,

Some of the jellal attack also shown to ignore durability, like he dark magic etc.

He have only two rasengan, rasengan and rasenshriken(size is differ)

Jellal have more range attack then naruto, and i already mention his ability.

Again tere is not explanation that how naruto ap is 600GT