Jason Voorhees upgrade

[XXKINGXX69]

He should have FTL combat speed as Uber Jason
(needs a calc but someone can make it quick)

Spoiler: nanosecond timing

Jason lifted the bottle up as if to drink, and Eddie stared up, mesmerized by the giant's every move. But the big guy didn't put the bottle to his lips. Instead, he raised it higher than his lips, higher than his head, higher, like he he was going to pour the wine on top of his head. With lightning speed Jason brought down the bottom of the bottle onto the top of Eddie's head. The bottle shattered at impact, and it was just a nanosecond before the first holding the bottle slammed Eddie's crown, forcing his brain downward against the brainstem that pierced through the spongy gray matter. Blood shot up and around Eddie's head like a fountain, splashing down to his shoulders, leaving only shreds where Eddie's head should have been. Blood spurted out his nose and mouth, out of his bulging eyes, Eddie's body stood rigid for a few moments before the former prize fighter went down for the last time.

To the Third Power: Pg327

Possible counterarguments:

Jason was hit by bullets

Spoiler: Bullets

He moved toward the lake as she had told him but instead of stopping at five paces, he went all the way to the edge of the lake and stood over the corpse of the soldier still lying facedown in the shallow water. "That's far enough!" Sofira bellowed at him. "Don't move, don't even twitch!"

The steel gargoyle face tilted to one side with a bizarre suggestion of mild curiosity; then the figure put one foot on the corpse in a bracing position, bent down, and tore one of its legs off. Without hesitating, Sofira open fire, giving him a five second burst, and then stopped to wipe her eyes.

The smoke was getting worse but she was able to clear her eyes well enough to see him standing there holding that machete in one hand and the charred leg in the other, still starring at her with his head tilted to one side as if nothing had happened.

Then she heard a sound like a giant fist slamming into the earth. Sofira felt herself lifted off her feet and flung backwards. The last thing she saw were burgeoning storm clouds of fire surging toward her as if they were chasing her on purpose, swallowing up everything as they went, even setting the air itself aflame.

Jason X: The Experiment : Pg 91 and 92

Jason didn't even try to dodge them, implying he just stood there and tanked those bullets, so it might not even be an anti feat

Furthermore, there is another speed feat he has that could imply something close to bullet timing. Jason moved so fast someone couldn't even register his movement

Spoiler: FTE

The extending hand went down, the one with the blade went up. It sliced up so fast between Savini's legs that he plummeted into shock instantly. He felt no pain at all in his genitals, just a sense that he was peeing. No pain, no terror. At least not until he glanced in the mirror behind the giant and saw that it wasn't urine coming from his crotch but a flow of red. He looked down to see that which had always made him a man now lying at his feet. He screamed.

Jason X: Planet of the Beast: Pg 21

There is another feat to support him being not slower than bullets, him moving at the speed of a flash of lightning:

Spoiler: flash lightning speed

Then I saw him tear into Paola, with his hands, and with a huge knife. He stabbed her at flash-lightning speed; it must have been over fifty times. In the end her body became a pile of bloody ribbons.

Jason X: Planet of the Beast: Pg 95

 

[Mariogoods]

I can't believe that Jason has such speed.

The proposal seems fine, but I'd like to hear possible counterargument.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I can't believe that Jason has such speed.

The proposal seems fine, but I'd like to hear possible counterargument.

I put possible counterarguments in the OP

 

[Mariogoods]

I put possible counterarguments in the OP

Your proposal seems solid and your explanation of possible counterargument is good.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

(needs a calc but someone can make it quick)

I've already made a calc on this. You'd only get Sub-Rel since Jason's fist at most crosses the distance of a wine bottle, which just isn't that long.

But for the context of the thread I'm not really for it. The author of the novel is known to sorta just spam small timeframes when it doesn't make sense. Some examples:

A normal human can somehow experience a timeframe described as a femtosecond

The small shuttle suffered another round of attacks from the invisible forces but then they broke through and were hurtling down towards the dark surface that loomed closer and closer with every passing second. The surface reminded Felicity of surgery she'd had to correct a problem with both corneas. In the femtosecond when the eye surgeon temporarily removed the and corneal flaps over her pupils, she had experienced a black darker than any black she had previously imagined. That's what Planet #666 was like, and that blackness was about to swallow them.

Normal buff woman is described as having nanosecond reactions

“Shush," Akako snapped. To look at her, you'd never think this petite, Zen-like flora specialist could defend herself, let alone enter attack mode in a nanosecond, but there you go; looks are deceiving. London had watched this twenty-three year-old on more than one occasion dominate someone twice her stature. And in fact Helmet--who suddenly sat back to listen attentively-was twice her size.

Jason Voorhees in this novel would dead sprint but still wouldn't instantly overtake people as an example. But to go further, this feat was preformed by Jason X II who later on fought Jason X III and did so in a way that a normal human could follow and comprehend.

Plus when every one of his other feats range from "Athletic Human" to "Subsonic" then "Sub-Rel" is a bit of a leap.

The flash-lightning stuff was also witnessed by another normal human, so I don't think its going to be MHS+ or anything.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I've already made a calc on this. You'd only get Sub-Rel since Jason's fist at most crosses the distance of a wine bottle, which just isn't that long.

But for the context of the thread I'm not really for it. The author of the novel is known to sorta just spam small timeframes when it doesn't make sense. Some examples:

A normal human can somehow experience a timeframe described as a femtosecond

Normal buff woman is described as having nanosecond reactions

Jason Voorhees in this novel would dead sprint but still wouldn't instantly overtake people as an example. But to go further, this feat was preformed by Jason X II who later on fought Jason X III and did so in a way that a normal human could follow and comprehend.

Plus when every one of his other feats range from "Athletic Human" to "Subsonic" then "Sub-Rel" is a bit of a leap.

The flash-lightning stuff was also witnessed by another normal human, so I don't think its going to be MHS+ or anything.

Those examples aren't part of the same novel so I don't think it can be used

If humans could react to them fighting, it means that jason isn't even at full speed in the first place, since he's FTE when he's at full speed, so those aren't anti feats that apply to jason at his peak. Or it means those normal humans just aren't normal humans in terms of speed

That person didn't react to the stabbing, only that he saw Jason stabbing

 

[Qawsedf234]

Those examples aren't part of the same novel so I don't think it can be used

They're from the same author in the same set of five novels that take place after each other.

So imo it's a valid enough comparison.

since he's FTE when he's at full speed

Sure, but that's generally his max. To go from subsonic to Sub-Rel+ is just a rather large leap for Jason.