I feel that goes against what the film is showing. But then again, the film doesn't actually explain it, going strictly for show don't tell.Sorry Luffy.
But the daizenshuu states that Janemba Sealed Enma, and that this fact is what caused the laws of the living world and afterlife to go hay wire.
Janemba is not warping the afterlife. The absence of Enma's control or him being sealed is the cause, not Janemba himself.
His birth and magic were messing with and reversing the laws of reality governing the Other World and the Universe, leading to the dead rising from their graves and other supernatural and physical phenomena outside of the norm
Considering this would be similar to infinite Zamasu's feat (even down to threatening to affect an alternate space-time), and that one we also rated Low 2-C
Janemba himself doesn't possess anyone. The oni is what's possessed by the evil.
Doesn't it have to affect the past, present, and future? Because I know absolutely nothing about it'-'
I just don’t see it.
That's the thing. We rated it as Low 2-C without a showing affecting past, present and future (which is why many wanted it downgraded, but it never was).
Can I add one more thing? How to manipulate from the law to the Enma Daioh?
Now I understand everything! Thank you very much for the explanation
If we change that, Janemba pretty much doesn't have a feat anymore, would be scaling to Goku's High 3-A.
I don’t understand
About further elaborations on the abstract existence of janemba in games, it would be more like a duplicate. Because this might be useful for the heroes' characters, I don't know. If he updates even his version of the movie, I see no reason at all.
Bro I’m confused if he is the evil and possesses other that seems like ae and avatar creation to me
3-A high is still a good upgrade!
No point he’ll be High 3-A anyways scaling from Goku in like 3 hours
We won't change it, but the other mention of Janemba being quoted as destroying the universe
He did affect the Living World via resurrection/transportation though, since all of the villains were resurrected in Earth
There are so many crts that I've even lost myself lol
Janemba is not the evil itself. That's the point.
In fact, the evil of souls takes possession of his entire being, this is explained during the film, the boy was good and became evil after being affected by the evil of souls
Ahh okay that makes more sense Janemba is the oni
That's a consequence of the laws being distorted.
Are you saying that the laws being distorted are a result of Enma being sealed and not Janemba's effect, then?
There is another mention that I didn't find in my language, does it actually have this mention?
Even if Janemba himself did it, it still wouldn't suggest anything higher than Low 2-C imo
I don't remember that quote, but can look around.
Thank you very much, look at me yes! Here in my translation it does not have that, but there is another one when it is spoken by Goku on the thorns where Janemba was in his second form (citing him destroying the Universe ) although I didn't find it in the English subtitle
Zamasu's feat has evidence of him affecting space time, what evidence does this one have for such?
For it to be low 2-C it has to affect all the past pressent and future
It was my plan, 2-C upgrade screw it over tho
Isn't this dub only and not said in the original?
Sorry Luffy
But the daizenshuu states that Janemba Sealed Enma, and that this fact is what caused the laws of the living world and afterlife to go hay wire.
Janemba is not warping the afterlife. The absence of Enma's control or him being sealed is the cause, not Janemba himself.
In the English translation I think it is also said to talk about Janemba destroying the universe, but not in the subtitle
The sub is the translation, the dub is the adaptation
Seems the line of Janemba destroying the universe comes from the latin spanish dub, as not even the english dub has it (only says he was gonna "conquer" the universe).
It's okay, bro! I already have the solution on this subject :3Sorry Luffy
But the daizenshuu states that Janemba Sealed Enma, and that this fact is what caused the laws of the living world and afterlife to go hay wire.
Janemba is not warping the afterlife. The absence of Enma's control or him being sealed is the cause, not Janemba himself.
I also found in the sub that Goku believes that the dead are returning because of Emma being sealed (scene with Vegeta after the latter got stomped by Janemba)
It seems so, in mine here is the destruction of the universe, but oh well.
Thank you very much!
I checked another english dub too
Quick explanation: Janemba trapped Emma in a barrier like jelly beans, which caused her powers to be nullified and all laws are being affected, thus making the dead come back to life. All changes in the other world like jelly beans and crystals that look like jelly beans are being caused by Janemba, simply Janemba shaped all hell with his jelly beans barriers.
