Jane Foster- Valkyrie addition

[Saksham_Gopal]

The weapon she wields, Undrjarn, has now fused with her. This enables her to react with the appropriate force at the appropriate time. That is why we have seen her fight low-tier opponents and then suddenly be able to harm Odin and Thor-level beings after a few issues. This is entirely dependent on the Undrjarn and how much it is amplifying her - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #1

She stuns Rakkva possessed Thor and makes a cut on his arms - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #9

Knocks out Bullseye. He was amped by Dragonfang here - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #2

draws blood from an unprepared Odin - Thor #13

Lifting Class - At least 5 - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #1

Speed
She doesn't have any impressive speed accomplishments on her own. We can only power scale her with Bullseye and Thor because she fought both of them and perfectly matched them.

There is this one statement where she says, "one of the gifts of the Valkyrior -- fast travel to the Asgardian Halls of the dead". But personally, I believe she doesn't actually travel there but only teleports and what we see is only a streak of yellow lighting - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #1

This is what the new Valkyrie profile will look like If this gets accepted (not counting speed, attack potency)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Saksham_Gopal/sandbox3


Listing abilities here:

BFR
Valkyrie sends Grim Reaper to Valhalla - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #5

Information Analysis
With Death Stare - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #6 & Valkyrie: Jane Foster #7

Extrasensory Perception
Can see souls, invisible beings (Valkyrie: Jane Foster #1) and the fate of a person (King in Black: Return of the Valkyries #1)

Reactive Evolution, Statistics Amplification
Undrjarn responds with the right force in the right situation - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #1

Enhanced Senses
Can hear headless corpses making sound (King in Black: Return of the Valkyries #1) and senses souls being torn Valkyrie: Jane Foster #9

Space-Reality Manipulation, Dimensional Travel
Takes Heimdall towards Journey into Mystery by carving her way through reality and space. (Valkyrie: Jane Foster #3) Travels with Sentry through the realm of consciousness which is devoid of time and space (King in Black: Return of the Valkyries #1)

Non-Physical Interaction
Restrains Rakkova a shadowy monster of anti-life - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #10

Forcefield creation
Creates shield to stop energy attacks, (Valkyrie: Jane Foster #5) Thor's lightning (Valkyrie: Jane Foster #9) and magic (Valkyrie: Jane Foster #4)

Limited Telepathy and sentience for weapon
Undrjarn commands Mr. Horse - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #5

Precognition
Death Stare reveals a person's fate, including their death - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #6


Resistance to

Pain Manipulation
Travels through the Anti-Tree, which inflicts unbearable suffering on every part of the psyche - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #3

Life Energy & Soul Manipulation
Resisted the demons that saps away the life force and kills the soul. Stops Rakkva Thor from draining her life force - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #8 & Valkyrie: Jane Foster #9

Sealing
Undrjarn can break magical seals - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #9

Deconstruction
Undrjarn halted the deterioration of her body caused by darkness. - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #10

 

[Antvasima]

We can probably somewhat scale her to normal Thor, but not to full-power Odin. Every time she stands up to him it is serious plot-induced stupidity. Also, Odin had given up his Odinforce to Thor at this point.

 

[Antvasima]

The abilities are probably fine, but I prefer some input from knowledgeable members.

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What do you think about this?

 

[Qawsedf234]

What do you think about this

No sources means nothing here can be approved

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

@Saksham_Gopal

You need to provide the issue numbers for each scan.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Okay.

@Saksham_Gopal

You need to provide the issue numbers for each scan.

Sorry I didn't know that I had to cite the source even in the content thread. I will keep that in mind.

Regardless of that I always cites my source and here I did while revamping Jane Foster profile
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Saksham_Gopal/sandbox3#Valkyrie


again I will cite the sources in the content thread also from next time

 

[Antvasima]

You need to insert the sources in the first post of this thread though. Otherwise it will be hard for others tl evaluate it.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

You need to insert the sources in the first post of this thread though. Otherwise it will be hard for others tl evaluate it.

Is there any way the thread can be edited? I found this today that after one time posting they can't be edited or if you want I can make a detailed thread?

 

[Antvasima]

There should be edit buttons available at the bottom of your posts.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

There should be edit buttons available at the bottom of your posts.

Sorry for the confusion. I edited them with source

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

No sources means nothing here can be approved

I cited the source

 

[LordTracer]

Note that Modern Odin is pretty much a 4-B, he’s needed a key about that for a while now.

Reactive Evolution, Statistics Amplification
Undrjarn responds with the right force in the right situation

I don’t think this qualifies as stat amping. Reactive Evolution is fine.

Limited Telepathy and sentience for weapon
Undrjarn commands Mr. Horse

This is just Animal Manipulation.

Precognition
Death Stare reveals a person's fate, including their death

This is more like Clairvoyance than precog.

Everything I didn’t mention is prolly fine, but sources are needed for this to be accepted.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Note that Modern Odin is pretty much a 4-B, he’s needed a key about that for a while now.

I don’t think this qualifies as stat amping. Reactive Evolution is fine.

This is just Animal Manipulation.

This is more like Clairvoyance than precog.

Everything I didn’t mention is prolly fine, but sources are needed for this to be accepted.

I believe your comment was made before I added the assertions to the source. So far, I'm not opposed to your suggestion.

 

[Newendigo]

Reacting with the right force in the right situation sounds more like Reactive Power level than Reactive Evolution, as the latter involves both growing stronger and gaining new abilities/resistances.

As Tracer said above, that's animal manipulation.

Rest is fine, I guess.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

For the Thor (JF) image, could you use the one in this sandbox?

 

[Kulf_Boba]

If this change is made, her name should become Jane Foster (Marvel Comics).

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

If this change is made, her name should become Jane Foster (Marvel Comics).

I have made a sandbox to see how her profile will look like with chance. And there I added the image you asked to replace with Thor Jane Foster and now the profile looks much better than before. For now, I am waiting for the Valkyrie image to be rendered.

This is the sandbox

Saksham Gopal/sandbox3

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

We can probably somewhat scale her to normal Thor, but not to full-power Odin. Every time she stands up to him it is serious plot-induced stupidity. Also, Odin had given up his Odinforce to Thor at this point.

If odin had given the odinforce up wouldn't it be fine to scale her to him since he'd be roughly comparable to Thor at that point

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

If Odin had given the odinforce up wouldn't it be fine to scale her to him since he'd be roughly comparable to Thor at that point

That will be at max 4B Odin. He gave force to Thor and only left with his Asgardian physiology

 

[Antvasima]

For the Thor (JF) image, could you use the one in this sandbox?

I added the image.

Also, you seem to use different usernames here and in the wiki. Should I update the one that you use here?

 

[Antvasima]

If odin had given the odinforce up wouldn't it be fine to scale her to him since he'd be roughly comparable to Thor at that point

Maybe. We do not know for certain how powerful he is without it.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Also, you seem to use different usernames here and in the wiki. Should I update the one that you use here?

Yes, please.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Maybe. We do not know for certain how powerful he is without it.

I see. If his stats are unknown then we should probably stick to thor instead.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

I added the image.

A Summary should be added so that the image does not cover the powers and abilities.

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

A Summary should be added so that the image does not cover the powers and abilities.

I agree. If you don't mind we can use the summary you have written in your sandbox. That looks fine.
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I also rendered the Valkyrie Jane Foster image and I think it is good for standard as it was my first time doing it. But if someone could edit it a little bit more then It will be good to publish
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Jane_Foster_Valkyrie_poster.png

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Maybe. We do not know for certain how powerful he is without it.

Her rating should not be tampered with, in my opinion. Her finest achievement here will be hurting Thor, which will get her the same stats as her Thor key. Aside from that, isn't it better if we add "varies" to her attack potency because it's up to the Undrjarn to determine how much power is required at any given time? She's fought everyone from street thugs to Thor, and the weapon has always determined her strength.
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Speed - Off with her facing and quickly defeating an amped Bullseye after going all out and fighting a possessed Thor, I couldn't find any solid scaling there for her. In my perspective, her numbers are the same as her Thor key, thus there are no modifications here. We might include teleportation because she has shown accessing the realm of the dead in an instant, but we don't witness her really flying there except for a yellow bolt of light. Very much like how Kamen Rider Evolt uses his teleportation to reach different nearby habitat planets.
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Changes in abilities -

1. Reactive Evolution is fine so we will cut of statistic amplification
2. In place of limited telepathy, animal manipulation is proposed
3. And in place of precognition, Clairvoyance is proposed

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, please.

So should I change your username to Kulf Boba then?

 

[Antvasima]

I see. If his stats are unknown then we should probably stick to thor instead.

Probably, yes.

Her rating should not be tampered with, in my opinion. Her finest achievement here will be hurting Thor, which will get her the same stats as her Thor key. Aside from that, isn't it better if we add "varies" to her attack potency because it's up to the Undrjarn to determine how much power is required at any given time? She's fought everyone from street thugs to Thor, and the weapon has always determined her strength.
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Speed - Off with her facing and quickly defeating an amped Bullseye after going all out and fighting a possessed Thor, I couldn't find any solid scaling there for her. In my perspective, her numbers are the same as her Thor key, thus there are no modifications here. We might include teleportation because she has shown accessing the realm of the dead in an instant, but we don't witness her really flying there except for a yellow bolt of light. Very much like how Kamen Rider Evolt uses his teleportation to reach different nearby habitat planets.
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Changes in abilities -

1. Reactive Evolution is fine so we will cut of statistic amplification
2. In place of limited telepathy, animal manipulation is proposed
3. And in place of precognition, Clairvoyance is proposed

So, a new key with the same statistics, but a different power set then? Or should we give her variable statistics, given that they canonically adapt to the level of her opponents?

 

[Antvasima]

A Summary should be added so that the image does not cover the powers and abilities.

What do you mean?

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Probably, yes.

So, a new key with the same statistics, but a different power set then? Or should we give her variable statistics, given that they canonically adapt to the level of her opponents?

I believe the variable statistics are acceptable. Given her power, her adaptation is severely hampered, and she adapts to the level of her opponent only to the point of neither exceeding nor receding from it. Because she isn't always 4B in her Valkyrie form, writing "varies" alongside her Valkyrie power statistics should be acceptable.

So a new key with variable statistics but a different power set is ok.

However, if you can come up with anything more realistic, it will be fine because this is my first time updating a character. Your approach will be more acceptable than mine.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am a quantity over quality type of contributor, but I think that "Varies, up to 4-B" might work.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

So should I change your username to Kulf Boba then?

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so.

 

[Kulf_Boba]

What do you mean?

If a summary of their history is added, the powers and abilities will be below and the image does not cover them.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it seems better to add a tabber that includes an image of her as Thor and another as Valkyrie then.

 

[Hellbeast]

Maybe. We do not know for certain how powerful he is without it.

Yeah if he has no feats without it we could probably give him a key for "without Odinforce"

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Yeah if he has no feats without it we could probably give him a key for "without Odinforce"

I don't know if he has done anything impressive so far to have a 4B key. There isn't even a good feat through which we could put him into a tier plus without Odinforce Odin has very minuscule appearances

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

@Antvasima I think the purpose of this thread is over. Possibly we can proceed to add Valkyrie abilities to her profile

 

[Teezar]

Reactive Evolution, Statistics Amplification
Undrjarn responds with the right force in the right situation -

Seems like reactive power level but depends on the situation.

Precognition
Death Stare reveals a person's fate, including their death - Valkyrie: Jane Foster #6

Seems like future sight but still probably precognition due to able to see a person's fate and their death(something that literally happens in the future).

 

[Saksham_Gopal]

Seems like reactive power level but depends on the situation.

Seems like future sight but still probably precognition due to able to see a person's fate and their death(something that literally happens in the future).

Yeah I told that to Ant already