FrenchStephy
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Just finished re-reading Rave so it's CRT time!
Darkness Weight
The 7-A characters are currently scaling to Doryu’s Darkness Weight, a blast of Dark Magic equal to 400 Megatons of power. The problem is that in the RAW, Doryu is actually saying “400メガブルーの重さ”, “400 Megablue of weight”. We have a weird weight unit that doesn’t even exist (thanks Mashima really sweet of you buddy), no megatons RIP 7-A you will not be missed.
Overdrive
Not a downgrade this timeI hope. First, Endless should have 2 keys: Endless as the King of Oblivion (his 2 appearances; during the first Haru vs Lucia at Star Vestige and in the climax of the Hardner fight) and as the Dimension-Destroying Dark Bring (when fused with the 5 Mother DB/Sinclaire). His first key has some strong feats that could be calc’d but I will leave that to the pros.
What I want do is tackle the second key. Endless is "At least High 6-B, 5-B with Overdrive". The Planet level justification is: Planet level with Overdrive (Has the power to destroy the entire planet and wipe out all of human history, however it takes many hours to charge this power up and the destruction will destroy Endless along with the planet).
Main antagonist’s goal was to 1) Get Endless to nuke the parallel world with Overdrive while inside the Stellar Memory 2) travel back to the “real” world with Elie as his bride using the Space-Time manipulation of the Stellar Memory and 3) finally live his own life, free of his ancestor’s “sin”, his cursed destiny and all that stuff (since the human that created this parallel world was his ancestor). Endless’ Overdrive is stated numerous times to be able to erase the entire parallel world, and Endless himself in this state is the Dimension-Destroying (次元崩壊, Jigen Hōkai; litt. Dimension Collapse) Dark Bring. Alpine even made the distinction between the planet and the dimension/parallel world here (with translations). So, what I’m proposing is simple: Endless’ second key should be At least High 6-B, ??? with Overdrive (Has the power to destroy the entire parallel world that contains Rave’s Earth. However, charging the Overdrive takes many hours and the destruction will destroy Endless along with the dimension); y’all can decide what the ??? actually is based on the explanations, I don’t really know myself. Also, you may think that it's just an outlier but I don't agree because:
Pretty much every character is scaling from Elie’s lightning dodge. But the feat itself has a (huge?) problem: Elie never dodged lightning, she dodged electricity.
Also, having characters from the beginning of Rave scaling to a feat from Volume 26 (out of 35) doesn’t really make sense; Silfarion, the third from of Haru’s sword which greatly increase his speed didn't even reach the speed of sound at first. Of course, as the story progressed, Haru became stronger, faster and by the time of his fight against Sieghart in volume 6, he was able to attack at the speed of sound. So yeah, the calc needs to be remade, and we also need a new calc for the Beginning of Series characters.
Light Speed
The God Tiers are currently At least Massively Hypersonic, likely FTL (upscaling from 1) Elie's calc from before and 2) from Shakuma’s light speed attack). The thing is that Shakuma can ATTACK at the speed of light with his Lightning Magic but that’s all. It doesn’t scale to his combat, flight or reactions speed. And there are no proof that anybody else can dodge, react or attack faster than this spell, especially when we don't have much in terms of speed feats in the series. The "likely FTL" rating isn't accurate; Shakuma can be "???? (Faster than Post-Shiba Fight Haru), Speed of Light attack speed with Lightning (Can attack with a Lightning spell that move at the Speed of Light)
TL;DR
Darkness Weight
The 7-A characters are currently scaling to Doryu’s Darkness Weight, a blast of Dark Magic equal to 400 Megatons of power. The problem is that in the RAW, Doryu is actually saying “400メガブルーの重さ”, “400 Megablue of weight”. We have a weird weight unit that doesn’t even exist (
Overdrive
Not a downgrade this time
What I want do is tackle the second key. Endless is "At least High 6-B, 5-B with Overdrive". The Planet level justification is: Planet level with Overdrive (Has the power to destroy the entire planet and wipe out all of human history, however it takes many hours to charge this power up and the destruction will destroy Endless along with the planet).
Before the World of Rave, there was the previous and "true" world where the apocalypse brought it to the end. All the lands were deserted, temperature rising, plagues were spread leading to a substantial birth decrease until nobody on earth was left. One human managed to survive and arrive at the Stellar Memory(1). She travelled back in time and changed history, causing a divergent timeline called ‘The Parallel World’. This is the world that Rave’s story takes place in. The result of that was the birth of Endless and the Sinclairs (& most likely the consequent creation of Etherion and the Holy Brings due to their mirroring nature). The force known as Endless that will eradicate the whole world and everything in it. Endless is the King of Stellar Memories; a lifeform with a will made of memories, making him a part of Stellar Memories and "an embodiment of memories": A beast whose only purpose is to annihilate the "false" history. Endless grows by accumulating hate and ambition, making it be indescribably unstoppable. When all five Mother DBs assemble, they fuse with Endless to return to their original form: the true origin of all the Dark Brings, the Dimension-Destroying Dark Bring who will bring the Overdrive that will erase the "false" world.
(1) Stellar (or Star) Memory = a natural phenomenon made by the planet’s lifeforce over billions of years. It’s an alternate dimension that transcend time and space, and even Etherion at full power cannot destroy it (it is said that no force can destroy it). Its entrance constantly changes places but by entering inside it you can manipulate time and space.
(1) Stellar (or Star) Memory = a natural phenomenon made by the planet’s lifeforce over billions of years. It’s an alternate dimension that transcend time and space, and even Etherion at full power cannot destroy it (it is said that no force can destroy it). Its entrance constantly changes places but by entering inside it you can manipulate time and space.
Main antagonist’s goal was to 1) Get Endless to nuke the parallel world with Overdrive while inside the Stellar Memory 2) travel back to the “real” world with Elie as his bride using the Space-Time manipulation of the Stellar Memory and 3) finally live his own life, free of his ancestor’s “sin”, his cursed destiny and all that stuff (since the human that created this parallel world was his ancestor). Endless’ Overdrive is stated numerous times to be able to erase the entire parallel world, and Endless himself in this state is the Dimension-Destroying (次元崩壊, Jigen Hōkai; litt. Dimension Collapse) Dark Bring. Alpine even made the distinction between the planet and the dimension/parallel world here (with translations). So, what I’m proposing is simple: Endless’ second key should be At least High 6-B, ??? with Overdrive (Has the power to destroy the entire parallel world that contains Rave’s Earth. However, charging the Overdrive takes many hours and the destruction will destroy Endless along with the dimension); y’all can decide what the ??? actually is based on the explanations, I don’t really know myself. Also, you may think that it's just an outlier but I don't agree because:
- It scales to nobody, it's a "suicide" attack.
- And yes I know, Etherion is stronger than the Overdrive, it is stated multiple times. But the thing is, Etherion was stated to be far stronger than THE Overdrive aka the weaker one that actually happened 50 years ago that (only) destroyed 1/10th of the world (thanks Shiba).
- Etherion wasn't needed to stop Endless' Overdrive, it was needed to kill Endless himself before the Overdrive went off: True Overdrive (???) >>>>> Full Power Etherion (5-B) >>> Overdrive (probably 6-B or High 6-B) with 2nd key Endless himself somewhere below Full Power Etherion but above the Overdrive.
Pretty much every character is scaling from Elie’s lightning dodge. But the feat itself has a (huge?) problem: Elie never dodged lightning, she dodged electricity.
Also, having characters from the beginning of Rave scaling to a feat from Volume 26 (out of 35) doesn’t really make sense; Silfarion, the third from of Haru’s sword which greatly increase his speed didn't even reach the speed of sound at first. Of course, as the story progressed, Haru became stronger, faster and by the time of his fight against Sieghart in volume 6, he was able to attack at the speed of sound. So yeah, the calc needs to be remade, and we also need a new calc for the Beginning of Series characters.
Light Speed
The God Tiers are currently At least Massively Hypersonic, likely FTL (upscaling from 1) Elie's calc from before and 2) from Shakuma’s light speed attack). The thing is that Shakuma can ATTACK at the speed of light with his Lightning Magic but that’s all. It doesn’t scale to his combat, flight or reactions speed. And there are no proof that anybody else can dodge, react or attack faster than this spell, especially when we don't have much in terms of speed feats in the series. The "likely FTL" rating isn't accurate; Shakuma can be "???? (Faster than Post-Shiba Fight Haru), Speed of Light attack speed with Lightning (Can attack with a Lightning spell that move at the Speed of Light)
TL;DR
- 7-A is based on a mistranslation so it needs to go
- Upgrade Endless’ Overdrive + Adding a key for the Endless before he fused with the Sinclaires
- Either remove or recalc Elie’s electricity dodge feat
- Remove the likely FTL from the top tiers
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