Sorry for late reply I didn't really saw your response until an hour ago.
Because if from their perspective evading lightning would be considered a nigh-impossible feat, then it makes no sense for the majority of the verse to be several times faster than that as of the time they made those statements.
As I said above: "if from their perspective evading lightning would be considered a nigh-impossible feat, then it makes no sense for the majority of the verse to be several times faster than that as of the time they made those statements."
> From what I understand your main points relies on Zetsu and Sasuke's
impossible to evade statement. Then let's clear it first.
This is for hyping a character and it's common. This attack kills in one hit- tanked, you can't react this, reacted, this attack impobssible to avoid, avoided. Whatever Zetsu says Itachi both reacted, tanked and technially evade it.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/evade
Zetsu says
No one can evade this jutsu just like Amaterasu Sasuke run for a short time and technically evaded it and A4 completely evaded it.
Zetsu and Sasuke says it's impossible to evade and Itachi evaded it also mentally reacted.
Now answer this. If we take their statement face value, how do you we trust them on this? How Zetsu knows Itachi's speed or Sasuke's or any other character we introduced later (A4, KB, Madara, Minato) speed to decide that. This characters introuced far later and their feats cames later from this statement. If anything Zetsu statement seens retconned.
Sasuke does know about their capablities seeing as he's been with them since he recruited them and stopped them from fighting each other.
> This doesn't mean he knows their full capabilities. stopped them from fighting each other =/= seeing them in a real life and death situation or seeing their full capabilities and they aren't fightning to begin with as iirc he prevents any fighting. Is he tasted their capabilites? Do you have any proof of it?
Then you must be agreeing with my point then? Killer B travelling in a linear fashion or Sasuke using Sharingan precog doesn't alter the fact the statement from the databook is rendered false.
> What I'm saying is both Bee's Lariat and A4/Bee's Double Lariat is same speed. Databook is as I proved. Instead of saying
it's false try to prove it why it is false from proofs from databook and manga.
Reposting it:
I said basically is
what you try to prove databook entry about Lariat is actually true, The entry mentions Double Lariat is the version that the technique leaves no time at all for opponents to activate a jutsu. Databook entry says that for DL and not Lariat so it correct for whatever reason speed isn't revelant. So, databook entry reliable and with supported by manga.
Also, I want to adress your Sasuke put Bee into Genjutsu argument with new points.
1) Sasuke reacts to 3Tails Bee using Sharingan's precog ability because Bee moving is linear and it makes easier .
2) When Sasuke use Genjutsu on Bee, the man announces himself before it and Sasuke uses MS this time which should increase his precog further than 3T.
And that's a separate topic to what we're discussing.
> It's really revelant to the topic. From what I understand from your points even god-tiers needs to be downgraded below Mach 2k or Kirin calc or something (I don't know) and never able move beyond natural lightning speed or Kirin calc.
About scaling, Pain and Kakashi never scale to A4 or KB really but this for another thread.
