I just really don't think that this does it. If she were, say, 10,000x more powerful would she not also be completely unreachable?
Noted. Let's just agree to disagree.
An explanation given by Cory. In fact, the reason for this was that "Athena and higher plane of existence couldn't even comprehend with their minds (4-D beings) and completely transcended the lower plane and existence and power levels due to Athena's higher existence.
That is indeed correct.
Is this a verbatim quote? Can you link the interview so that it can be confirmed?
You are referring to the interview, if I am not wrong.
These two.
No, unless you want to suggest her dimension is special enough that dimensional travel abilities are not able to enter.
I have no idea what you refer to as "timestamp". I will be glad if you explain.(Bruhh... I understand now)
Yeesh. Dude. You can't just editorialize the evidence when people are being persuaded by things that aren't in any of these videos.
I mean, if that is an explanation that doesn't require QS, then we absolutely shouldn't assume QS. I don't see how "an infinite jump in power" is preferable to a different explanation like "this realm has some property that only allows specific people to enter." In Athena's case, she got there by committing a selfless act.
(they are the same video clip)
I can teach you how to get timestamps.
Oh. I thought you were asking about the timestamps.
Bruh. Higher power, higher plane, higher than everybody else (Includes all the denizens of all the Pantheons), higher realm, the conclusions were all drawn from there plus the other stuff that Planck stated.
These were from some statements, contexts and feats in the game, and I remember the interview was not that much.
Because we are given the perspective that her "apotheosis" granted her power. When we have beings that can't reach this place despite holding infinite potential (Zeus), and even did a similar kind of apotheosis themselves (Fear) and still can't reach it. Starts making you think.
The fact that it's a higher plane isn't what's being contested here dude. Being 100x more powerful than the other gods doesn't mean you're infinitely more powerful than the other gods. The fact is that the concept of it being "unreachable" is being pulled from thin air and being presented as though it were an author statement, notably, to the point of potentially persuading @LephyrTheRevanchist
Stop assigning dimensionality to normal beings. It's super misleading. Where is "unfathomable" coming from?
I can see where they're coming from too, but despite where they're coming from, they clearly aren't making it across the finish line. I wouldn't object to this as a mere perspective or take on the possibilities of situation, but for us to give a character this big of an upgrade, we need more than that.
Also, with him will and endless potential, Kratos can resist and influence all abstractions and forces on same plane of existence, but even this could not make him interact with Athena.
Post the evidence that these phrases come from. If it's a video, write out the pertinent part of the video verbatim. I can no longer take you at your word on evidence, you are adding things.
There are not normal beings, these are primordial beings and these beings are 4-dimensional conceptual abstractions with a universal sized that existed before time, existence and laws.
Yes, and Tanin.
Post the evidence that these phrases come from. If it's a video, write out the pertinent part of the video verbatim. I can no longer take you at your word on evidence, you are adding things. Where in the GoW series was a being called a "4-dimensional conceptual abstraction with a universal size that existed before existence and laws?"
I thought it was for one last comment, not keep spamming.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/issue...-in-god-of-war-downgrade.156098/#post-5915105 view this and the 2 comments that follow.
KLOL had these in-game and with extra emotes about it, and I don't have them unfortunately. And lepyh also explained it
Pretty sure the "infinitely more powerful" arguments were already addressed by Tanin so I don't see the point in discussing this further.
Jesus dude, calm down, no need to get so tensed.
What's that supposed to mean?
Pretty sure it was argued as being pure semantics, but whatever. We'll let the other staff decide. You're just one vote in the discussion.
Just look at the primordials profiles...
He's just reiterating what Planck elaborated upon in his original upgrade thread. The "unable to sense, interact with or even reach the level of Athena" part that is.
Oh crazy. The evidence mysteriously disappears again.
And I addressed those arguments. We are assuming an infinite increase in power, there's no evidence of one.
Calling it "semantics" when it's pointed out that there's no actual evidence doesn't really change the fact that there's no actual evidence.
This is a debate. You have to provide evidence for your claims. Don't just describe to me where you think the evidence might be.
Great, what were the scans or statements that said those things?
This is incorrect, btw. I have my own interpretation and conclusions, based exclusively on the game and its narrative.
He demands a direct statement of qualitative superiority for "qualitative superiority", but no standard justifies it. Unfortunately, there is no evidence for what he said
