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Isekai at Peace Discussion Thread

I was thinking of doing my own attempt on the Kaori creating a tsunami feat for fun.
So I'll be using the 2010 Mentawai Tsunami (Indonesia) with a wave height of about 2 to 5 meters tall. The tsunami is still deadly and destructive and it's in the average range of tsunami sizes.
  • Wave height range: ~2 m (low) to 5 m (high)
  • Approximate wave front width: 50 km (50,000 m)
  • Approximate wavelength: 50 km (50,000 m)
  • Water Density: 1000 kg/m^3
Calculating volume of water: V = width x height x length
  • Low-end: Wave height of 2m - 5 x 10^9
  • Mid-end: Wave height of 3.5 - 8.75 x 10^9
  • High end: Wave height of 5 - 1.25 x 10^10
Calculating mass of water: m = V x p = V x 1000 kg/m^3
  • Low-end: 5 x 10^12 kg
  • Mid-end: 8.75 x 10^12 kg
  • High-end: 1.25 x 10^13 kg
Calculating energy to create water mass from scratch: E = mc^2
  • Low-end: 4,5 x 10^29 joules - 5-C Moon level
  • Mid-end: 7.9 x 10^29 joules - 5-C Moon level
  • High-end: 1.13 x 10^30 joules - 5-C Moon level
The results are really volatile if you change the basic data such as the height, width, and length of the wave. I found that the Mentawai Tsunami could be as high as 7 to 9.3 meters for example. Wave width and wavelength too, found that they could be 100km. I used 50km for conservative approaches.

Moon level High-ranking demons would be mad funny tho. It's the kind of feat that's really abusable.
 
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I can't do that since I don't have the exact values of the Mentawai Tsunami (well they have a lot of variation so you can't blame me for that) nor am I an expert at doing calcs, plus I don't know how to make blogposts so rip.
 
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The struggle of calculations. At some point, ai will begin to teach us non calc members a jist of how to do these so well that we can do it ourselves without needing to wait so long.

I wish I knew what to do, when it came to certain calcs. Looks like something you adjust to/learn overtime when it comes to scaling, if you are rlly dedicated to working on a series
 
I can make a blog, but I don't know much about he calc, have to post them on the calc eval thread or even ask the calc mod to evaluate it myself

In any case, that was most certainly high balled lol, but worth the shot
 
So seems smurf hax doesn't exist below 1-A.

Authorities are going to have higher dimensional range, and layers of hax I assume, will have to update the sandbox i was working on.
 
Don't the layers they had previously kinda just stay the same? Except with range?' If not though, what additional layers would they get?
 
In ISAP, lower dimensional abilities don't work on higher dimensional beings so you need range + a layer to affect each dimensional level. ie a 4-D being has a layer of hax and resistance compared to a 3-D, same for 5-D, and 4-D, there would be another layer, another layer for 6-D, and 5-D etc.

Isis magic power of death was 6-D for affecting Kaito, but there is a whole argument over the mechanics of that, which I am not going to get into here, but taking things at face value you could say her passive hax has 2 layers? There is a whole argument about passive vs active, with whole stuff about the 6 Kings "resisting" her active hax, but all that has to be analyzed.
 
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That CRT I will probably revisit WC resistances as well. Shiro and Kuro have a special relationship, for example the passive powernull doesn't scale to other WC, that is stated to only happen because the 2 were once 1 being, that said they do still resist each others power, and then there is Eden who can perfectly impersonate Shiro to such an extent even Shiro's other half, Kuro, couldn't tell the difference, this is enough to say resistances amongst these beings who can "almost do anything" scales. The same would apply to the Omnipotents "who can do anything".

That said the whole statement about all the abilities of a lower dimensional being not affecting a higher dimensional being pretty much means everyone who is higher D has resistance to everything which is lower D, so even Fate who is 5-D would have resistances to every single non-authority ability, which would be a long list, and a pain to put all on the profiles.
 
There are massive updates, because I ignored the verse for a year lol.

Also rethinking what I said, if the characters are genuinely higher D, the wiki's general assumption would be lower D stuff doesn't work because of a lack of range, so yes the higher D characters can resist stuff from the lower D, but that comes due to their higher D nature, so the resistances wouldn't be listed unless the abilities can affect higher D beings ie like Alice resisting Chronois time hax, that would be layer/layers of resistance to time manipulation.
 
Oh right, getting into the whole passive vs active thing for isis, imo it still makes sense. I mean her passive magic power is potent enough,but to actively target am individual to have them specifically die seems more potent. And I recall she can condense her magic power too to be stronger.

When Isis became furious as Kaito was threatened, she purposefully unleashes her magic power, killing the area and all the targeted animals. Immediate, as opposed to her passive, and to the point even Kaito felt a bit of after effects from what I remember(didnt he pass out? Or was that from being injured). Requires some backtracking, it would be like 3 layers
 
Legacy30 said:
I was thinking of doing my own attempt on the Kaori creating a tsunami feat for fun.
So I'll be using the 2010 Mentawai Tsunami (Indonesia) with a wave height of about 2 to 5 meters tall. The tsunami is still deadly and destructive and it's in the average range of tsunami sizes.
  • Wave height range: ~2 m (low) to 5 m (high)
  • Approximate wave front width: 50 km (50,000 m)
  • Approximate wavelength: 50 km (50,000 m)
  • Water Density: 1000 kg/m^3
Calculating volume of water: V = width x height x length
  • Low-end: Wave height of 2m - 5 x 10^9
  • Mid-end: Wave height of 3.5 - 8.75 x 10^9
  • High end: Wave height of 5 - 1.25 x 10^10
Calculating mass of water: m = V x p = V x 1000 kg/m^3
  • Low-end: 5 x 10^12 kg
  • Mid-end: 8.75 x 10^12 kg
  • High-end: 1.25 x 10^13 kg
Calculating energy to create water mass from scratch: E = mc^2
  • Low-end: 4,5 x 10^29 joules - 5-C Moon level
  • Mid-end: 7.9 x 10^29 joules - 5-C Moon level
  • High-end: 1.13 x 10^30 joules - 5-C Moon level
The results are really volatile if you change the basic data such as the height, width, and length of the wave. I found that the Mentawai Tsunami could be as high as 7 to 9.3 meters for example. Wave width and wavelength too, found that they could be 100km. I used 50km for conservative approaches.

Moon level High-ranking demons would be mad funny tho. It's the kind of feat that's really abusable.
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btw, made the blog for this calculation
 
Enter_Bluey said:
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Definitely on the part about Isis actively targeting people with her magic power of death being more potent.
[Well, using it is quite tiring, so not many people stay in such a state all the time. Shalltear-sama uses it when she’s going incognito. Meanwhile, Isis-sama’s magic power is too powerful and it seems like she couldn’t completely control it? Well, her magic power is more intimidating when she’s releasing it…… For their dignity, it seems that Megiddo-sama and Magnawell-sama weren’t holding back their magic power.]
~chapter 495
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Condensing her magic power to make it more potent was in the LN. It happened when she used her Domain Expansion on Life to kill her even through her no concept of death immortality.
Noneless21 said:
btw, made the blog for this calculation
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I will have to redo the calc using some different approaches since I asked this from Bambu.
 
Being the Special Individual Winged, possessing black wings, her ability at a young age was also overwhelmingly better than her peers. She was stronger than any of the Wingeds in the past, and by the time she was 500 years old, her power was already comparable to a Peerage-holding Demon.
~1176
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However, Amel is the Special Individual Winged, a being with power comparable to Peerage holders, of which there are currently only four among the Humans.

Her flying speed is on a whole different level compared to other members of her species and ordinary dragons.

Amel’s flying speed is approximately “Mach 245”, or over 300,000 km per hour. The time for preparations had been included in the time she had given to Kaito, so even though she said it would take about 5 minutes, it would actually take her less than 3 minutes to travel from the residence of the Wingeds to the Royal Capital.
~chapter 1189
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I don't believe Amel's peerage title has been mentioned yet? If so, this speed would be within the standards of a Baron currently.

The physiology doc is almost complete on my end too.

Some other fun little tidbits I found.
The reason why it is said that “Count-ranks = National strength” is because all three Human kingdoms employ peerage-holders
~chapter 703
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I thought it was stated that there are four people in the Human Realm who are Count ranked, which are Lilia, Laguna, Fors and Amel
 
Noneless21 said:
I thought it was stated that there are four people in the Human Realm who are Count ranked, which are Lilia, Laguna, Fors and Amel
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It was stated to be four peerage holders in the Human Realm. So not counts specifically iirc.

For the tsunami calc, we should do the UES crt first before it so that we'd have a higher chance of getting the mass-conversation formula accepted. Btw noneless, you should mention that the verse uses a UES in the blog. High 6-A seems okay, but calcs could've gotten us 5-B Planet tier.

……Isn’t that Luminax…… Moreover, it’s in its Final Phase. If I recall correctly, it was an incredibly dangerous Golem that moved at a speed so fast that even Peak Count-ranks couldn’t perceive, being the strongest Golem in the Six Kings Dungeon aside from Kuro’s Golem.
~chapter 1584
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Wonder how fast Six Kings will be when a golem that has some of their power can blitz Peak Counts. Polaris is in the mid ranks of Peak Counts, so that'll be insane no doubt.

A Six King Golem is technically considered a Peak Count-rank…… but as it possesses an exceptionally high amount of magic power, the current Duke-ranks, with a few exceptions, are generally unable to contend against it.
~chapter 1584
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This confirms that you need the strength of a Duke to fight a Six King Golem.

The physiology doc is complete now. When the page is created, it should be titled "Peerage Ranking System."
 
That is very epic, my only gripe is with the intangibility being marked as powernull tbh. Since with Isis, we can see attacks go through her specifically...so the "nullified" here implies being made useless. As opposed to actually being nullified, like an actual powernull ability. Cause there'd be no point in the other two really. That, plus Spatial annihilation being marked as EE, since it implies destroying said space. Not really "erasing it's existence" tbh.

Also should basic magic include elementals and stuff? Like dark, light, water. There's also mental interference, thought disruption (I imagine these interrupt magic spells and fighters. Which it's why it's important to have an ability to process lots at once), pressure (gravity Mavic pretty sure)
 
Stuff like speed and stamina shouldn't be in a physiology page, but yea you would then need to put this in a blog and make it look presentable like this.


Once you have that, you can make a CRT to then make it an official page, and add it to the profiles.
 
Legacy30 said:
The physiology blog is complete. Someone else can make a CRT for it because I am not equipped to make edits on a wiki like this one please don't give more work to do

The Viscount section man, it's not even barebones, it's almost NOTHING 😭

If you see something wrong in there, be sure to let me know.
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that's really good, and yeah the Viscount had nothing is because there's like, only 1 named Viscount, which is Caraway and she evolved into Count ranked
 
Idk about generic Counts having duplication, Illness can do it cause she is a Count sure, but she is a Peak Count, and even Iris had to learn how to create clones despite being Peak Count Rank, she didn't have it before when she was upper, so think it's a Peak Count ability.

Still not really convinced Peak Count Ranks can return magic into harmless power ie Power Modification. Causality negation is also iffy, statement there is referring to the 6 Kings, you can assume that cause all Peaks can regen, they would have a way to bypass it, but it's never really directly stated or shown, mostly cause they never seriously try and permanently kill each other, Polaris regenerated fine after Iris attack, Sirus vs Agni was similar etc.

Anyway once it's accepted I can make the official page look better in terms of references and what not, and have no problem applying the edits, since I was already going to do that.
 
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Also martial arts based on an Illness feat, who is not only Peak Count Rank, but a skilled martial artist who regularly spars with Ozma who as one of Megiddo's General is one of the most skilled martial artist in the Demon Realm, yea think that should be removed.

Regeneration Negation based on what evidence though? The same statement that Count Ranks are immortal and need recovery obstruction to prevent them fron regenerating? I guess, It's not outright stated that they imbue their attacks with recovery obstruction, but more that unless you do, they just regenerate, it's kinda implied. Maybe a possible rating is fine.
 
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