Isekai at Peace Discussion Thread

[Enter_Bluey]

The top have changed around a lot its kinda funny. Well, only recently actually. Then it became a consistent stalemate between the two "ends", and the other said blonde individiual had some potential no one wanted to mess with

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Still marvel at the progression of this series, from me hearing about it having universal feats, being skeptical, capping them at planet level, then actual universal feats show up, and then Low 1-C, then 1-C, then 1-A.

Like nobody would be looking at a slice of life series to be doing this, and if the supporters of the verse on this site didn't follow it, while being mildly surprised with the power escalation along the way, Shiro wouldn't really be as big of thing in power scaling discussions on the web.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

She wouldn't be, and people would probably think the verse is just about powerscaling. Well..people still think that if they don't follow it lol. But it's the exact opposite really. And now the whole system changed, just making it even better for her. Looks like Shiro really decides what the end is. At this point I am beginning to think any tier 0 jokes will just become reality like everything else

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Eh from my understanding a tier 0 has to be unchangeable, so Shiro being the consciousness which sprouted at some point within The Epilogue's eternal existence probably shuts down that possibility, but could be wrong.

 

[Noneless21]

Eh from my understanding a tier 0 has to be unchangeable, so Shiro being the consciousness which sprouted at some point within The Epilogue's eternal existence probably shuts down that possibility, but could be wrong.

Or we can make another key for her, because Shiro and the Epilogue is a same but different kind of deal

The author even states that while they're the same, they're still different entity

Still tho, tier 0 Shiro will be pretty funny, not as funny as when Kaito got slingshot to the sky castle tho

 

[Noneless21]

She wouldn't be, and people would probably think the verse is just about powerscaling. Well..people still think that if they don't follow it lol. But it's the exact opposite really. And now the whole system changed, just making it even better for her. Looks like Shiro really decides what the end is. At this point I am beginning to think any tier 0 jokes will just become reality like everything else

I'm beginning to be convinced that Shiro actually exist irl and actively trolling us

 

[Enter_Bluey]

I'm beginning to be convinced that Shiro actually exist irl and actively trolling us

She is...also isn't shiros true form the epilogue, did something new get told? Last I remember the epilogue is its own entity technically while she's a world creator, but reaching her true form is that entity? Though another key probably wouldn't work since they are basically the same now

Eh from my understanding a tier 0 has to be unchangeable, so Shiro being the consciousness which sprouted at some point within The Epilogue's eternal existence probably shuts down that possibility, but could be wrong.

Oh wait so the epilogue made her and she became the epilogue? Well yeah at that point I'm not sure

 

[BoastJr]

Shiro never falling from Tier 1A is relatively hilarious. We should let the Author cook more.

She wouldn't be, and people would probably think the verse is just about powerscaling.

Dude.. they just look at Shiro's profile and think that

its really just funny words thats supposed to sound cool but like most of the stuff in Yuusha is tame. The few times the series does go to that direction is when it talks about mountains being blown up or some funky stealth magic. Alas, I think people are just allergic to good literature if they so much as find one weird passage.

 

[BoastJr]

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Personally I think there should be 3 Keys.

Creation God / Incomplete form || Ultimate End / Complete form || Epilogue. Something to that effect.

What's funny is and what most people do not realise is that... Kuromueina is technically the strongest in the series RN if we take their Ultimate End forms into account via Funny WoG strength ranking.

But back to the topic, I do think the Epilogue and Shiro should be seperated just like how Yogiri is an avater of his true form.

With Epilogue being omnipresent in the series it makes more sense to me although I think it could be worthwhile to discuss this.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Im probably a little behind on it but if her true form is the epilogue anyway idk if the next key is really necessary. The epilogue having its own will seems to matter when she's in her world creator state, and it can act on its own if Shiro can't. Other than that though, it seems like her true form already is indeed the epilogue. She even refers to herself as the end. Even if we confirm a will of Shiro which was birthed, and then epilogue which has a "will", to me it seems Shiro is what is mainly focused on, and it's heavily considered her ability. Unless we the epilogue itself gets like some kind of different profile...which seems more like something that would happen instead for a situation like this

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Shiro never falling from Tier 1A is relatively hilarious. We should let the Author cook more.


Dude.. they just look at Shiro's profile and think that

its really just funny words thats supposed to sound cool but like most of the stuff in Yuusha is tame. The few times the series does go to that direction is when it talks about mountains being blown up or some funky stealth magic. Alas, I think people are just allergic to good literature if they so much as find one weird passage.

The issue really is that there's so little of it and yet people consistently call it powerscaling just from not reading. It can happen a lot, when actually this series is very fleshed out even with its abilities. Even with something like awlba the last what 3 chapters are actually where all that comes in? And a few pages in the LN lol. Stuff can get crazy with these novels but very briefly

 

[BoastJr]

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The Journey is more important then some of the content. The Authors for both series genuinely seem to try and write a story that can function on itself without some generic mathematic/philosophy jargon BS that seems pretentious. They are quick to call things as such because of the wrong exposure.

People should just stick to reading things for its narrative and story first and not some weird reason such as powerscaling.


Anyways I hope people discover either works via genuine interest and appreciate it for that before hopping on to the Vs Battle train. Would do the series good.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Another key sounds unnecessary, though I get the idea since the Epilogue also has a will of its own.

Kind of complicated to think about, the Epilogue has always existed, and Shiro is a will that was born within it, that will, Shiro, went around ending worlds, met Eden, then split herself creating Kuro. Shiro + Kuro combined=what was there before, but at the same time The Epilogue also has a will of its own.

Don't see the benefit in making the distinctions, it's not going to change anything tiering wise, or abilities wise, unless the author decides to dive into to these distinctions and do some wild stuff like The Epilogue has always exists, it's in everything, and everything returns to it, descriptions, limits etc are all meaningless to it, while Shiro is manifestation of it.

In other words some wild stuff where The Epilogue is like tier 0, while the Shiro is 1-A. Until then don't see the need for another key.

 

[BoastJr]

Now that pegasus has said it, it will eventually become a reality one day. Let's not jinx it tho xD.


Btw just to let you guys know. Yuusha Shoukan was nominated for "You Should Read this Manga Award" on Mal. The series seems to be getting traction offsite. Things seem to be looking up for the series from here on out.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

The Journey is more important then some of the content. The Authors for both series genuinely seem to try and write a story that can function on itself without some generic mathematic/philosophy jargon BS that seems pretentious. They are quick to call things as such because of the wrong exposure.

People should just stick to reading things for its narrative and story first and not some weird reason such as powerscaling.


Anyways I hope people discover either works via genuine interest and appreciate it for that before hopping on to the Vs Battle train. Would do the series good.

Me too, it's nice when people have actually read it. You really learn to appreciate the characters. Alice was always my favorite

Another key sounds unnecessary, though I get the idea since the Epilogue also has a will of its own.

Kind of complicated to think about, the Epilogue has always existed, and Shiro is a will that was born within it, that will, Shiro, went around ending worlds, met Eden, then split herself creating Kuro. Shiro + Kuro combined=what was there before, but at the same time The Epilogue also has a will of its own.

Don't see the benefit in making the distinctions, it's not going to change anything tiering wise, or abilities wise, unless the author decides to dive into to these distinctions and do some wild stuff like The Epilogue has always exists, it's in everything, and everything returns to it, descriptions, limits etc are all meaningless to it, while Shiro is manifestation of it.

In other words some wild stuff where The Epilogue is like tier 0, while the Shiro is 1-A. Until then don't see the need for another key.

I agree, seems pretty unnecessary unless the epilogue is treated completely separate in relevant ways. It may have its own "'will", but we've only seen that come up really when Shiro is separate and not in her complete form. Right now she certainly is the epilogue anyway. But it does get complicated. She basically split herself twice. I'm not even sure of the epilogue becomes 0 cause she is still the Epilogue...unless like she is their will becomes acting separately even when complete

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

1-A thread is opened now, it will most likely be good.

What are the chances the LN buffs Shiro like it has buffed everyone else

Scary to think that could possibly happen, I put no expectations on that, but wouldn't be shocked, speaking of that need to make some more LN profiles, but gonna be awhile before I get to it.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Textbook 1-A moment. It's mostly what I said or was thinking about the statements.

And seems as if the LN does buff them in terms of versatilities of their abilities and feats. Thing is epilogue doesn't have too many feats mostly statements cause nothing will ever challenge it so there's no point to think about it. With that being though..it's very possible. If it gives more clearer wording or something

 

[Noneless21]

it's hard enough to get statement/feat from Yuushou, the Epilogue is an even bigger mystery

 

[BoastJr]

To answer Orireem's question.

Nebula is weird to argue. At most she seems to be just 7D/8D however taking statements such as Makina lvl World Creators being able to freely create dimensions and how Hekantonkheires lvl RE is said to be infinite and along those lines.

Maybe you can argue something with Nebula being unreachable to the other characters in series ? Those character overtime can reach x or y level in 1-B potentially ?

Wish her encompass ability got expanded because encompassing the entire cosmology could lead to something.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Large Size type 11 no longer exist and 1A is beyond size itself so remove it on my girl

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Fixed.

 

[Noneless21]

Ain't Mamakina's tier for her Abyss Tartarus and her true form should be straight 1-C?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Yea, 6-D is now 1-C.

 

[Noneless21]

Yea, 6-D is now 1-C.

Well it's still low 1-C possibly 1-C,, you want me to fix it?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Eh, I can do it later, since the profiles are closed.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

If A Wild Last Boss can get an anime 5 years after it's LN is over, I think it's only a matter of time for this series to get one.

 

[Noneless21]

If A Wild Last Boss can get an anime 5 years after it's LN is over, I think it's only a matter of time for this series to get one.

I'm skeptical whether should I be rejoice if Isekai at Peace got an anime or worried because the fact that if Isekai at Peace got an anime means more powerscaler will ********** due to Shiro stronk

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Being realistic, first season would be a 12 episode anime, and it getting more after that, depends on if it's popular, though I have seen a lot of mediocre stuff get multiple seasons.

The power scaling stuff for Shiro wouldn't be a thing present in the anime for long time, like typical 12 episode anime adapts 3-4 LN volume, and even like 14 volumes in? The Epilogue hasn't been established. Isekai at Peace is a slice of life series.

A Wild Last Boss is whole other case, 2-3 seasons of like 24-36 episodes can adapt the whole thing, and it has plenty of action, and dbz-esque fights, it's a power scalers wet dream.

Anyway back to this series, just finished off a VN, and got 3 more volumes left for Wild Boss, I suppose I will get back into this WN soon. Kind of contemplating it, I want to re-read another series which has a new volume out in October I think, I could wait, but since the series has 1-A potential, don't want to wait too long, to where the 1-A thread doesn't get any attention.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

This can certainly get an anime maybe even soon. I feel people would consider it slow but that's good. Maybe it would reach like Alice vs Eden introduce the might of world creators and end off somewhere around there.

 

[BoastJr]

Isekai at Peace does not have much fights although there is a few Sasuga moments.

Kuro annihilating the wyverns, Isis killing the entire Black Bear population and so on. If S1 is 12 episodes it likely ends at rigforeshia. If its 24 episodes there is a good chance we get to V6 where things kick off with the War.

Alice vs Eden which would be at Season 3 would be a major DBZ esque fight if animated properly.

The only real major fights are Illness vs Funf and Megiddo's camp vs Kaito.

Maybe the author will readjust things for the anime since he is hyping up Baron and Count ranks iirc.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

When UBF is up the RE to hax is considered instant? Or just very quick? I rmbr the physical part not being that

 

[Noneless21]

When UBF is up the RE to hax is considered instant? Or just very quick? I rmbr the physical part not being that

Wut?

The RE kicks in right after Alice got hit with hax iirc, it did react to time stop after all

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Wut?

The RE kicks in right after Alice got hit with hax iirc, it did react to time stop after all

What I meant is like the speed it would gain resistance to hax. Forgot if it was considered instant here

 

[Noneless21]

What I meant is like the speed it would gain resistance to hax. Forgot if it was considered instant here

maybe? well it reacted to time stop so logically it gives Alice resistance instantly

 

[BoastJr]

Hmm wouldn't UBF be exponential in growth rather then linear ?

If Makina states that their fight would result in a Tug of War if she shows signs of harming kaito and Alice just instantly jumps up to her level (when previously she was almost passively defeated by 0% Makina)

UBF is also stated to have infinite growth and evolution meaning there is no exact limitation for it

 

[Enter_Bluey]

maybe? well it reacted to time stop so logically it gives Alice resistance instantly

Idrk if that makes it instant why I asked. I think it would be tho? Maybe I'm wanking?!

Hmm wouldn't UBF be exponential in growth rather then linear ?

If Makina states that their fight would result in a Tug of War if she shows signs of harming kaito and Alice just instantly jumps up to her level (when previously she was almost passively defeated by 0% Makina)

UBF is also stated to have infinite growth and evolution meaning there is no exact limitation for it

In the right situation it just means she will grow more stronger and rapidly than others. So it's just very situational, but not sure what u mean by linear and exponentional. Considering she jumps up to world creator level and all. But ig in a battle between them it's hard to tell between them usually. Like she would lose to Makina and maybe other beyond omnipotents in most situations. In the rare situations it probably becomes very absurd and will surpass others growth.

So is it exponential? I mean...I would've thought so already (cant help but think of saitama talking about this), but by HOW much is what would vary ig. The whole point is still to become someone who will win against an opponent and their categories l. But the story stresses that it will be eventually, and I think that's why it's infinite growth and evolution. Because the growth will vary, and she can reach it but is that hope and mindset strong enough to tap into it all, no limit or not. I meanshe needs to get passived in the first place other wise it'll be hard, tho crazy hax characters with wild stuff and hax do exist of course to challenge it head on. Either in most she will keep fighting till it's eventually a win (could be more linear in that case with ap and stuff? But rlly depends on the person), or she's protecting Kaito. In that case I'm not rlly assuming instant, but certainly very large jumps to the point it overpowers others and the rate they also do it.

 

[BoastJr]

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Whats strange is Alice has been stated to create a possibility where she eventually wins out.

Against someone like Nebula's stature who is always +1 against her opponent would it mean that

1) Alice could eventually overpower Nebula ?

2) Nebula just grows indefinitely and outside Alice's reach

3) Nebula is always unreachable to Alice via being a "Outlier" (to a lesser degree then shiro)

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Whats strange is Alice has been stated to create a possibility where she eventually wins out.

Against someone like Nebula's stature who is always +1 against her opponent would it mean that

1) Alice could eventually overpower Nebula ?

2) Nebula just grows indefinitely and outside Alice's reach

3) Nebula is always unreachable to Alice via being a "Outlier" (to a lesser degree then shiro)

I would assume she just can't reach Nebula given the nature of her ability. Though Nebula herself also has to get it off pretty sure. But once Nebula does it she's already beyond Alice reach and takes UBF and her abilities for herself so...I don't think it's even a fighting chance in that case. Like there is no overpowering Nebula here ngl. Unless author says otherwise.

I think if someone were to seriously challenge Nebulas ability successfully after she +1 them they have already won and would need to be pretty crazy

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

In the near future I want to do a re-read of the WN, and then the LN.

How soon is that? Idk, after I get through fixing AWLBA, Isekai Maou and Re:Zero. But hopefully in the next few months. I really want to get back to this.

 

[Noneless21]

In the near future I want to do a re-read of the WN, and then the LN.

How soon is that? Idk, after I get through fixing AWLBA, Isekai Maou and Re:Zero. But hopefully in the next few months. I really want to get back to this.

You should, there's tons of things coming up

Spoiler

like Kaito's second birthday