Is there a version of superman freeza saga ssj goku can beat?

[KinkiestSins]

I have been wondering this recently because of the death battle (Shoutout to ben for nlf).

I am aware most supermans are mftl+ and in the 4-B range, and I was curious what version, if any, can goku beat?

Note: This is not a vs thread, just an interesting what if on dbz powerscaling before it became bananas.

Edit: For the sake of simplification, this is the context that speed is not equalized and just stat comparison more then anything, minus abilities and fighting potential on both sides.

 

[FanofRPGs]

He can really only beat the very weak versions

It would take SSJ3 Kai Goku, or post-regen God Goku to beat Superman. He had some legitmately good feats, before DBS took a ******* and basically became PIS central

 

[KinkiestSins]

He can really only beat the very weak versions

It would take SSJ3 Kai Goku, or post-regen God Goku to beat Superman. He had some legitmately good feats, before DBS took a ******* and basically became PIS central

Yeah, I can understand why dc vs dbz is banned since this matchup is what most people think about and it just becomes more bonkers the longer both characters exist. Ironically, I think goku was more consistent early on in db and dbz, and superman got more consistent the older his comic ran.

/flashbacks of precrisis superman pop up.

 

[FanofRPGs]

Dragon Ball Super started consistent, and then just went crazy. I am hearing Toriyama currently even is working more on the Manga and puts little to no imput on the anime anymore, so what's currently happening might be non-canon, but we can't just shift canon like that. At this point, Goku vs Superman is a terrible matchup.

Proving every single way and method Seiya beats Superman is where its at.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

King Piccolo arc Goku would beat Superman (DCAU). Frieza Saga SSJ Goku would solo the DCAU minus evolved Amazo. He would also solo the DC Extended Universe.

 

[Schnee_One]

Anything below Post Crisis Goku can beat.

Post Crisis or above Goku loses.

 

[KinkiestSins]

This is of course minus any superman hax we are not taking into account I assume.

Kind of surprised how strong superman variants are. I think most are in tier 4 or 3.


@FanofRPGs Honestly dont like super, dropped it entirely I considered watching saint seiya to start a new long running manga/anime.

 

[Schnee_One]

Dude, read saint seiya.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Dude, read saint seiya.

I really should, I already liked the premise I just want to find a legal way to read it tbh. I should try and look for manga volumes for the series. Not that I dont wanna watch it, but I think the manga might be cheaper?? But I really should.