is 8 bit threater allowed in the wiki

[Agnaa]

Also also, even TV Tropes says that 8-Bit Theater is fanfiction.

 

[Livinmeme]

is not a fan fiction you have to givme proves that and i give enough proves that is not and is classified as a parody

 

[Agnaa]

What was your proof that it's not fan fiction, sorry?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

You really haven't you listed tv tropes as a source, said source calls it a fanfiction...

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

This is like having robot chicken profiles

 

[Livinmeme]

What was your proof that it's not fan fiction, sorry?

Because the difference between fan fiction and 8BIT is that fan fiction cannot be sustained without the original material, unlike 8BIT, which differently creates its own cosmology and the only thing it borrows are sprites.(which can be argued that it can be classified as free use) and that the parts of the story are to parody them there is a big difference between parody and fan fiction you can understand

 

[Livinmeme]

you know we better do a separate thread about fan fiction and what not classified as fan fiction

 

[Armorchompy]

No, we shouldn't, you're the only one insisting on this, and I'm pretty sure you're trying your hardest not to understand it.

 

[Livinmeme]

No, we shouldn't, you're the only one insisting on this, and I'm pretty sure you're trying your hardest not to understand it.

okay so you are saying that i ignored most of his argument who to begin they are not arguments you trie to invalid my argument saying yeah we dont care about that so givme argumentes real who is not fallacies please

 

[Agnaa]

Other fanfiction can be sustained without the original material, as I showed above. Other fanfiction can have its own cosmology while still being fanfiction, there's a lot of OP fanfiction like that. 8BIT borrows more than sprites, it borrows entire characters, only changing their personalities. The sprites can't be classified as "free use" but that's a little too nuanced of an argument to get now so I'll ignore it. Parts of the story being there to parody doesn't stop it from being fanfiction, a lot of fanfiction is a parody too.

 

[Livinmeme]

a also there was a 8BIT threather shop so yeah

 

[Armorchompy]

As I was saying, can someone close this?

 

[Livinmeme]

Other fanfiction can be sustained without the original material, as I showed above. Other fanfiction can have its own cosmology while still being fanfiction, there's a lot of OP fanfiction like that. 8BIT borrows more than sprites, it borrows entire characters, only changing their personalities. The sprites can't be classified as "free use" but that's a little too nuanced of an argument to get now so I'll ignore it. Parts of the story being there to parody doesn't stop it from being fanfiction, a lot of fanfiction is a parody too.

okay so you are saying that the character are the same even when they are completelly diferent with complete diferent motivation powers dinamics

 

[Livinmeme]

also the point of the history dont even make sense because is a parody

 

[Agnaa]

Yes, they have the same sprite and name and are obviously based on the original. There are tons of abridged series and AU fanfics that give characters different motivations and power dynamics.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

As I was saying, can someone close this?

Don't we still need to discuss red vs blue or is that different enough to be allowed?

 

[Livinmeme]

Yes, they have the same sprite and name and are obviously based on the original. There are tons of abridged series and AU fanfics that give characters different motivations and power dynamics.

so they are not the same character

 

[Livinmeme]

also im pretty sure a fan fiction stop being fan fiction if had a shop

 

[Livinmeme]

also that tv tropes classifies as fan fiction is weird especially when the tropes of 8BIT are classfied they are put in webcomics who they are completelly diferent from fan fiction

 

[Agnaa]

so they are not the same character

We still consider it fanfiction. We don't need profiles for every abridged series and Undertale AU out there.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Not really fanfiction in other countries is usually more celebrated/well known, japan has full on market places where fans go to sell their fan comics/material. Certain people are well known for their fan creations as the copyright laws there aren't quite as stringent.

 

[Livinmeme]

also the elements of the history is from parodiest they dont take directly parts of the history

 

[Yellowpig10]

Yes, they have the same sprite and name and are obviously based on the original. There are tons of abridged series and AU fanfics that give characters different motivations and power dynamics.

so they are not the same character

So the mr. Popo in abridged is a totally different character too, right? By this logic he would have to be

 

[Livinmeme]

Yes, they have the same sprite and name and are obviously based on the original. There are tons of abridged series and AU fanfics that give characters different motivations and power dynamics.

so they are not the same character

So the mr. Popo in abridged is a totally different character too, right? By this logic he would have to be

technically

 

[Livinmeme]

there is a huge dirence betwen fan fiction:who is a story who takes parts from other pieces of fiction and fan fiction parody:who parody but can hold by self

fan fiction:who parodies a genere of a work but they can hold by self by that logic gintama will be a fan fiction because most of his jokes are based in other works

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

So moving on as I feel the last post speaks for itself, how are we on red vs blue? Do we have any verse supporters here that can help us define if it should be allowed?

 

[Livinmeme]

as long as they differ enough they cannot be classified fan fiction

 

[Yellowpig10]

There are numerous fanfictions that can hold up on their own regardless of the original content and that doesn't stop them from being fanfics

 

[Livinmeme]

So moving on as I feel the last post speaks for itself, how are we on red vs blue? Do we have any verse supporters here that can help us define if it should be allowed?

you should ask weekly i dont know if anything about RvB

 

[Agnaa]

We don't have an exemption for fan fiction parodies.

Gintama has jokes that reference other works, but the characters are purely original.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

@livinmeme Thats just factually incorrect but I don't see anyway to get through to you on this, you are either being willfully obtuse or you really don't understand the issue. either way Id like to stop wasting time on this and move on to discussing another verse that would be effected by this.

 

[Agnaa]

@Pen Weekly was defending it but hasn't responded in a while. Bambu thinks it barely references Halo but doesn't care if it gets deleted, and so hasn't come here.

 

[Livinmeme]

We don't have an exemption for fan fiction parodies.
Gintama has jokes that reference other works, but the characters are purely original.

also 8BIT the only thing are the sprites and no the history is not the same is a parody when everybody is stupid or tries to be joseph bootleg

 

[Agnaa]

That isn't enough. Some abridged series like Friendship is Witchcraft do literally all of those things, but they're not allowed because they're still fanfiction.

 

[Livinmeme]

@livinmeme Thats just factually incorrect but I don't see anyway to get through to you on this, you are either being willfully obtuse or you really don't understand the issue. either way Id like to stop wasting time on this and move on to discussing another verse that would be effected by this.

okay explain the problem because i explain that is a parody who in the time has a shop who difirences enough to not be considered a fan fiction and also the character who are drastaclly diferent from the final fantasy

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Hmmm if the supporters aren't defending it...Leaves us in a bit of an awkward spot, on one hand Id hate to delete it if it really did match our guidlines... on the other Ive yet to see a strong argument for it in this thread beyond it's refrences not being that heavy something that seems to have been contradicted with the information about blood gulch, and the place that one character trained....I suppose we could always delete it and restore the pages if an argument pops up.

 

[Livinmeme]

i give my points who are literally saced from the definition of fan fiction

 

[Agnaa]

But there's a lot of ******* pages, it's been less than a day, and RvB has survived through threads like this before. If this thread is too derailed we could start a new one about it, or just try to stop the conversation about 8BIT.

 

[Livinmeme]

also by that logic SCP will not be a fan fiction

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

okay explain the problem because i explain that is a parody who in the time has a shop who difirences enough to not be considered a fan fiction and also the character who are drastaclly diferent from the final fantasy

Having a shop is meaningless, as stated previously other countries have a very different take on fanfiction and fan creations then we do. Allowing people to profit off fannon and fancreations is far more normalized in other areas of the world. Heck japan practically celebrates them.