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Irene Belserion vs. Maou Sadao

Irene has flight as well and teleportaion is worthless if she enchants his clothing and he doesn't have any desicive hax that allows him to finish the battle fast plus you assume only he would dodge Irene can easily dodge anything he throws at her and even debuff his attacks while he getting hit by a single attacks ends the battle.

He stomped high 7-A characters that are slower than he is so they had big trouble at hitting him but as you said this is speed equalised and I didn't talk about you wanking him I am talking about people that vote for him cause it's ridiculous that his hax can help him to win a battle in which a single hit that gets him ends the battle. he doesn't have a desicive hax here and none can assume he can take down Irene before she lands a single hit mostly because if he is busy dodging he will barely get the opportunitty to hit her not to mention he can't dodge an enchantment that makes his clothing explode.
 
The only part of what you just said that i really disagree with is/hasn't been my arguement so far is that Maou does have decisive haxes; he's got sealing, mind manip, sleep inducement and spell breaking.
 
The only thing I see there for a one shot is mind manipulation which thou depends how strong is it and how is it used.
 
I saw how it works and unless he used it on someone his own level (not weakened as well)I don't see that working just like Irene's transmutation. She also has teleportaion just to say not only him.

Cause you need to look at the strength of those hax and none gives him a one shot. So if people are to assume that in a battle between characters with same speed only one can hit While the other can only look well that is wanking. And again Irene's enchantment is much harder to dodge since her attack comes from a close range a h2h range.
 
Mind manip and Maou's other haxes should still work since they are ones that need a specific resistance or defensive ability to counter (same with Irene's transmutation) as they are durability ignores.
 
I am pretty sure abilities of that type in both verses depend on amount of magical power. Since neither has used it on a powerful enemie. And magical energy can be perfectly counted as a counter to an ability since it's not simply durabilty but an abilty in the first place.
 
That is very unlikely and to the best of my knowlage it's not even implyed to depend on that in either verse; if it did that would mean Mest is stronger than all the members of team natsu and Brandish since he was able to use his memory manipulation (which is a variant of mind manipulation) on them with zero effort.

The point of having a durability ignore means that it will work on a stronger opponent.
 
When distracted or completly unexpected an ability can work on a stronger enemie without a problem in FT verse or else Mest could have used that on the dude that beat the crap out of him on the island where they first met Brandish and in other occasions during the war.

And anyway if one abilitie was never used on a stronger enemie I don't see why would we consider them being able to do so even if it wasn't used simply for plot convinience the ability was anyway limited to weaker enemies.
 
Durabilty ignoring means ignoring phisical durabilty but in this case magic works as protection from that lvl ability.
 
Your argument boils down to: Neither Irene's or Mauo's haxes will work on each other because they have comparable lvls of MP.

Having magic rarely provides durability, beyond enhancing physical durability and when it does this 'magic durability' manifests as a noteworthy power like Berserker's god hand; Which neither of these 2 have anything like.
 
I think he means hax doesn't count as ap and threrefore not affected by regular dura.

Not true, 1 of Irene's hax worked on acnologia and he's stronger than her and nigh immune to magic.

And Maou's probably never bothered haxing anyone of his level since he's never needed too, being the strongest known character in his verse.
 
Irene's hax affected the country not Acnologia directly so it's a diffrent thing since he never got affected directly in the first place. And do as you wish I don care but I stay by my point that if a character never did something in the manga/anime/novel etc. then they can't do it for whatever the reason.
 
So forcably teleporting someone isn't a directly effecting them?

By that logic Acnologia is incapable of opening a jar of pickles; Oh how the mighty have fallen.
 
Very funny. She changed the environment so Acnologia was instantly on a different location to put it simply it's not him that got teleported but the land itself.
 
False, by what we were shown and character statements the land was shrunk to 1/20 of it's original size and all the people and buildings were teleported to random locations.
 
We also have the stament of Acnologia being in the middle of the sea(the only one) which means he probably stayed on same location and since the land disappeared he was in the middle of the sea.
 
Depends on where the centre point of the shrinkage was and Irene only speculated as to where he ended up and confessed she didn't actually know where he had gone.

This also doesn't bode well for FT using fairy sphere since the content of the bubble will disapear without Acno inside and even if it does the boat will be immobilized and Acno won't.
 
Well, the fairy sphere stops the time and since Acnologia is severely weakened cause of the boat the plan should work considering also the number of persons using the fairy sphere, but this is derailing now so let's stop that.
 
he was uneffected by the ravines of time and fairy sphere is magic so trying any time related stuff, especially time magic, on him shouldn't work unless being moition sick disables his passive magic resistance/immunity.
 
Motion sickness diasbales dragon slayers power completly just remmeber the GMG and Natsu,Sting and rougue(and same thing goes for Acnologia cause his power doesn't matter a weakness is a weakness).And David since we are discussing how the hax would work in this battle it's not that big of a derail.
 
No it just makes them very dizzy what effect it has on their magic has never been shown and besides when Natsu was couldn't use magic in Edolas he was still resistant to fire implying the resistance is part of their physiology and won't disapear.

Anyway, back on topic: are we allowing all of Irene's and Maou's powers to be useable/effective on each other or not?
 
I'll go with Maou simply because he has more impressive hax and can dodge her one hit kill moves with his teleportation. He takes it with high difficulty.
 
Well, Irene lost in a pretty stupid way but oh well. Everyone assumed Irene wouldn't get a single hit on maou which is the necessary to win here.
 
Been busy, fixing it now. I thought someone would be kind enough to do so.

And like both characters and all, but in this case Maou can just keep on going.
 
Huh. Checking it over the calc we used for the Mountain level stat is actaully around petatons. Talk about a DC advantage. Though probably gonna have to get the calc rechecked
 
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