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Invincible Re-Revision

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TL;DR Upgrade my homies to High 6-A. Maybe give Bulletproof and Immortal an at most, though.

Atom Eve, Bulletproof and Immortal​

In Invincible #14, Cecil claims that Bulletproof is nearly as durable as Omni-Man. Obviously this is wrong due to being based off incomplete data, but it was still operating on the knowledge that Omni-Man is >> the Guardians, and it's not entirely false because he took an attack from Dinosaurus and Usaal (I'll elaborate on this). Also, I really don't see how making Mark bleed in issue #88 is anything below his earlier levels, which is similarly supported by the fact that he could stomp a Mauler twin, who could at least harm post-Omni-Man fight Invincible despite being far inferior.

In later issues, he was able to damage Adam Eve's constructs following her amp, but was inferior. Prior to this, she kind of fought Universa in issue #69 while her powers were failing from pregnancy, crushed the head of an upgraded Robot drone, erected a forcefield that survived a single blow from Ursaal (who is inferior, but can fight Kregg and Anissa, and tanked Invincible's pre-amp attacks) and scratched her face. And after her amp, she could make enough forcefields to restrain third resurrection Allen, sort of fend off huge swarms of hybrid cadets (see below) and cut through their faces.

For reference, the first time Invincible claims to have strength nearly on par with his father (a fact he uses to stomp the Guardians) is in Astounding Wolf-Man 11, which takes place right before issue #59. Mark then proves this by fighting Conquest in #62.

Now for The Immortal.

The Immortal saw it as necessary to use a bomb within himself to explode and kill him in order to escape being captured by Bulletproof

This is true, but it means nothing because there were also two of Robot's drones with Zandale. Scaling-wise, Immortal should be as strong or stronger because Cho was able to harm Bulletproof, and Immortal was similar in strength. This is supported by the fact that (while grossly inferior to an unquestionable degree) he could make Omni-Man lightly bleed.

Also, it puts them within the same overall tier (as in like 50 x) as Monster Girl, who could break Rex's upgraded drones.

Robot​

This brings me to Robot's best drones.

It's true that Mark can destroy them at full power and typically fights them while weakened, but they can still take serious, full power blows from him and catch his punches. Robot's armour could even withstand some hits from Thragg while Invincible was fighting him in the sun, but it was eventually ripped apart. Later, they managed to harm Invincible after said fight. Overall, they're shown fighting and taking hits from adult/relatively high-tier Viltrumites.

Obviously, they're nowhere near Thragg-level characters, but they're definitely not 400 x lower than Viltrumite War Mark.

Tech Jacket​

Firstly, I want to get into the fact that Tech Jacket didn't just harm fodder, although they explicitly weren't the strongest. Some of them were actually the same Viltrumites that overpowered vol 6 Mark and fought somewhat on par with Omni-Man, something they replicate in this same issue while overpowering Oliver, who could noticeably harm Omni-Man after some training. It should be noted that Tech Jacket was definitely a lot weaker in durability, though.

Secondly, the reason we don't consider the Invincibles Tech Jacket fought as High 6-A is because they're relatively featless alternate counterparts. However, this Tech Jacket and Invincible are also from an alternative timeline where the Geldarians were conquerors rather than a normally peaceful civilization, and they don't have any real scaling to their counterparts (they just 'fight' Brittney and The Emperor).

Additionally, the entire alternates saga took place in issue #60, and many of them have feats well above early Mark or on par with the Mark of this time.
They were previously dismissed as pseudo-fodder that were killed by the heroes of Earth, but this makes no sense when even Mark 7 was strangled to death off-panel. Additionally, many that are killed die through unorthodox means, like Rex detonating his skeleton. Most were killed off-screen, by characters that have no scaling due to being AU references to non-canonical comics, or through means that have proven effective against Mark in the past.

In the finale, Tech Jacket was able to outmatch one Viltrumite hybrid and blow a hole through another. This may not seem impressive given their track record, but even some of the cadets that weren't old enough for their skin to fade to pinker hues can hold their own against Robot's most advanced drones. This version of Tech Jacket isn't shown to be any different from his previous upgrades, and 1/10th of 1.8 exatons is still more than 40x baseline High 6-A.

Allen The Alien​

Near the very end of the series, Allen was nearly killed by an explosion. He survives, heals and gains a noticeably more rocky appearance.

He's still nowhere near Thragg, but he could take hits from a somewhat serious post-amp Invincible.

Miscellaneous.​

Brit being High 6-C is just a bruh moment. He's way more durable than Robot's drones and Invincible.

Omnipotus manhandled issue #87 Invincible.
 
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