Instant Death Discussion Thread

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Impressive, but it's still not infinity)
By the way, why are such feats not included in the profile?

Because its not very relevant? It'd change nothing nor give him any extra ability

 

[Shyouu]

Because its not very relevant? It'd change nothing nor give him any extra ability

I think he's referring to the feat section

 

[Shyouu]

Nevertheless him hypothetically killing an infinite number of enemies at the same time isn't that impressive anyway, it does not grant him anything beside range (but his range is even higher than that lol)

 

[Bernkastelll]

Nevertheless him hypothetically killing an infinite number of enemies at the same time isn't that impressive anyway, it does not grant him anything beside range (but his range is even higher than that lol)

Well, it grants that ''flex feeling'', like a character having Universal lift strength but casually lifting entire castles, it is too flex to the reader, which is exactly the reason that people thinks that Saitama is far stronger than Universal dudes

 

[Shyouu]

Well, it grants that ''flex feeling'', like a character having Universal lift strength but casually lifting entire castles, it is too flex to the reader, which is exactly the reason that people thinks that Saitama is far stronger than Universal dudes

Alright let's make flex feeling an ability

 

[Bernkastelll]

Alright let's make flex feeling an ability

Nah not ability, just list it in the profile as one of the feats, all profiles have the feats part

 

[Shyouu]

not ability, just list it in the profile as one of the feats, all profiles have the feats part

Yeh I already said that above

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yeh I already said that above

where

 

[Shyouu]

I think he's referring to the feat section

This

 

[Gemstic]

Watch the video when you've the time: ID

 

[Гиперион1]

hmm

 

[Shyouu]

hmm

 

[Elizhaa]

Interesting.

 

[Elizhaa]

I got a comment on Yogiri's second key; it is large size 9 so via its should have Immeasurable strength and ts striking strength could scale to it, also; I don't really see why they both should be Unknown

 

[Lapsad]

Curiously this is a way to 5-D ?

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Curiously this is a way to 5-D ?

Was this stated in WN or LN?

 

[Lapsad]

WN.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Curiously this is a way to 5-D ?

not really. The dimension is explicitly stated to be 4D

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

It was LN, not WN. And yeah 5-D, but maybe not by this site's standards.

 

[YungManzi]

not really. The dimension is explicitly stated to be 4D

The argument is that there are 5 dimensions in a heavenly record, because there's Length, Width, Height, Abyss, then Time. 5 dimensions in total. So destroying 1 heavenly record = destroying 5 dimensions.


And even if you think it's not inside of a heavenly record, like Kerwin, at least Yogiri would still probably scale to it via being stated to be capable of destroying everything.

 

[YungManzi]

It was LN, not WN. And yeah 5-D, but maybe not by this site's standards.

I don't think there'll be a problem at all tbh.
A dimension directly being compared to and above W,L, and H is like the easiest way to get tier 1 iirc. We even have statements of people who reach that 4th dimension being literally invincible to someone who can't reach it, and considered near-gods in comparison.

 

[Lapsad]

The argument is that there are 5 dimensions in a heavenly record, because there's Length, Width, Height, Abyss, then Time. 5 dimensions in total. So destroying 1 heavenly record = destroying 5 dimensions.


And even if you think it's not inside of a heavenly record, like Kerwin, at least Yogiri would still probably scale to it via being stated to be capable of destroying everything.

I don't think that would work , they assumed have 5-D axis because a characters can growth older.

But here i found this so manh people say it put analogy like R>F difference.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I don't think that would work , they assumed have 5-D axis because a characters can growth older.

But here i found this so manh people say it put analogy like R>F difference.

Time clearly exists there, otherwise there would be no movement. Not to mention the obvious passage of time leading to the King's death in the first place.

 

[Lapsad]

Its weird , then other fictions with 2-A being shloud have 5-D cosmology because they have time frame governed thier motion , we do allowed such assumtion ?

 

[Shyouu]

I'm pretty sure this wiki treats temporal Dimensions differently so probably not 5D

 

[Elizhaa]

I don't think that would work , they assumed have 5-D axis because a characters can growth older.

But here i found this so manh people say it put analogy like R>F difference.

If the raws are legit, they say five dimensions not four dimensions:

それは、文字通りの意味で、異なる次元の世界でした。それをアストラル界、スピリットワールド、 またはアビスと呼んでください。
それはいくつもの名前で呼ばれていましたが、簡単に言えば、 長さ、 幅、高さが追加の5次元で補完された世界でした。
男はその次元と三次元空間の間を自由に移動することができました。それは信じられないほど強力な能力でした。
その次元を通過することで、彼は好きな場所に行き、攻撃を避けることができました。
彼が示したように、彼はそれを使ってあらゆる種類の防御を迂回し、内部から敵を破壊することさえできました。
その上、 普通の人間はこの次元を知覚することができず、 彼らが反撃することを不可能にしました。
この下の存在ページ上の文字としてのみ表示されます。 寸法の違いのため

It was a world of different dimensions, in the literal sense of the word. Call it the Astral Realm, the Spirit World, or the Abyss.
It was called by a number of names, but simply put, it was a world whose length, width, and height were complemented by an additional five dimensions.
Man was able to move freely between that dimension and three-dimensional space. It was an incredibly powerful ability.
By passing through that dimension, he could go anywhere he wanted and avoid attacks.
As he had shown, he could use it to bypass all sorts of defenses and even destroy his enemies from the inside.
Besides, ordinary humans could not perceive this dimension, making it impossible for them to fight back.
This lower being appears only as a character on the page. Due to the difference in dimensions

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

 

[Bernkastelll]

IF the raws, it is legit, it say five dimensions not four dimensions:

それは、文字通りの意味で、異なる次元の世界でした。それをアストラル界、スピリットワールド、 またはアビスと呼んでください。
それはいくつもの名前で呼ばれていましたが、簡単に言えば、 長さ、 幅、高さが追加の5次元で補完された世界でした。
男はその次元と三次元空間の間を自由に移動することができました。それは信じられないほど強力な能力でした。
その次元を通過することで、彼は好きな場所に行き、攻撃を避けることができました。
彼が示したように、彼はそれを使ってあらゆる種類の防御を迂回し、内部から敵を破壊することさえできました。
その上、 普通の人間はこの次元を知覚することができず、 彼らが反撃することを不可能にしました。
この下の存在ページ上の文字としてのみ表示されます。 寸法の違いのため

It was a world of different dimensions, in the literal sense of the word. Call it the Astral Realm, the Spirit World, or the Abyss.
It was called by a number of names, but simply put, it was a world whose length, width, and height were complemented by an additional five dimensions.
Man was able to move freely between that dimension and three-dimensional space. It was an incredibly powerful ability.
By passing through that dimension, he could go anywhere he wanted and avoid attacks.
As he had shown, he could use it to bypass all sorts of defenses and even destroy his enemies from the inside.
Besides, ordinary humans could not perceive this dimension, making it impossible for them to fight back.
This lower being appears only as a character on the page. Due to the difference in dimensions

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

then, is this enough to grant Low 1-C?

 

[Shyouu]

then, is this enough to grant Low 1-C?

The dimensions seems to be spatially superior so I guess so.

 

[Shyouu]

Additionally this very quote seems to be a R-F difference

その上、 普通の人間はこの次元を知覚することができず、 彼らが反撃することを不可能にしました。
この下の存在ページ上の文字としてのみ表示されます。

 

[Elizhaa]

Assuming overlap within the context of the scan/sidestory is just the King's weakness as context seems to suggest, 5-D could be fine.

 

[Delta333]

This lower being appears only as a character on the page. Due to the difference in dimensions

This alone is enough for low 1-C,the rest can be ignored tbh

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Assuming overlap within the context of the scan/sidestory is just the King's weakness as context seems to suggest, 5-D could be fine.

Guess I'll make the CRT today then. I also have additional context for 5-D stuff.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Subarashii~

 

[Elizhaa]

Additionally this very quote seems to be a R-F difference

Pain; the sentence literally wasn't in the English version and it legit could have convinced me earlier when I read the story if it was in the version.

 

[Elizhaa]

Guess I'll make the CRT today then. I also have additional context for 5-D stuff.

A question, will you included other topics like the NEP Type 2, or will the CRT just be on 5-D?

 

[YungManzi]

I don't think that would work , they assumed have 5-D axis because a characters can growth older.

But here i found this so manh people say it put analogy like R>F difference.

It's not an assumption, time exists in every verse where things happen...

Are you trying to say ID verse doesn't have time or something?

 

[Shyouu]

Pain; the sentence literally wasn't in the English version and it legit could have convinced me earlier when I read the story if it was in the version.

Epic Translators moment

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

A question, will you included other topics like the NEP Type 2, or will the CRT just be on 5-D?

Yes. UEG and Yogiri will get new abilities

 

[YungManzi]

A question, will you included other topics like the NEP Type 2, or will the CRT just be on 5-D?

I personally think ability and tier revisions should be separated, but I won't be the one making the thread so...oh well.

 

[Shyouu]

I personally think ability and tier revisions should be separated

I also agree with this