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Well. This aged well...
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Injustice: Revisions Amogus (Volume 1)
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The movie sucked. Flash was done so dirty
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Actually, apart from Flash (stupidity 1000), it was pretty good until the Joker's death. Then...well at least Oliver X Harley was well done
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I know about that. The problem is more for the game-only characters, as the games have no sense of scaling.
Mentioned-only isn't enough, and those profiles still use non-canonical DLCs/arcade endings regardless.
Zod appeared in Year 0 and got decapitated by AMAZO.
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True. But for these, we can keep the profiles
Yeah, I know, I should have been more clear about what I said but they should get deleted then
Ah true. Though I don't know if he has a profile actually
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On another note, there's just a lot of problems with the profiles in general.
Black Manta's profile is extremely low quality. Without the Arcade Ending, it can probably just be axed.
The unenhanced section of Deathstroke's profile is just full of bad scaling.
Can run so fast that he can go back to the Cretaceous period
This is on the Reverse-Flash's profile, but it's hardly a MFTL+ feat. It's just time travel via speed. If it is actually a feat, someone should probably explain why on the profile.
Small Country level, possibly higher via Magic (Is around the same level as magical users like Raven as he was able to overpower and bind her. His sleeping spell over Wonder Woman was so powerful only an Olympian deity like Ares could dispell it thanks to his own mastering of magic. The same spell was later used on Yellow-Lantern Superman by Batman)
The first part of it is fine, but how does the sleeping spell part have anything to do with raw power?
'Stated to be one of the most powerful practitioners of magic seen in Injustice which puts her on the same level as Raven or Doctor Fate'.
I don't know all the magic users in Injustice, but, setting that aside, there's no source for this quote on Zatanna's profile.
Easily restrained Superman with a Hand construct, and kept up with him for a time
G/YLs can't do anything like this 99% of the time.
Comparable to other humans using the 5-U-93-R pills; said characters can harm and defeat Superman
There's a problem with this on most of the profiles. The thing is that A) Injustice is a fighting game where everyone can fight everyone, and B) super pill users are very inconsistent in strength. Some are almost or directly on par with casual/full power Superman (Batman in particular can harm him, but is depicted as inferior in raw strength), others are lower than Wonder Woman and have even been accidentally killed by her when she lets go. We should decide who scales to whom based on who they fight.
Black Manta's profile is extremely low quality. Without the Arcade Ending, it can probably just be axed.
The unenhanced section of Deathstroke's profile is just full of bad scaling.
Can run so fast that he can go back to the Cretaceous period
This is on the Reverse-Flash's profile, but it's hardly a MFTL+ feat. It's just time travel via speed. If it is actually a feat, someone should probably explain why on the profile.
Small Country level, possibly higher via Magic (Is around the same level as magical users like Raven as he was able to overpower and bind her. His sleeping spell over Wonder Woman was so powerful only an Olympian deity like Ares could dispell it thanks to his own mastering of magic. The same spell was later used on Yellow-Lantern Superman by Batman)
The first part of it is fine, but how does the sleeping spell part have anything to do with raw power?
'Stated to be one of the most powerful practitioners of magic seen in Injustice which puts her on the same level as Raven or Doctor Fate'.
I don't know all the magic users in Injustice, but, setting that aside, there's no source for this quote on Zatanna's profile.
Easily restrained Superman with a Hand construct, and kept up with him for a time
G/YLs can't do anything like this 99% of the time.
Comparable to other humans using the 5-U-93-R pills; said characters can harm and defeat Superman
There's a problem with this on most of the profiles. The thing is that A) Injustice is a fighting game where everyone can fight everyone, and B) super pill users are very inconsistent in strength. Some are almost or directly on par with casual/full power Superman (Batman in particular can harm him, but is depicted as inferior in raw strength), others are lower than Wonder Woman and have even been accidentally killed by her when she lets go. We should decide who scales to whom based on who they fight.
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Manta should be removed anyway since he's strictly DLC
Haven't played the game for a while but from what I remember, Deathstroke actually defeats WW without being enhanced with pulls
RF should be changed for time travel yes.
Sleeping spell should be hax for Constantine.
Can't remember where I found this for Zatanna.
Can't remember the exact context for GL but I don't see why it shouldn't be counted unless it's made clear it was something very unusual and difficult for him to do and contradict everything else about him.
The pulls fighters was based on the current tier wich is shared by everybody currently so they all scale to each other, that's why. Same goes for all other characters, Low 6-B was agreed at the time and it was accepted characters scale to each other (wich was also the case when the verse had his original 5-A tier). Obviously this will change since we will get new tiers.
Haven't played the game for a while but from what I remember, Deathstroke actually defeats WW without being enhanced with pulls
RF should be changed for time travel yes.
Sleeping spell should be hax for Constantine.
Can't remember where I found this for Zatanna.
Can't remember the exact context for GL but I don't see why it shouldn't be counted unless it's made clear it was something very unusual and difficult for him to do and contradict everything else about him.
The pulls fighters was based on the current tier wich is shared by everybody currently so they all scale to each other, that's why. Same goes for all other characters, Low 6-B was agreed at the time and it was accepted characters scale to each other (wich was also the case when the verse had his original 5-A tier). Obviously this will change since we will get new tiers.
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Ok.
Which is really bad scaling, as I said. He’s usually closer to fodder villains or the Bat Family.
Ok.
Ok.
It is unusual though, just for Green Lantern to be capable of restraining Superman for any prolonged period (i.e 10 seconds). It’s blatantly contradicted by everyone and their mother smashing through Lantern constructs like paper lanterns.
I’m saying we should fix the scaling, not the ratings themselves, by going through each character.
Which is really bad scaling, as I said. He’s usually closer to fodder villains or the Bat Family.
Ok.
Ok.
It is unusual though, just for Green Lantern to be capable of restraining Superman for any prolonged period (i.e 10 seconds). It’s blatantly contradicted by everyone and their mother smashing through Lantern constructs like paper lanterns.
I’m saying we should fix the scaling, not the ratings themselves, by going through each character.
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Yeah, I know, unless there's some notable explanation in the game/lore, this should be counted as an outlier
Outlier then?
Yeah but we're going to get new tiers anyway so they will take the appropriate tier and scale like they should, that's what I'm saying
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tbh he explicitly mentions that he needs this supes, implying that it's the only timeline he visited with a supes
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Seems like just all of his incarnations have somehow chosen a Supes in each timeline and simply get to that
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We don't see the actual Spectre in the comics, since that's Mxy in disguise. The Phantom Stranger is easily killed by him, too.
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then he wouldn't scale would he? if it's still another incarnation
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You’re kinda misinterpreting what Mxy is saying here, he’s saying he can’t live without Superman in general not just Injustice Superman, he’s referring to every incarnation Superman across the Multiverse. He even explicitly says that "He refuses to live in a multiverse without Superman"
Also, he literally says that he travels between worlds, which pretty much confirms the whole thing
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I'm not big on Low 1-C Zeus but neutral on Trigon and Mxy; I kinda want to make them their own revision though
Yeah I'm fine wih keeping the ones who show up but I think we should prioritize the comics depictions over the DLC's
Enchantress and Freeze would also likely be deleted since they don't have much (Freeze is a cameo and I barely know if Enchantress is acknowledged)
She shows up in the comics lmao
I think he can be deleted since he has no concretely canon feats
I'm fine with them since they exist in their own non canon pockets of content
he is and we should use the comic depiction for him
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Wait, why would Zeus scale to Mxy or Trigon?
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Hum, Zeus wouldn't scale, he has nothing to prove he can scale to that (unless I don't remember something). Unless we find something about him that could show he can scale, he would simply be below the two others but still superior to the rest of the characters, Mxy and Trigon would be the only one to be Low 1-C
DLC would be good for hax and pic though
Couldn't find anything about the Enchantress unfortunately (wich I'm very sad about since I really like this version of the character
)Well guess she can get a profile then if she has feats
Yep
Agree
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She DEFINITELY should get a profile
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Already has one lol
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Ah yes. Worst is that...I was the one who made it actually^^
She should keep it then
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BTW could we use intro dialogue for the DLC characters?
For example: Starfire has a statement of fighting Black Adam (As mentioned on her page)
And Enchantress stated that even the Spectre fears her power
For example: Starfire has a statement of fighting Black Adam (As mentioned on her page)
And Enchantress stated that even the Spectre fears her power
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Not sure
Enchantress will likely get deleted honestly, we have nothing canon about her
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So now what's left to do?
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The Moon calc should prolly be redone with the new curvature formula, since not all of the moon is visible.
Instead of using Planet values it would use moon values.
Corrected moon diameter = sqrt(1-(tan(35) * (moon diameter in pixels/panel height in pixels))^2/((tan(35) * (moon diameter in pixels/panel height in pixels))^2+1)) * moon diameter
What is the issue number of the moon feat again?
Instead of using Planet values it would use moon values.
Corrected moon diameter = sqrt(1-(tan(35) * (moon diameter in pixels/panel height in pixels))^2/((tan(35) * (moon diameter in pixels/panel height in pixels))^2+1)) * moon diameter
What is the issue number of the moon feat again?
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No
it’s in the op; can’t read through it now since on my way to work but it’s there (just ctrl f the word moon)
Makes sense; I’d still keep Mxy and Trigon as their own thread tho since I wanna add to them
Hax and tabber image is fine (maybe with the exception of Zod)
Yeah she seemed cool. Oh well hopefully she’s in Injustice 3’s inevitable comicCouldn't find anything about the Enchantress unfortunately (wich I'm very sad about since I really like this version of the character
Definitely; we’d need to work out where she and Superboy stand tho
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Also why was the volume divided in half from 7.3585043e+14 m^3 (7.3585043e+20 cm^3) to 3.6792521e+20 cm^3?
You don't need to divide the volume twice.
Since 1.4717009e+15 m^3 is the full elipsoid value, you only need to halve once to get the semi-ellipsoid value of 7.3585043e+14 m^3 value. You don't need to halve it again.
Full elipsoid formula is 4/3 * pi * (side a/2) * (side b/2) * (side c/2)
Semi-ellipsoid formula is 2/3 * pi * (side a/2) * (side b/2) * (side c/2)
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Would the Supergirl moon feat yield anything good? I still feel it should be calced :/
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I'll try and calc it rn. Hopefully it gets good results
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Well this sucks. Mountain level+ to Island level depending on the end
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L
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I swear this calculation is the bane of my existence. I'll redo it.
I think I mixed up petaton with Teraton.
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Superman Tackles Sinestro - Injustice
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Wonder Woman once beat Sinestro nearly unconscious, so she should somewhat scale to this casual Superman feat.
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And suddenly this calc feels like a supporting feat now since Amazo brushed it off
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