Infinite Zamasu tier revision

[AguilaR101]

What's even the point of this discussion now?

3-A characters aren't tier 2, we already know that no matter how the universe is structured or how many space times it crosses unless the characters explicitly affect space-time they're not tier 2.

Op's main point is that we could reinterpret Zamasu taking over the universe as him taking over the entirety of U7 which apparently is contextualized as containing at least 3 separate spacetimes of varying sizes.

And yes there are several spacetimes in each universe unless you want to pretend

"However, Zen'ō is still a Multi-Universal character, as his erasure of all 12 universes didn't simply affect the physical universes, but also the universe-sized Afterlifes, the Kaioshin Realms, and every other pocket dimension in existence"

isn't written as the basis for Zeno's stats.

 

[Golden_Void]

It means it transcended the boundaries of the space time of the normal realm, and the kaioshin can see the entire universe from their planet.

This is like saying Vegeta doesn't destroy a space-time when he destroys the hyperbolic time chamber, it's a similar concept.

 

[SSJRyu1]

Just putting this out there. If the reasoning for ignoring IZ level is that Zeno is also tier 2-C, then that is not really disproving anything. For starters Zeno is casually 2-C, and erased all 12 macrocausms with his casual feat, so we can't even say that 2-C is confirmed his limit, just that it is his best showing at casual levels. Second, 2-C spans 2-1000 Unvierses so you could easily have 1 2-C character that stomps another in power. So both being 2-C is completly possible.

 

[SITHISIT]

can we just put in possibly higher for the meantime.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

What evidence do you happen there isn't time? Your openly excepting that time passing in the living world is relative to the other world then why the heck wouldn't there be time in the other world?

Because its an afterlife? You know, where the dead live? Why would the dead have time passing in that world when they are no longer alive, thus as souls they don't age? That literally makes 0 sense and is absurd to think.

 

[The_Everlasting]

If there's no evidence at all we can't assume.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

It should be assumed an afterlife for the dead has no time unless something explicitly goes against it. I'm sure we have always treated the spirit world for a verse like that every time unless something went against it, no?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

You're just saying there's not because its the afterlife when there is literally nothing in universe that says that...

 

[Darkmon_cns]

It should be assumed an afterlife for the dead has no time unless something explicitly goes against it. I'm sure we have always treated the spirit world for a verse like that every time unless something went against it, no?

I have never heard of that

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well its common sense? An afterlife for someone's final resting place and for their soul to pass onto shouldnt logically have time in any way shape or form. No one ages in the afterlife, they stay their for eternity, there's no reason at all why it would have time unless somehow stated to be.

 

[The_Everlasting]

No one ages in the afterlife because they're dead, not because there's no time.

There's literally no reason the afterlife wouldn't have a flow of time unless it's specifically stated.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Frankly, I'm just going to close this because it's going nowhere and it's not getting accepted.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Why wouldn't there be time? Souls don't age because they have no physical form. You realize this would Upgrade people like king yema to immeasurable do to naturally living in a timeless environment which is silly.

@Mat why not? Why wouldn't it have been?