Infinite Speed Hi3?

[PlungingThroughTime]

In Honkai Impact Chapter 33 we see Hua open one of the Star of Eden's black holes directly onto Kevin. This means that Kevin is in the centre of the Black Hole, where the Singularity should be.
The characters, including an unconscious Hua, aren't getting pulled either way, so it seems to be natural that this is the very centre of the black hole and gravity is equal on all sides.

Furthermore both HoS and Kevin agree that Kevin is only trapped temporarily inside of this black hole.
Here's the video segment btw.

The wiki states that escaping a singularity is an infinite speed feat, thus everyone who scales to Diabolic Kevin should have infinite speed. This'd 100% include:

• Herrscher of Truth Bronya
• Herrscher of Origin Mei
• Herrscher of Finality Kiana and her CoF key
• Deliverance Kevin

Whether Durandal, Hua and Senti would scale to Diabolic Kevin is more debatable but it's worth bringing up that they may potentially scale.

Regardless of whether you believe this is the singularity or not, escaping a black hole is still stable FTL for Hi3 or potentially MFTL given how casually Kevin seems to be able to escape and how close to the singularity they are (which it doesn't have without HSR).

 

[Mbpoops]

given that a helped slightly with this, i agree

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Do you have a scan of him physically moving out of the singularity?

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Do you have a scan of him physically moving out of the singularity?

Nope. The best we have is him just talking to Durandal next chapter like nothing happened. He did escape that's for sure, but we don't get to see him do it.

 

[Lynieryz]

Nope. The best we have is him just talking to Durandal next chapter like nothing happened. He did escape that's for sure, but we don't get to see him do it.

So it should be a "Possibly" since Kevin is capable of destroying the black hole.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Nope. The best we have is him just talking to Durandal next chapter like nothing happened. He did escape that's for sure, but we don't get to see him do it.

And how do we know he didn't just somehow teleport/dimensional travel out of it or even just destroy the black hole to get out?

The guys has many other ways he could've broken out, you'd need much more substantial evidence than this is.

 

[Osemere]

Doesn’t FTL escape require it being evaluated as a legitimate black hole? It’s literally called a ‘pseudo black hole’ in the scene dialogue and it’s clearly self-contained and not sucking up anything outside of its context of just being spawned on Kevin.

Albeit I’m not really educated about BH standards here.

 

[Mbpoops]

Doesn’t FTL escape require it being evaluated as a legitimate black hole? It’s literally called a ‘pseudo black hole’ in the scene dialogue and it’s clearly self-contained and not sucking up anything outside of its context of just being spawned on Kevin.

it does suck up things around it actually veliona warned seele not to get too close not to mention these black holes do share the same properties as real black holes like in AE where the black hole's event horizon "extends things infinitly"

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

So it should be a "Possibly" since Kevin is capable of destroying the black hole.

From the inside, I'm not sure. Valid point though, this is the most likely. We have seen him destroy black holes from the outside.

And how do we know he didn't just somehow teleport/dimensional travel out of it or even just destroy the black hole to get out?

The guys has many other ways he could've broken out, you'd need much more substantial evidence than this is.

Despite having the authority of Void we never see him use it, though it is a potential escape route. I believe he escaped using speed because Hua and HoS crucially do not have teleportation and yet are still able to escape, but without confirmation of Kevin physically escaping through speed it does seem like this is a useless argument.

Doesn’t FTL escape require it being evaluated as a legitimate black hole? It’s literally called a ‘pseudo black hole’ in the scene dialogue and it’s clearly self-contained and not sucking up anything outside of its context of just being spawned on Kevin.

Albeit I’m not really educated about BH standards here.

SoE is accepted as a legitimate black hole.

 

[Mbpoops]

And how do we know he didn't just somehow teleport/dimensional travel out of it or even just destroy the black hole to get out?

The guys has many other ways he could've broken out, you'd need much more substantial evidence than this is.

yea theres not much other than hua saying kevin left the moon and kevin only staying to aura farm i think a possibly infinite is also fine but eh

 

[Osemere]

it does suck up things around it actually veliona warned seele not to get too close not to mention these black holes do share the same properties as real black holes like in AE where the black hole's event horizon "extends things infinitly"

Given the latter statement him actually escaping through speed would be fine, but there’s literally nothing implying that.

 

[Mbpoops]

Given the latter statement him actually escaping through speed would be fine, but there’s literally nothing implying that.

yea thats fair theres also nothing implying he destroyed it so its a bit of a situation.. im fine with possibly tho

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

yea theres not much other than hua saying kevin left the moon and kevin only staying to aura farm i think a possibly infinite is also fine but eh

Eh then that's a no for me, especially with the amount of abilities he has that would give him the power to just escape the black hole, if not outright destroy it.

Unless concrete evidence is presented. I disagree.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Eh then that's a no for me, especially with the amount of abilities he has that would give him the power to just escape the black hole, if not outright destroy it.

Unless concrete evidence is presented. I disagree.

Yeah, utterly valid. Hua and Senti escaping when they don't have teleportation abilities points towards speed for me but there's nothing actually saying Kevin didn't just destroy the black hole which is now my point of contention looking at this, and is very valid to bring up.

I figured it was worth bringing up since it's FTL speed if accepted at minimum, but barring the black hole being made on Kevin there isn't much evidence for them being in the singularity either.

 

[MSahla]

Well, since the OP himself seemingly also agree with it being not Infinite speed, i guess it's pointless to continue this? I mean, like, are you guys just wanna wait for the staff to come here and hoping they say "Disagree"?

I'm just watching the conversations.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Well, since the OP himself seemingly also agree with it being not Infinite speed, i guess it's pointless to continue this? I mean, like, are you guys just wanna wait for the staff to come here and hoping they say "Disagree"?

OFC not lol. I mainly brought it up because like I said if it's accepted to be a speed feat it's FTL at minimum, but yeah it's valid for there to be other ways he could escape.