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Infinite and Endless
- Thread starter Lormac_CC
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Endless is just a really big number infinite is infinite
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thats how its treated
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yeah it has always been treated like that
Endless /=/ 2-A
Endless = 2-B
Infinite = 2-A
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Think of it like this, the number line has no end, but infinity is not on the number line.
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There will be an infinite-th D and that’s it the end of hierarchy,you can think like this,between 1-D and infinite-th D is infinite amount of dimensions,but if it’s endless,infinite-th D will not exist because there will be always a dimension that higher than the last one and go on forever
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Endless can mean infinite, but only in certain contexts.
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The hierarchy is High 1-B if it goes on forever. It's just that any random god will only scale to a specific level.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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You can still have High 1-B with Endless Higher D hierarchies if for example, a character is stated to be superior to all other characters in the hierarchy, or transcend the system entirely
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I mean, the former is Low 1-A and the latter is 1-A...
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Not necessarily. Iirc it depends on the nature of trancendance. Like if someone is just superior to a High 1-B they'll just be a higher degree of it, since High 1-B is for Countably Infinite dimensions and all extentions of it, as long as it's still countable.
Pretty sure also for 1-A you need explicit statements for it and just transcending without context ain't gonna cut it iirc
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I mean high 1-B has infinite-th D right,and the hierarchy doesn’t have anything like that that’s why there is no infinite dimensional god
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That's like saying you need to define 1-A 5 times 5 different ways when your describing it /: just because a single statement taken from a series wouldn't prove it's that tier on the wiki dosen't mean that, transcending a high 1-B structure fully and completely is one of the definitions of 1-A, telling people that isn't enough to be 1-A because that wouldn't be enough evidence as they worded it alone is just confusing for them and dosen't help them learn
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So we do give this benefit of the doubt, i thought we strictly consider it as "large but finite".
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The hierarchy is infinite. As a whole, it's High 1-B. It's just that no character scales.
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So what about infinite-th D like I said?if the hierarchy is high 1-B that dimension will exist,and it will be contradicted to the nature of being endless
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Infinteth dosen't actually exist, like how infinite isn't on the numberline, but as it is endless, trancending the enter hierarchy or destroying the entire hierarchy would indeed be 1-A/low 1-A
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it actually exists,the reason hierarchy is not true infinity in size because it lacks that dimension,there was a thread that talked about it before
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I disagree with this assement- and that's all I really have to say on that. I ment infinteth didn't exist in this hierarchy, not that high 1-B dosen't exist in general
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yeah this is what I want to say
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It won't for the same reason Infinity won't exist on the number line.
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infinite-th D exists and maybe this thread can explain for you why infinite dimensional place doesn't exist in this hierarchy
"There is always a higher dimension. You can have your god of the 12212414123213rd dimension, but there's still going to be a dimension above that. You can have your god of the 2194100947497359032790437590345790347943579340437904375903092494th dimension, but there will still be a dimension above that. That is the nature of infinity
There is no being that is just "the ∞th dimensional god"
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The fact that there's no being at the top doesn't stop it being an infinite hierarchy, the same way there being no Infinitieth number doesn't stop the number line being infinite.
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what I want so say is the hierarchy can't be high 1-B because infinite-th god and infinite dimensional place don't exist like that old thread said
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I feel like this should be talked about. Endless isn't considered infinite because of a definition that states that it could be a very high number, yet infinite also has the exact same definition of a really high number when you google it. Why are they both considered different, when both can be used realistically and as hyperbole?
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If it truly goes on forever then it's High 1-B. I really can't be bothered with that thread. It's just that no one scales.
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why it's high 1-B when infinite dimensional place doesn't exist
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Both Infinite and endless use each other in their definitions funnily.
But yeah I still feel endless should be by default same as infinite, but it should be taken with a grain of salt, instead of taking it as " large but finite" and then giving it benefit of the doubt
It exists in no system, no where will you fing infinith dimensional place, letalone in Magi.
You logic will invalidate any infinity in any series.
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in the thread link I posted it said no infinite dimensional place in magi so no high 1-B
this is infinite dimensional being
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