inFAMOUS Discussion Thread 3

[Schnee_One]

I like both tho

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Kessler had a much stronger presence and back story

John was a lot more tragic and logical in his execution

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Also, something I realized after thinking about inFamous 1

Cole resistance evolution was shown off pretty well. He goes from being incapped after a long struggle from one blast of Sasha's tar to tanking several blasts of it with minor status effects (Good Cole)

He also goes from being one shot by a Memory Inject from Kessler to being able to survive a couple phantasms from him during their fight.

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

It could just be a result of him growing in power, rather than being directly related to Reactive Evolution.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

AP doesn't effect resistance to hax

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

It normally doesn't, but it isn't impossible for a verse to augment the resistances as you grow stronger (tends to be the case with RPGs or other such things, but not only them).

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

True but keep in mind that the first feat occurred in the same mission where no upgrades or power ups where given (actually it was status effects that were given out in that mission)

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Also, not sure about this, but the official Conduit Test thing from the Suck Punch website has a result for electrical Conduits, and it describes Cole as "one of the most powerful and heroic Conduits who ever lived". Not sure if we can use that to scale to Second Son, but it's something.

Any thoughts on this?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I see it as a supporting statement for his already existing tier. No part of that statement implies that he's stronger than Delsin after all.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Well the Beast did perform the High 7-A feat way before he and Cole got much stronger/received upgrades. Plus, John had no control over his powers at the time.

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

Also, serious question regarding the Ray Sphere calc.

The current one uses the volume of an ellipsoid, but shouldn't it be a spherical cap?

 

[Schnee_One]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3914148?useskin=oasis

Ffffff

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

@Eugene

I believe it had something to do with the unevenness of the crater and the non-vaporized bits, which included the center

@Schnee

>Rakudai vs inFamous

Pls no

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

Also a question regarding an inFAMOUS 2 upgrade. I'm sorry if I don't remember the specifics of it, but if it's the same problem as using near-total fatalities for the Empire City Blast, can this blast just be redone with a different formula? Unless there were other factors of course.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:PTSOXMONKEY99/The_Beast_makes_a_Big_Boom_Redux

Using the accepted result of the Empire City Blast would be 283 Gigatons. Again, if there were other factors as to why this was removed, I'm sorry I don't remember.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

It was removed since there were issues with the the projected AP of the calc and the actual damage produced by the feat. The epicenter of the blast left rubble of the building Cole and John were on.

 

[DMUA]

yeah it doesn't actually wipe out everything in the radius, it barely crumbles buildings at the very epicenter

 

[Schnee_One]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3914148?useskin=oasis

Ffffff

DMUA can you check the calc issue brought up in the thread

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

yeah it doesn't actually wipe out everything in the radius, it barely crumbles buildings at the very epicenter

Well, if that's the case, we can still use the default pressure of 5 psi or or 0.344738 bars which gives us 57 Gigatons. Just barely Island level+.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

I mean there would still be the issue with the actual damage of the feat

But this could be interesting

 

[DMUA]

That would still assume that it would be shattering steel across the entire blast zone, when it's barely shattering concrete at the epicenter

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Yeah the church they were on is still basically intact. Like, only a few pillars are missing. Which is spectacular considering the buildings around it were blown apart.

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

Well, there is the argument that the blast shown on the map was made by Beast Cole since the epicenter is east of New Marais. But besides that, I'm confused why the default pressure isn't usable since it's mainly used for explosions that don't destroy walls or windows. Also yeah, even if the church is mostly intact (somehow), the rest of the city was shown to be almost completely demolished. There's even some shattered steel beams seen when Cole's gathering civilians.

(As a side note, I apologize for being annoying by constantly bringing this stuff up. Or if it feels like I'm being disrespectful, since it's difficult to convey tone over text)

 

[DMUA]

shattering glass as a baseline is .15 PSI, immensely lower than your supposed default pressure that doesn't destroy windows

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

I'm 90% sure that that New Marais blast destroyed the glass in the surrounding buildings

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

shattering glass as a baseline is .15 PSI, immensely lower than your supposed default pressure that doesn't destroy windows

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TheRustyOne/Senran_Kagura:_Ryona_Goes_Boom

Unless this guy made a mistake

 

[DMUA]

And indeed it was their mistake

that I kinda just said "sure fine this works" because that was several months ago when I was feeling extremely dead inside

 

[Schnee_One]

Then repent by killing the calc

 

[DMUA]

omea wa mou calcderu

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Slightly off topic, but something funny I noticed. Despite being a relatively obscure series, inFamous has managed to start up some intense rivalries/cursed match-ups with some big names:

Vs Naruto (Beast can't absorb the boardwalk, Beast has no sage chakra gg, literally all of Cole vs Madara)

Vs Fairy Tail (Absorption debates, Death hax vs Regen)

Vs My Hero Academia (at least with Cole vs All Might)

Vs Marvel Cinematic Universe (there was a while extended universe dedicated to it)

Vs Rakudai (Cole vs Ikki was a thing)

 

[The_Wright_Way]

>Beast can't absorb the boardwalk

Alright, I'm morbidly curious now. Where's that from?

 

[DMUA]

Beast vs Madara where they tried to debunk beast saying Black holes gg in the funniest way possible

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

I think it was from Cole vs Madara

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

A "for fun" topic:

Does anyone have any ideas for a Cole MacGrath Death Battle opponent that hasn't been done to death. By "Death Battle" I mean a character with similar abilities and origins, not stats on this site.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Raiden or Static Shock. That's all I've got.

 

[Schnee_One]

Electro?

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

Electro?

Dude, that's bringing back rage from the days 15 year old me posted cringy Death Battle blogs on Deviantart

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Slightly off topic, but something funny I noticed. Despite being a relatively obscure series, inFamous has managed to start up some intense rivalries/cursed match-ups with some big names:

Vs Naruto (Beast can't absorb the boardwalk, Beast has no sage chakra gg, literally all of Cole vs Madara)

Vs Fairy Tail (Absorption debates, Death hax vs Regen)

Vs My Hero Academia (at least with Cole vs All Might)

Vs Marvel Cinematic Universe (there was a while extended universe dedicated to it)

Vs Rakudai (Cole vs Ikki was a thing)

I mean, that's probably because inFAMOUS is so obscure. People don't like the idea of some superhero gsme they've never heard of beating their favorite character.

 

[The_Real_Eugene_Sims]

Aren't there quite a few verses that are super popular on this wiki but super obscure everywhere else? I know SMT is one, and I guess inFAMOUS is one.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

It's just funny. Like, Fairy Tail vs InFamous seems so innocent on paper since Dragon Slayers are basically magic Conduits without regen, but when the match is made it quickly turned into a shitshow

 

[The_Wright_Way]

How's the calc doing?