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Incomplete Arceus vs Dracula

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Being stronger than a conceptual embodiment isn't conceptual manipulation. Adam conover was denied conceptual manipulation for this reason.
 
Anyway, inconclusive. Personally, I feel as if the four gods of 2-C (Arceus, Lucemon, Pontos, and Dracula) all tie with each other due to the nature of all of their powers.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Being stronger than a conceptual embodiment isn't conceptual manipulation. Adam conover was denied conceptual manipulation for this reason.
Death answers to Dracula's power and Dracula controls the concept of Chaos along with all that is related to it.

Also comparing Dracula to Adam Conover is one of the worst arguments I've seen being made in months. Keep the downplay away from the thread, please.
 
@Cal

Okay.

This doesn't change that Dracula is basically the Avatar of the multiversal embodiment of Chaos who is the equal opposite to God, and he creates entire dimensions made of pure, living chaos.
 
Arceus can be any Pokémon type allowing him to do nearly everything. From manipulating fire to travelling through dimensions.
 
Phealan1 said:
Arceus can be any Pokémon type allowing him to do nearly everything. From manipulating fire to travelling through dimensions.
Define nearly everything.

Also travelling through dimensions is a non-factor.
 
Death is made of Chaos, as is all other demons under Dracula's control, which includes things like Agni who is the embodiment of Fire.

With the "Power of Dominance", Dracula has full control over the souls of each and everyone of these beings made of Chaos, and can do whatever he wishes with them.

Soma Cruz even erased Death from existence with the Power of Dominance (Though Death came back since beings like him are created from the Chaos within human hearts and will never fully die until humans live).

Which means that Arceus can't put Dracula down.
 
It's literally both ways. Neither can put the other down. Both would need to wipe out humanity from entire timelines to have a chance at the other.
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
Dracula lacks resistance to conceptual manip. Arceus wins by making it illogical for himself to losd
Whoa, Arceus' conceptual Manipulation isn't that good.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
@Cal

Arceus has Type 8 Immortality now?
Type 9. Though it acts like Type 8. Only reason it isn't is because DT said that it's technically Arceus in the humans. Think of it as a failsafe.
 
Arceus:

Dracula:

Inconclusive: 4 (The real cal howard, Phealan1, LoyalservantofInti, NeoZex6399)
 
Gargoyle One said:
Then I shall enter and say.
Inconclusive for reasons above.
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Arceus:

Dracula:

Inconclusive: 5 (The real cal howard, Phealan1, LoyalservantofInti, NeoZex6399, Gargoyle One)
 
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