Important Tsukihime Scaling Revisions and Key Seperating and Additions

[CrystalValley]

so while people like me and this site have massively opposing views regarding Tsukihime, I think there is some middle ground we can agree on and some undeniable scaling that needs to happen. this thread will solely focus on scaling to already established character tiers, as opposed to creating new tiers for characters entirely since that's a whole other ordeal.

this post is going to be scan heavy, even though a lot of this was already accepted because i want to accurately explain why key scales to what and also show multiple scans that prove these aren't outliers or anything.

starting off.

Base Sion should be upgraded to 30% Arcueid's tier for taking hits from and damaging Wallachia in Arcueid's body who can use 30% of her power.

base Sion can also dodge intercept and take a direct bloodlusted attack from Wallachia as Zepia that was directed towards Arcueid and deflect it.

all of this should upgrade base Sion to scale to Wallachia and 30% Arcueid as a whole in speed durability and AP.

Vampire Sion's durability needs to get upgraded accordingly, since it's only city level right now for some reason.

Shiki Tohno also needs a Melty Blood key that scales to Vampire Sion, since he survived attacks from her when he was hesitating to fight and then stomped her immediately without MEoDP (his eyes were closed to not kill her). even saying he would beat her down again and again until she gives up.

Tohno was also capable of reacting to a Tatari Arcueid spawned by Sion and killed her immediately even when caught off guard by the whole situation.

so Tohno needs a Melty Blood key that scales his AP speed and durability above Vampire Sion since he blitz stomped her with physical strikes.

Tohno also should have a "likely none notable" weakness for his Melty Blood key, since his eyes have evolved enough to where he can kill metaphysical Tatari information and Sion states it is likely that he can kill concepts beyond human comprehension.

now on with Akiha, she needs to have different keys and be massively upgraded. the key where she is rated as small building level for ripping out SHIKI's heart is her at her weakest, with her sharing half of her life force with Shiki on top of suppressing her powers to where she's using the bare minimum.

since she is sharing half of her life force with Shiki and using the bare minimum of her powers, this should be its own key and be named "Weakened" or something simple like that. you can keep the AP and speed ratings the same if you want. it's whatever.

what needs to change however is her later selves after she stops sharing half of her life force with Shiki once SHIKI dies and Shiki gets his stolen life force back, which makes Akiha able to use more of her power.

her black haired form in Melty Blood is her actively using her powers to suppress her Oni blood, while her Vermillion form is her using her Oni powers more freely, but restricting them with her willpower still to retain her sanity, since using her full power would cause a complete inversion impulse and loss of sanity similar to Arcueid's vampiric impulses.

Akiha in a state close to Crimson Red Vermilion.
Through sheer willpower alone, she is able to control her rampage and avoid fully becoming a Crimson Red Vermilion.
Or rather, for Akiha this form is actually what she looks like when she’s conserving her strength, and her normal form is the result of her actively using her power to suppress her oni blood. It’s quite similar to the situation with Arcueid and her vampiric impulse.
Properly speaking, becoming a Crimson Red Vermilion means completely losing your ability to reason, but it seems even in this state Akiha still has some sanity left. This, too, is probably by virtue of her high aptitude for it. - MB Act Cadenza PS2 Manual: Tsukihime Dictionary

link is here.

it even states that her power as a demon hybrid is among the best of the best.

As the Tohno family head she possesses noble blood, and her power as a demon hybrid is among the best of the best. -MB Act Cadenza PS2 Manual: Tsukihime Dictionary

link here.

her black haired form in Melty Blood is capable of defeating Sion.

so base Akiha after not needing to share her life force anymore and not having to use the absolute bare minimum of her powers is superior to Sion.

Akiha when in her Vermillion state in Melty Blood is capable of defeating 50% Arcueid (not a Tatari).

so Vermillion Akiha in Melty Blood (that is still suppressed with her willpower mind you) is above 50% Arcueid.

now we have the strongest version of Akiha that absorbed Roa and fully fell to her inversion impulse, reaching full power and stated to likely exceed a rampaging Arcueid, which would be referring to an Arcueid no longer restricting her bloodlust and operating at full capacity.

In one of the routes, she ended up inverting and demonstrating her power to its fullest extent. That dreadful form, with its fluttering vermilion hair, is probably capable of exceeding even a rampaging Arcueid. - Tsukihime Dokuhan Plus Period

link is here and here.

now i heard there was attempted arguments against this referring to Red Arcueid not restricting her bloodlust and was referring to the angry Arcueid in the Ciel Route since people seemed to think that this book came out before Melty Blood before concepts like Red Arcueid was established. this is disproven with Akiha's scaling chain I have presented so far, along with the fact that Dokuhan Plus Period came out in October 22, 2004, as shown here, while Melty Blood Re-Act, let alone the first game came out in May 30, 2004 before Dokuhan Plus Period, as you can see on the right side here. this means the concept of Red Arcueid and Arcueid's vampiric impulses were already well established, ignoring the fact Tsukihime already established all of this. regardless, this Akiha would scale above all of her Melty Blood incarnations just due to the fact it was a full inversion and she is capable of using her full power. what tier rating she would be is unknown, since you guys don't have a proper Red Arcueid/100% Arcueid key, but I guess Island Level or whatever? small country? idk. i don't agree with your actual ratings. i'm just trying to get the general scaling of characters correct.

it should also be pointed out that the wiki summary part of Akiha's profile on the TM Wiki saying her Origimi cannot effect Servants is fanfiction and isn't stated in the source material they cite. it only mentions Arcueid. and that is likely referring to the weakened Akiha, since she was weakened throughout the vast majority of Tsukihime. just thought i'd mention that.

also when she inverts completely in the Kohaku Route, she still seems to have her sanity despite being far more sadistic for the same reason SHIKI did (Roa). her absorbing Roa's concept is what inverted her completely but also kept her sanity, despite her being far darker.

now for the completely busted guy. Nanaya's power level and feats differ depending on what manifestation he is in and we need separate keys to reflect this.

for instance, White Len is just the unused part of Len's personality that was given shape as a Tatari and remained after the death of Wallachia.

White Len is the person behind the Tatari of Re-Act and Act Cadenza, along with being behind some of the Tatari in Actress Again aside from just Dust of Osiris.

we know that White Len's Tatari are less accurate than Wallachia's and presumably Osiris's as well, since Ciel makes a statement saying that Tatari Red Arcueid is not as strong as the real one.

in Tsukihime Plus Period, it further explains that White Len cannot always accurately replicate someone to make them 100% identical to their original self, since Nanaya under White Len cannot use the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

In Melty Blood, Nanaya Shiki appears as Tohno Shiki’s anxieties given form. He uses the Nanaya martial arts that Shiki should have learned, but unlike Shiki he does not possess the mystic eyes of death perception. -Tsukihime Dokuhan Plus Period

link is here.

we know this is talking about White Len's Tatari and not Wallachia's because Wallachia even while directly in control of a Tatari Nanaya body himself was able to utilize the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

we do know however that even Wallachia's Tatari can have limits compared to the original like him not being able to draw out Tatari Arcueid's full power.

with that being said, the basic chain should go True Form Nanaya > Wallachia Tatari Nanaya > White Len Tatari Nanaya. and yes they all have their own feats.

starting with White Len Nanaya, he stalemates Kouma and is able to slice his neck physically without MEoDP, but this is especially impressive because Nanaya was injured from prior fights and his combat abilities were directly stated to be hindered, along with killing White Len who was sustaining his existence and leaving town beyond the region the Tatari rumors allowed him to keep existing.

he then kills White Len and goes to fight Kouma, despite his existence rapidly fading, being outside of town and being injured from previous fights that hindered his abilities and of course with no MEoDP. despite all of this, it results in a stalemate mutual kill.

we actually see how Nanaya would fare against Kouma in Act Cadenza without him being injured, but still killing White Len. he basically seems to make light of Kouma after killing him and then fades away since White Len no longer can supply him since she is dead.

so Nanaya as White Len's Tatari defeated Kishima easily in Act Cadenza, while in the Actress Again timeline he was injured from previous fights and had his abilities hindered and still stalemated Kouma.

Nanaya as a Tatari spawned by Wallachia to deal with intruders was able to toy with 50% Arcueid casually to the point she was forced to summon herself as Archetype-Earth to kill him the moment he decided to go on the offensive and rush her.

while we don't get any AP feats here, it should be considered to be likely higher since Wallachia can make more accurate representations of Tataris than White Len.

and since this is a casual Nanaya effortlessly dodging 50% Arc with his hands in his pockets even, his speed should be regarded as above White Len Nanaya even at his peak.

as for the real Nanaya, he has too many feats to list here, but you all seem to accept that he demolished a full power serious Nrvnqsr and cut Arcueid into 17 pieces before she can react for a long time now, so I'm going to skip over those.

what's way more impressive is that he was capable of blitzing a full power Crimson Red Vermillion Akiha with her power restored on top of absorbing Roa.

White Len also needs to get her AP and durability upgraded to scale to her Tatari Nanaya, which you guys forgot to do, since she's still Small Building level for competing with him.

also for a small little addition, I think Roa's description for his prime key should be slightly updated. it mentions that he defeats Altrouge, but it should also mention that he killed all of the True Ancestors, further solidifying his power.

summary:

Sion: Attack Potency: Island level (Damaged Wallachia using 30% of Arcueid's power and deflected an attack from Zepia meant to hurt or potentially kill Arcueid) | Island level (Significantly superior to her normal self. Capable of trading blows with the Night of Wallachia and his various Tatari Summons)

Durability: Island level (Took attacks from Wallachia using 30% of Arcueid's power) | Island level (Can take hits from and should be comparable to Zepia and significantly above her normal self)

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Kept up with Wallachia using 30% of Arcueid's power and intercepted an attack from Zepia) | Massively Hypersonic (Significantly superior to her normal self. Can keep up with Zepia and his various Tatari attacks and could hit a hesitant Shiki Tohno)

Striking Strength: Island level | Island level

you can also put that small country stuff or whatever. don't know what that's about so I can't comment much.

Akiha Tohno: Attack Potency: Small Building level (Can rip out SHIKI's heart) | Island level (After regaining half of her life force and no longer being only able to only use the bare minimum of her powers, she is far stronger and defeated Sion) | Island level (As Crimson Red Vermillion, she defeated 50% Arcueid) | At least Island level (Inverted completely and reached full power. Stated to likely exceed a rampaging Arcueid no longer restricting her bloodlust and would be significantly superior to her suppressed Melty Blood self)

Durability Small Building level | Island level | Island level | at least Island level

Speed: Massively Hypersonic (Can keep up with and kill SHIKI) | Massively Hypersonic (Can keep up with and defeat Sion) | Massively Hypersonic (Can keep up with and defeat 50% Arcueid) | Massively Hypersonic (Superior to other versions of herself and should be comparable to full power Red Arcueid)

Key: Weakened | Base | Restricted Crimson Red Vermillion | Full Power/Complete Inversion

Shiki: Attack Potency: Small Building level (Traded blows with Roa and easily killed Nero's weaker beasts, managed to smash apart a glass table with his head), ignores conventional durability with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception (By cutting along the lines and points of death of something, he realizes their death and ultimately destroys them) | Island level (Can severely harm Vampire Sion), ignores conventional durability with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. | Attack Potency: Island level (As a Tatari of White Len, he defeated Kishima Kouma with little issue and stalemated him in Actress Again while injured and hindered from previous fights) | Island Level (As a Tatari of Wallachia, he should be superior to his White Len manifestation as a more accurate Tatari.), ignores conventional durability with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. | Island Level (The real Nanaya should be superior to his Tatari manifestations), ignores conventional durability with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

Durability: Small Building level ( (Was bitten by Nero's weaker beasts with no damage) | Island level (Withstood attacks from Vampire Sion) | Island level | Island level | Island level

Striking Strength: Small Building level | Island Level (Can harm Sion) | Island level (Sliced Kouma's neck) | Island level | Island level

Speed: Subsonic (Can move faster than the eye can see) with Massively Hypersonic reactions and combat speed (Traded blows with Roa and could block attacks from Ciel) | Massively Hypersonic (Can speed blitz Vampire Sion and react to a sudden close range attack from Tatari Arcueid and kill her before her attack lands) | Massively Hypersonic (Can keep up with Kouma) | Massively Hypersonic (Casually toyed with 50% Arcueid to the point she was forced to summon Archetype-Earth to kill him) | Massively Hypersonic (Cut Arcueid into seventeen pieces before she could react. Reacted to Nrvnqsr mid-charge and easily defeated him despite bleeding to death due to Tohno being nearly eaten alive by his beasts. Moved faster than a full power Akiha could track)

Weakness: Shiki can't suppress his supernatural vision on his own, relying on the Mystic Eyes Killer, which will eventually be rendered obsolete over time. Shiki must get into close range to fully utilize his Mystic Eyes. Trying to visualize more complex concepts is very taxing on him mentally and can potentially even kill him. He cannot fully use his abilities without giving in to his Nanaya instincts on the brink of death. | Likely none notable. Shiki by the time of Melty Blood can destroy the metaphysical information of Tatari and is stated by Sion to probably be able to kill concepts beyond human comprehension | Lacks the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception | None notable | None notable

Key: Tsukihime Tohno | Melty Blood Tohno | White Len Tatari Nanaya | Wallachia Tatari Nanaya | True Form Nanaya/Tsukihime Nanaya

Roa: Island Level (Killed all of the True Ancestors except for Arcueid. Defeated Altrouge Brunestud, one of the strongest Dead Apostle Ancestors, who could fight Pre-Tsukihime Arcueid Brunestud)

Key: Prime

 

[Jibz]

My dumbass thought this was bleach

following!

 

[CrystalValley]

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[FantaRin_The_First]

I have been waiting a thousand years for this thread!

Following, plus, I agree with this content revision thread... if that's worth anything.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

The manga isn't canon though, too many differences

 

[CrystalValley]

The manga isn't canon though, too many differences

the Melty Blood manga is basically identical and just combines the routes and adds slightly more detail on things. and this website treats both the Melty Blood and Tsukihime manga as canon since they actively use parts of them in their profiles. so by the standards of this website they cannot be rejected on the basis of canonicity.

base Sion also fights Wallachia Arcueid in the game and Tohno beats down her vampire self still.

also Tsukihime routes in general operate significantly different from each other just going off of the VN routes alone. different rules and stuff. the manga is just another one that's altered a bit no differently from VN routes.

 

[John985]

It is canon, because Nasuverse is a multiverse. Already send this to discord, but busy because they are playing Elden Ring......

Personally dont have problem with the upgrade.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

Seems fine to me, agree as well

 

[Paul_Frank]

Idk why the manga wouldn't be canon yeah

Anyway, my only possible issue would be with using the events of the character ladders to justify stuff, because those fights will play out the exact opposite way if you're playing as the other character involved, this is less important for the Nanaya part (since him being above or relative to Kouma while super weak is still found even in Kouma's side so the rest of the stuff still follows either way), but for the Akiha part, she goes from being able to beat 50% Arcueid on her side, to Arc beating her, likely casually considering she follows it up with her joking comment about it feeling good, like hitting a missile back out of the sky or whatever

For the Roa part, it seems like Arc wasn't trying to say he killed the True Ancestors directly, but more like his actions caused their death, because she's the one who killed them according to plusperiod, so I'm not sure it should be included in the justification, unless you say he just killed like, a small handful since she killed most of the remaining like, 100, but idk how useful that would be for scaling considering I don't think True Ancestors really have a concrete power level, it'd be better to just scale off Altrouge and stuff

After flushing out all of the Fallen Ancestors, she was commanded to start hunting Dead Apostles as well.
However, when Roa tricked her into drinking his blood, she went berserk and wiped out most of the few remaining True Ancestors, prompting her to seal herself within the reality marble known as the Millennium Castle Brunestud

I'm fine with the scaling aside from that, but if people are fine with using the ladders then I don't mind much

 

[Chariot190]

but busy because they are playing Elden Ring......

Based.

 

[CrystalValley]

Anyway, my only possible issue would be with using the events of the character ladders to justify stuff, because those fights will play out the exact opposite way if you're playing as the other character involved

i think you misunderstand. the scans i took was from their individual story modes, not versus opening quotes and win quotes. there is no story for instance where Arcueid defeats Akiha instead. you could select Arcueid in versus mode or something and she may have a special line for fighting Akiha, but Arcueid canonically never beats Akiha in any Melty Blood story mode. also the fights in between the story segments aren't canon and are just a random gauntlet of characters for the player to fight through that have no actual dialogue. either that, or I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here which is possible since i'm half asleep.

For the Roa part, it seems like Arc wasn't trying to say he killed the True Ancestors directly, but more like his actions caused their death, because she's the one who killed them according to plusperiod

i know what you're talking about, but that specific plus period statement seemed to be trying to avoid plot twist and stuff of that nature when reading the rest of the paragraph. we also have another statement saying Roa killed all of the True Ancestors when Tohno is fused with him and has his memories. in the Ciel Route

Arcueid initially said it was her who did it because she felt like that it was, since she's the one that made Roa that powerful in the first place and is the initial cause of all off them dying. i think these two statements together make it pretty clear. especially since Tohno's internal dialogue should have no reason to be lying.

 

[HyperZero95]

I agree with everything. Also Ryougi should probably have a MB key in this case, since she defeated MB Tohno.

 

[CrystalValley]

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[CrystalValley]

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[Violatas]

OP makes sense

 

[Kenboxx]

About the Remake Tohno was able to kill Roa lower body from range Nasu said so in a statement


4Gamer: The scene in that passageway was one of the scenes that I was thinking about while playing. By the way, Shiki was killing Lore's legs along with the corridor, but does that mean anything? Mr. Nasu: There is a proper meaning. Also, I think everyone has doubts that there is only one route for Arqueid ... but that too.

Tohno also saw into Vlov past by focusing on his point of death point during the Ciel route

Are these feats from the remake going to be added to Tohno page?
Or how about the other characters like Ciel and Arcuied

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

About the Remake Tohno was able to kill Roa lower body from range Nasu said so in a statement


4Gamer: The scene in that passageway was one of the scenes that I was thinking about while playing. By the way, Shiki was killing Lore's legs along with the corridor, but does that mean anything? Mr. Nasu: There is a proper meaning. Also, I think everyone has doubts that there is only one route for Arqueid ... but that too.

Tohno also saw into Vlov past by focusing on his point of death point during the Ciel route

Are these feats from the remake going to be added to Tohno page?
Or how about the other characters like Ciel and Arcuied

Hmm... I am not an expert or anything, but... I assume that anything from the remake isn't going to be added until we get a complete fan translation that has been double-checked by others so VBW can avoid another SAO situation in where a person gets something (higher ap/higher speed/etc etc) due to a mistranslation, which is probs a mess-and-a-half when it happens.

 

[John985]

From what I know, the remake is gonna get a new profile.

 

[CrystalValley]

About the Remake Tohno was able to kill Roa lower body from range Nasu said so in a statement


4Gamer: The scene in that passageway was one of the scenes that I was thinking about while playing. By the way, Shiki was killing Lore's legs along with the corridor, but does that mean anything? Mr. Nasu: There is a proper meaning. Also, I think everyone has doubts that there is only one route for Arqueid ... but that too.

Tohno also saw into Vlov past by focusing on his point of death point during the Ciel route

Are these feats from the remake going to be added to Tohno page?
Or how about the other characters like Ciel and Arcuied

Remake is a different canon and fodder to the original and Tsukihime with its Melty Blood feats

i also will not be involved in any Remake CRT since i think the remake is trash and also don't feel like debating gary stue random ass MEoDP asspull stuff that makes no logical sense, among many other pretentious but unimpressive things.

sorry if this came off as ranty. the current Nasuverse canon makes me lose brain cells every time i read or hear about it.

 

[CrystalValley]

oh yeah, speaking of the Remake, Tohno's profile picture needs to change since his original canon profile has his Remake self as the picture. there's plenty of high quality Melty Blood PNGs out there I could get to replace that with, along with a higher quality Nanaya picture potentially.

 

[HyperZero95]

So is this accepted?

 

[Kenboxx]

I understand not wanting to add anything from the remake but this was from a interview that Nasu did the writer of Tsukihime he said Shiki killed Roa lower from range in a interview so I think we can take it as fact sense Nasu conformed that this is what happened but it makes more sense that Remake Tohno gets his own page sense they are not in the same canon

But if Remake is getting it's own page then I guess changing the profile picks to the 2000s Tsukihime or using melty blood picture makes more sense

Also Randomguy why do you not like the remake ? Arcueid route was mostly the same and the Ciel route needed to be change sense it was mostly the same as the Arcueid route for 65 percent of it

I'm guessing you did not like the added abilities Nasu gave to Tohno ? sense you called him a gary stue

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Honestly, I think everyone should hold off on making any Tsukihime Remake page until the second half of the remake is released... Sure, Remake!Arcueid probably needs a page of her own since she showcases brand new haxs and abilities that Old!Arcuied has never even hinted of having, Ciel as well, but again... There is only one notable fan group that is translating the damn novel, to my knowledge, which is slow cuz Nasu had the 'bright' idea of limiting it to consoles only... If I'm allowed to guess why Randomguy doesn't like the novels, it is cuz of it only being limited to consoles and the fact that the remake only came with two routes so we have to wait god knows how long to get the complete Tsukihime Remake Story.

Music is a banger, tho, and I hope to goodness that somebody finds a way to add all of the remake music to the old tsukihime vn.

 

[CrystalValley]

I understand not wanting to add anything from the remake but this was from a interview that Nasu did the writer of Tsukihime he said Shiki killed Roa lower from range in a interview so I think we can take it as fact sense Nasu conformed that this is what happened but it makes more sense that Remake Tohno gets his own page sense they are not in the same canon

But if Remake is getting it's own page then I guess changing the profile picks to the 2000s Tsukihime or using melty blood picture makes more sense

Also Randomguy why do you not like the remake ? Arcueid route was mostly the same and the Ciel route needed to be change sense it was mostly the same as the Arcueid route for 65 percent of it

I'm guessing you did not like the added abilities Nasu gave to Tohno ? sense you called him a gary stue

i'm not going to derail much but in essence, it's the same as what many other old fans have issues with.

it's basically cringe Fate/Moon Princess instead of Tsukihime.

pink haired magical girl looking loli dead apostles and titty doctors ruin the entire atmosphere of Tsukihime and Dead Apostles as a whole, which were supposed to come off as serious dangerous and threatening.

the pacing is like Fate/Stay Night now, aka bloat incarnate that destroys the pacing.

overly long and obnoxious dating scene in the Arc route that doesn't add anything to anything.

the designs are shit and most are straight up just recolored Fate characters. the idea of Roa is especially dumb, since Roa looks like "dollarstore Aizen" as someone put it, but his long haired self is SHIKI, even though its the reverse in the original. if anything the punk short hair Roa look in the Remake fits the punk ass personality of SHIKI, not Roa the intellectual. basically the impression i got was that Nasu was salty that the manga author had some better ideas than him like how he handled Roa's appearance change and tried to do his own rendition of that in the Remake, but it made no sense and was obnoxiously dumb, like everything else he writes these days.

Vlov is a generic and bad replacement for Nrvnqsr, since Nrvnqsr subverted expectations of what a vampire could be and was intimidating. though I like Vlov's design.

old Nasuverse, ignoring Extra and CCC was focused on things beyond action and the supernatural world was a place meant to be kept in secret. now we have giant explosions, massive city wide damage. kaiju titty Arcueid, etc. while the original Tsukihime has way higher destructive feats like the moon drop, it happened once and took place in a reality marble within a reality marble that the public eye would never see. but yeah the Remake is terrible and not Tsukihime. as a standalone series, it would be acceptable. but as a remake it's trash. Tsukihime didn't need a remake. Tsukihime needed a remaster, which just meant updated visuals to Melty Blood art style and more than 10 soundtracks, along with maybe touching up some of the writing in some places. pretentious things like "Idea Blood" and Luminus Form, Ciel's pretentious arsenal, etc all are unnecessary and just trying too hard to be cool. Nasu did say he was targeting a younger modern audience, so i'm not surprised. he's a hack anyways who only made the original series of the 90s and earlier 2000s good on accident, since he had to make them good or fail financially, meaning his personal shit taste couldn't influence his works much, along with again, just getting lucky.

as someone I saw on Youtube once said, at least the OG Tsukhime will be untainted by the current canon and won't get a crossover with cringe like Fate/GO and that is now the Remake's problem, so it's a win in one way, so i'm happy the canons are split (and they are regardless of what this website tells you). so we basically have old Nasuverse and Waifuverse now. and i can safely just ignore the latter.

i think one comment is fine, but if you feel like replying, go to my wall since anymore of this will probably count as derailing, and I want an end to this thread soon.

 

[CrystalValley]

really don't want this thread to die with everyone pretty much agreeing at this point. bump.

 

[Confluctor]

I don't know the verse too well, but reading through the post and some replies I got the gist of it. Should be good imo.

 

[CrystalValley]

I don't know the verse too well, but reading through the post and some replies I got the gist of it. Should be good imo.

hey thanks. is there anyone else capable of editing the pages for me, since my old account way before I came on here i don't have the login details for anymore? i'd be ok with @HyperZero95 doing it if he's up for it. but anyone will do honestly.

 

[Confluctor]

@Antvasima

 

[CrystalValley]

@Antvasima

oh after a lot of digging i just found my old login details so i can edit the pages now. different username but has the same email. so i think i can do these now. sorry for the trouble. but I'll wait for Ant's input since you already tagged him.

 

[Antvasima]

@Phoenks @CrimsonStarFallen @FDrybob @Iapitus_The_Impaler

Would any of you be willing to help out with evaluating this please?

 

[Antvasima]

oh after a lot of digging i just found my old login details so i can edit the pages now. different username but has the same email. so i think i can do these now. sorry for the trouble. but I'll wait for Ant's input since you already tagged him.

What is your current Fandom username? If you have a registered email address for your RandomGuy wiki account, you should be able to ask for a password reset message for it.

 

[CrystalValley]

What is your current Fandom username? If you have a registered email address for your RandomGuy wiki account, you should be able to ask for a password reset message for it.

i got my old account recovered, it's just a different username (CrystalValley) but the same email. i could edit it now if this is all accepted, which it seems to be, but i'll still wait to be sure. sorry for wasting your time over this. i would've named my forum account after it, but I hadn't accessed it in a while and didn't think I'd be making CRTs.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so you do not have an account there named "RandomGuy"? If so, I should preferably rename your account in this forum accordingly, or you could rename your wiki account to RandomGuy, RandomGuy123, or something similar.

Also, let's wait a bit for input from the other members that I called for, who know Tsukihime reasonably well, before you apply this revision.

 

[CrystalValley]

Okay, so you do not have an account there named "RandomGuy"? If so, I should preferably rename your account in this forum accordingly, or you could rename your wiki account to RandomGuy, RandomGuy123, or something similar.

Also, let's wait a bit for input from the other members that I called for, who know Tsukihime reasonably well, before you apply this revision.

yeah, i'm waiting. i'll probably try and rename my fandom account, but if I can't, i'd be fine with renaming myself here.

edit: changed my name so it says "Crystal Valley aka RandomGuy" if that works.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You only have one single allowed name change in the Fandom site though, so please be careful to not waste it by misspelling your intended new username or somesuch. Also, RandomGuy is likely taken already, due to being rather common, so you should probably use some numbers after it, such as RandomGuy123. You can try with just RandomGuy first though.

 

[CrystalValley]

Okay. You only have one single allowed name change in the Fandom site though, so please be careful to not waste it by misspelling your intended new username or somesuch. Also, RandomGuy is likely taken already, due to being rather common, so you should probably use some numbers after it, such as RandomGuy123. You can try with just RandomGuy first though.

hm, yeah a lot of them were taken. you can just change my current name on here to CrystalValley. i honestly don't care. i named myself this because I didn't expect to be here for long initially. again sorry for the trouble.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so then.

 

[Violatas]

I'm decently knowledgeable in Tsukihime and Melty, and everything here makes sense. Always felt a good deal of the chars should have higher ratings. Melty Blood more than anything offers the best instances of this as is already posted.

Will try to be more active for any future CRTs regarding this verse.

 

[Phoenks]

I agree with all of these changes. Doesn't seem controversial at all.

The Shiki picture can be changed. His last one was just horrendous, so I replaced it for the time being.

As for the remake, it's okay from what I've seen. Not as good as the original imo, but it feels fresher with the art and music. I didn't finish it though.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you both for helping out.