Ok. Nonagrgression was debunked by me here and Ant agreed https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...r/Sonic_Advance_3:_Super_Sonic_Speed_Recalced.
Appeal to authority, Ant himself states he shouldn't be final proof for anything because of how busy he is and the fact he doesn't know about the verse, which is why he relies on staff, your other argument is just a baseless claim
Actually you know what Matt. I am actually curious on how you see this, regardless of outlier or space-time shenanigans in the rift, do you also think immeasurable speed characters can not dodge temporal omnipresent attacks assuming they are aimed for them and they intersect with the attack’s path? (Also no range shenanigans, purely speed)
How many times should I say it. THE THREAD IS ABOUT IMMEASURABLE SONIC. JUST IMMEASURABLE. SO IT'S NOT DERAILMENT. And you're benign biased here, you didn't even disprove any arguments, And my second argument wasn't a baseless claim, stars moving in the distance aren't considered valid here. For instance, Mega Man was downgraded from Dwarf Star cause his calc used stars in the background for basis.
What the **** does immesurable Sonic have to do with your incorrect claims of Sonic being only FTL? Yelling and saying "no u" isn't a point, Megaman was a AP calc, not a speed one, the definition of a false equivalency and the proof you are biased because you are trying to downgrade Sonic because your franchise got downgraded, stop with your derrail and scummy behavior or otherwise there will be consequences, be a better person
Hyperstar debunks your debunk to the Non-agression feat in the comments though. Idk if you' exoskeleton seen it.
I'm sorry if I'm missing some context, but, even if they should be getting no matter what, we know they can avoid Solaris' attacks with, I don't want to say without effort, but with ease. We have to find out why that is, though, I assume.
I'm not arguing Immeasurable as an outlier.
Combat and travel speed should also be immeasurable. Silver can catch Solaris's meteors with a hand gesture, Shadow can dodge Solaris's attacks while hitting him with his own, and Sonic can ram into Solaris's core from dozens of meters away before the ladder can react
In the revision threads for Immeasurable speed, many other staff members pretty much agreed that Immeasurable was effectively "faster than causality" and would allow characters to dodge attacks that have "already hit them" in the past.
My point here is that that specifically is never shown or communicated. They are shown perfectly capable of getting hit. Without ever dodging afterward
Well, "afterwards" doesn't really make sense from an Immeasurable perspective but let's say we reduce the problem to 2 Dimensions of space. If space is Up/Down and Left/Right then time would be Forward/Backward meaning a temporally omnipresent attack would look like a infinitely long cylinder. This doesn't mean that being hit is now impossible, it just means they now have the ability to dodge an attack that would be hitting them at every moment in time otherwise.
If possible, it would require mechanics that are far beyond the scope of a Sonic game.
But you do agree that with immeasurable speed you can dodge temporal omnipresent attacks right? Meaning we only have to prove his attacks are temporally omnipresent?
Could you adress how this post doesn't prove his attacks are temporaly onmipresent?
Whenever Solaris takes damage to his armor, it will show even after you switch hedgehogs. This is also true with his lasers. You switch while he’s firing them and they’ll appear for who you’re now playing as too.
That does not change what I said. Solaris is temporally omnipresent so the first part is no surprise. And the second part will also be true because he is fighting them all at different points in time.
That's not true. We are only going by what is shown, while you are making an assumption that puts the character at the highest speed. You need more convincing evidence than that.
Yes, explicitly states that they will destroy Solaris in past, present and future, three hedgehogs, three points in time. How is that different than what I am saying?
This is an assumption. Just because he is in all times doesn't mean he is firing lasers in all time. Prove it. Show evidence. Don't assume. From what we see, this is only true for the three points in time when he is fighting the hedgehogs. If your assumption was right, we would have seen the meteor as a straight line.
If his assumption were right, then the hedgehogs and Solaris would have immeasurable speed and be fast enough to not see a straight line.
