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Do characters that exist before the concept of time qualify as having immeasurable speed?
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NoDo characters that exist before the concept of time qualify as having immeasurable speed?
I see. Then what do you think their speed would be?
Just Unknown if they don't have any speed feat.I see. Then what do you think their speed would be?
Would it simply be indeterminate?
What needs to be done here?Can somebody remind me with a summary of the discussion here thus far please?
Ah right I forgot about this. Apologies. I’ll give a run down of what I’m proposing in a bit.What needs to be done here?
Ah sorryGuys, please leave the side questions alone for now. I don't want anyone getting confused by what im proposing here.
Okay so to give a summary of my thread's proposals, I am advocating that physically transcending space and time to travel into higher dimensions and back should qualify for immeasurable speed, under the context that it is a speed feat and NOT an ability.Can somebody remind me with a summary of the discussion here thus far please?
maybeDoesn't this make low 1-Cs immeasurable by default?
I don't think so. This proposal is to allow characters who can physically transcend time and space with movement to qualify for immeasurable speed.Doesn't this make low 1-Cs immeasurable by default?
I think if you are Low 1-C means you are either or Higher D or 3D (or whatever) who can destroy 5D universe/multiverse/reallityI don't think so. This proposal is to allow characters who can physically transcend time and space with movement to qualify for immeasurable speed.
I don't think being Low 1-C automatically entails that. But that's a different discussion.
The kind of higher dimensions im speaking about are ones that are proven within the particular verse itself to transcend space and time instead of simply being a higher dimension.Mathematically speaking, moving in higher spatial dimensions is not an automatic speed feat at all, so I hope that you refer to higher-dimensional temporal dimensions.
The latter case is of course not something I didn't consider. If it's an outlier for the particular verse compared to general speed statistics, that's more or less a separate issue.The only relevant issue for immeasurable speed is transcending linear time and treating it like a physical dimension to move around in. Moving beyond the confines of a specific space-time continuum does not tend to automatically fall under that banner, and such enormous speeds are usually contradicted by the narrative outside of this in my experience.
No problem.Also, my apologies with this as im aware you are sick at the moment Ant. I just want to get some answers and clarifications on this topic.
I think it would be better for these higher dimensional planes to have their own transcendent space and time. That is it's not just another spatial dimension or axis of movement. We are talking about a dimension with reality fiction transcendence.This is where the problem comes now. Let’s say Character A comes from a verse where there exists many higher dimensions, all of which are proven to transcend space and time. And Character A is able to physically travel to these higher dimensions freely, roam through them and can travel back to his 3-D realm. Again, as a speed feat and not
I think what OP is trying to explain is...Outside of time does not mean being superior to it, and all that, for example, 5-dimensional velocity would mean in practice is v=√(s1^2 + s2^2 + s3^2 + s4^2 +s5^2)/t , if I remember correctly.
To clarify, this is exactly what im talking about. That the higher dimension in question transcends both space and time. Its not just some simple higher dimension, but transcends both time and space and is superior to the lower dimensions. And the character in question can freely travel to said higher superior dimensions and back.I think it would be better for these higher dimensional planes to have their own transcendent space and time. That is it's not just another spatial dimension or axis of movement. We are talking about a dimension with reality fiction transcendence.
This higher plane has more than one temporal dimension along with space.
What you describe sounds merely as the character entering a realm in which speed doesn't make sense and then coming back into the normal world. I don't see how that has relevance for speed or makes Immeasurable.To clarify, this is exactly what im talking about. That the higher dimension in question transcends both space and time. Its not just some simple higher dimension, but transcends both time and space and is superior to the lower dimensions. And the character in question can freely travel to said higher superior dimensions and back.