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I'm (Still) Based [Bleach Edition]

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BleachHub's video about Tsukishima and Ginjo been above Dangai Ichigo's level is supported by the manga.

Arc's scaling that puts Shikai Yamamoto above God Aizen and his "reason" for the Fullbringers not scaling makes no sense.

Shunsui said Tokinada's Shikai flames were weaker than the original Ryūjin Jakka, but Yhwach said Yamamoto was weaker with one arm than his two arm prime form that Aizen cheated to defeat. It was base Yamamoto who tanked his own shikai and Aizen never damage two arms Yamamoto. Yamamoto let himself be cut to catch Aizen's KS. Aizen barely escaped a no chant Kido from Base Yamamoto.
 
AppleLord said:
BleachHub's video about Tsukishima and Ginjo been above Dangai Ichigo's level is supported by the manga.

Arc's scaling that puts Shikai Yamamoto above God Aizen and his "reason" for the Fullbringers not scaling makes no sense.

Shunsui said Tokinada's Shikai flames were weaker than the original Ryūjin Jakka, but Yhwach said Yamamoto was weaker with one arm than his two arm prime form that Aizen cheated to defeat. It was base Yamamoto who tanked his own shikai and Aizen never damage two arms Yamamoto. Yamamoto let himself be cut to catch Aizen's KS. Aizen barely escaped a no chant Kido from Base Yamamoto.
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Bro get your unrelated derail out of here.

This thread has nothing to do with the Fullbringers.

Put it in general if you're that pressed.
 
AppleLord said:
BleachHub's video about Tsukishima and Ginjo been above Dangai Ichigo's level is supported by the manga.
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Yeah, Byakuya in the anime defeats both dangai Ichigo and Monster Aizen according to you, and that Byakuya is weaker than Shikai Yama with one arm cuz its stated in a novel or a databook that even with one arm Yama is still stronger than any captain, while unmasked and the manga say Monster Aizen transcends everything including Yama, so that scaling contradicts unmasked and the manga itself
Arc7Kuroi said:
Put it in general if you're that pressed.
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yeah its a derailment
 
YukaSama4 said:
Yeah, Byakuya in the anime defeats both dangai Ichigo and Monster Aizen according to you,
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Is scaling bro, you have a dicken Goku thumbnail in the profile.
YukaSama4 said:
and that Byakuya is weaker than Shikai Yama with one arm cuz its stated in a novel or a databook
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It isn't stated to be one arm Yamamoto but you can provide the scan for it.
YukaSama4 said:
that even with one arm Yama is still stronger than any captain,
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Yes, and doesn't disprove anything.
YukaSama4 said:
while unmasked and the manga say Monster Aizen transcends everything including Yama, so that scaling contradicts unmasked and the manga itself
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Aizen says a lot of things. If Aizen said he was Kazui's original father you would believe that too.
YukaSama4 said:
yeah its a derailment
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Then don't bring it up again. I will make a CRT about the Fullbringers after this is result. Meanwhile, You can read all the proof Fullbringers > Dangai posted on CV by this user.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Practice what you preach and stop bringing it up goon.
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I did. But three people posted after I stoped. I didn't had any intention of commenting, so to the new comers practice what you preach.

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I agree, yhwach literally tried everything to disrupt the balance. which lead him to seek out the power to do so forcefully. the only problem being who scales to that or not.
Personally, I feel as though this thread has become a meme with all these derailments completely irrelevant. Honestly it’s overshadowing the true intentions of the post ,As well as treading on the work Arc7 has done with his/her in depth reasoning attached with official source material.

also with the new arc underway which could potentially shed light , drastically affect bleach’s tier it wouldn’t be wise to rush anything to be accepted
 
So basically we're just waiting for AKM and Soldier Blue to give their opinions on this.

Can we also tag a few more sysops just in case?
 
ElixirBlue said:
Alright. Could you give a brief summary of the thread on (1)whats been agreed on, (2)whats been disagreed on, and lastly, (3)what has yet to be decided on?
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Ichigo: 3-B (Cut the Weakened Reio in half, Yhwach believes this Ichigo is capable of killing Weakened Reio, capable of cutting through Soul King Yhwach’s Reiryoku, and is vastly above most everyone else in the verse), 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C with Bankai (Cut Soul King Yhwach in half, killing him twice, Yhwach admitted that he feared Ichigo’s Bankai) | At least 3-B (Hollow powers amp Ichigo’s stats), 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C with Gran Rey Cero Getsuga Tenshou (Pierced Soul King Yhwach’s defenses), higher with Bankai

Keys: True Zanpakuto | Merged Hollow Form

Aizen: At least 3-B, likely 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C (Capable of cutting through, Soul King Yhwach’s Reiryoku, put up a decent fight against Yhwach, and is comfortably above most everyone else in the verse)

Keys: TYBW

Yhwach: 3-B (Superior to Weakened Reio) | 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C (After acquiring all of Reio’s power, he is stated capable of destroying, the Bleach universe, multiple times, at least vastly stronger than Senna’s explosion energy output, since he can destroy the Dangai which survived the explosion with no visible damage)

Keys: With The Almighty | Soul King

Reio: 3-B (Prevents the collapse of the Bleach universe), 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C by removing Dangai (By destroying the boundaries between the realms, the entire universe collapses)

Keys: Weakened

Orihime: at least 3-B,likely 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C with Shun Shun Rikka (Blocked Soul King Yhwach’s attacks multiple times and protected herself from True Shikai Hollowfied Ichigo’s power)

Thousand Year Blood War Arc


this above has been agreed on


No disagreements so far

nothing remains to be decided
 
ElixirBlue said:
Alright. Could you give a brief summary of the thread on (1)whats been agreed on, (2)whats been disagreed on, and lastly, (3)what has yet to be decided on?
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1) God tiers scaling from 3-B (off of Reio’s stability) up to 3-A, possibly Low 2-C (off of Yhwach’s statements).
2) There was disagreement on Mugetsu scaling to which we resolved it by not scaling Mugetsu to it at all.
3) Nothing, there’s unanimous agreement for the current OP.

Thanks for commenting
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
1) God tiers scaling from 3-B (off of Reio’s stability) up to 3-A, possibly Low 2-C (off of Yhwach’s statements).
2) There was disagreement on Mugetsu scaling to which we resolved it by not scaling Mugetsu to it at all.
3) Nothing, there’s unanimous agreement for the current OP.

Thanks for commenting
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can i go edit the profiles now
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Ichigo: 3-B (Cut the Weakened Reio in half, Yhwach believes this Ichigo is capable of killing Weakened Reio, capable of cutting through Soul King Yhwach’s Reiryoku, and is vastly above most everyone else in the verse), 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C with Bankai (Cut Soul King Yhwach in half, killing him twice, Yhwach admitted that he feared Ichigo’s Bankai) | At least 3-B (Hollow powers amp Ichigo’s stats), 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C with Gran Rey Cero Getsuga Tenshou (Pierced Soul King Yhwach’s defenses), higher with Bankai

Keys: True Zanpakuto | Merged Hollow Form

Aizen: At least 3-B, likely 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C (Capable of cutting through, Soul King Yhwach’s Reiryoku, put up a decent fight against Yhwach, and is comfortably above most everyone else in the verse)

Keys: TYBW

Yhwach: 3-B (Superior to Weakened Reio) | 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C (After acquiring all of Reio’s power, he is stated capable of destroying, the Bleach universe, multiple times, at least vastly stronger than Senna’s explosion energy output, since he can destroy the Dangai which survived the explosion with no visible damage)

Keys: With The Almighty | Soul King

Reio: 3-B (Prevents the collapse of the Bleach universe), 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C by removing Dangai (By destroying the boundaries between the realms, the entire universe collapses)

Keys: Weakened

Orihime: at least 3-B,likely 3-A, likely/possibly Low 2-C with Shun Shun Rikka (Blocked Soul King Yhwach’s attacks multiple times and protected herself from True Shikai Hollowfied Ichigo’s power)

Thousand Year Blood War Arc


this above has been agreed on


No disagreements so far

nothing remains to be decided
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Arc7Kuroi said:
1) God tiers scaling from 3-B (off of Reio’s stability) up to 3-A, possibly Low 2-C (off of Yhwach’s statements).
2) There was disagreement on Mugetsu scaling to which we resolved it by not scaling Mugetsu to it at all.
3) Nothing, there’s unanimous agreement for the current OP.

Thanks for commenting
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Glad things got all sorted out if there's no more contentions I agree, though I believe I already expressed that with the initial look as well
 
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