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Throwing his sword at Pikachu would only be if he knows about static. But fair point on Ittou Shura probably making it useless.
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Ikki vs Red
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His senses would allow no mistakes. If he's about to f-up his danger sense will pick it up.Greenshifter said:
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This dude's got precog for Pokémon's abilities when they get hit? Ain't that a little bit stretching it?
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But if that's the case then Ikki FRA since there's a big chance Pikachu won't even get the chance to execute a solid sphere of thunder.
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This dude's danger sense picked up the trigger mechanic from Stella Vermillio's High 7-A form. He knew she had to stab herself to turn High 7-A, but everytime he went for the kill, the danger senses picked up danger and so he did not do that. After several tries of danger senses telling him to stop, Stella just spilled the beans and said "Oh well, i thought i'd trick you" and showed that she just needed to think to turn High 7-A.Greenshifter said:
So yes, the danger sense literally picked up different trigger mechanics that Ikki thought he knew.
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Pikachu isn't the only one fighting here, you know.Greenshifter said:
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What did I expect
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@Lephyr I think Pikachu's AoE is the best ones of Red's mons no? He can quite literally finish them all of with Phantom Form with one hit so there's a lot of chance none of them will be able to get anything off.
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Indeed, especially when ikki is so much faster.Greenshifter said:
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Snorlax's EarthquakeGreenshifter said:
Aero is outside his range from the get go
Espeon according to Schnee resists
Besides, which one is it? He takes the 'mons or Red first? If he takes Red first, he has to somehow deal with 6 'mons with range and AoE options.
Again: insane amounts of variables that have to be taken into account.
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If Cal's speed downgrade goes through, they are about equal even with Amp.Firephoenixearl said:
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Not really. Speed downgrade or not, he'll still be much faster due to speed equal.LephyrTheRevanchist said:
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Cal said that the equal is not needed now, so I take it is no longer equal.
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He wouldn't be able to amp himself if Red's faster than base.
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Here.The real cal howard said:
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If Ikki's amps are much faster, then yeah he could.The real cal howard said:
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Wait so, speed is no longer equalized now?LephyrTheRevanchist said:
@Cal
This true? Depending on your answer this thread is getting insta closed for massive stomp.
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@Earl
Better not be thinking it would be a stomp in favour of Ikki. Red is so above Rela+ by this point that he could have argument for insanely high FTL.
Even from Chapter 3 in the manga, his Bulbasaur could fire Solar Beam.
In this fight we have Red from Chapter 300+. You tell me.
Better not be thinking it would be a stomp in favour of Ikki. Red is so above Rela+ by this point that he could have argument for insanely high FTL.
Even from Chapter 3 in the manga, his Bulbasaur could fire Solar Beam.
In this fight we have Red from Chapter 300+. You tell me.
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>Profile: Rel+
>Better not be thinking Ikki, who blitzes people who blitz FTL people, is faster.
Of course, of course, why would anyone think that ikki omega blitzes?
>Better not be thinking Ikki, who blitzes people who blitz FTL people, is faster.
Of course, of course, why would anyone think that ikki omega blitzes?
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LephyrTheRevanchist said:
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Firing Solar Beam doesn't mean "moving as fast as Solar Beam".
Not to mention things like Pikachu being COMPLETELY useless as ikki blitzes electricity to hell and back here.
Not to mention things like Pikachu being COMPLETELY useless as ikki blitzes electricity to hell and back here.
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They are comparable in speed overall.
As early as Chapter 3, Red's 'mons had Relativistic+ fighting speeds.
As early as Chapter 3, Red's 'mons had Relativistic+ fighting speeds.
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Snorlax's Earthquake
Aero is outside his range from the get go
Espeon according to Schnee resists
Besides, which one is it? He takes the 'mons or Red first? If he takes Red first, he has to somehow deal with 6 'mons with range and AoE options.
Again: insane amounts of variables that have to be taken into account.
The mons don't see him so I'm counting on them being disorganized and not even sure what they should target. He can also take one of Red's mons first and then attack Red. How good is Aero's AoE cause a flying Pokémon with no AoE and nowhere to target isn't all that threatening for Ikki and he can just keep him for last. He can inflict organ damage to kill Espeon. Speed unequalized might change this however so I'll hold off for now.
Aero is outside his range from the get go
Espeon according to Schnee resists
Besides, which one is it? He takes the 'mons or Red first? If he takes Red first, he has to somehow deal with 6 'mons with range and AoE options.
Again: insane amounts of variables that have to be taken into account.
The mons don't see him so I'm counting on them being disorganized and not even sure what they should target. He can also take one of Red's mons first and then attack Red. How good is Aero's AoE cause a flying Pokémon with no AoE and nowhere to target isn't all that threatening for Ikki and he can just keep him for last. He can inflict organ damage to kill Espeon. Speed unequalized might change this however so I'll hold off for now.
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Pretty sure Ikki prevented Touka from using Raikiri, a lightning speed attack, because that would've effed him over.Firephoenixearl said:
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Pika's electricity scale to its combat speed, so far above Chapter 3's Solar Beam that is insane.Firephoenixearl said:
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See all those variables you introduced there? Exactly why it is inconclusive imo. Ikki can and may do this, but Red also can and do that. No clear answer.Greenshifter said:
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Funny because Touka had made a back up plan specifically cus she suspected that Ikki would dodge Raikiri and that was not standing ikki, that was ikki who stepped on a crack and was falling over.The real cal howard said:
Touka decided to unleash her trump card.
Touka had already seen Ikki's resilience towards electrocution earlier.
A mere slash would simply be dodged. However, even if he were to dodge Raikiri, her supersonic blade would hit Ikki with a blast through the air.
At close range, the damage from receiving that would be able to take down any single human.
Narration even states it as low as "could simply be dodged".
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If speed is no longer equal, Ikki blitzes even without amps.
