Ikki vs Estarossa

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

• Both at High 6-C (SSSAF Arc Ikki and 3 Commandments Absorbed Mael being used)
• Ittou forms restricted if needed
• Speed Equal
• SBA

Ikki:

Mael:

 

[Ionliosite]

What can Meliodas do against Trackless Step?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

AoE attacks with Hellfire/Darkness?

 

[Schnee_One]

Ikki 224x blitzes and dodges everything thrown at him I guess.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I can restrict Ittou forms if it makes fairer

 

[Ionliosite]

Pretty sure Ikki can disperse the energy of the attack or simply dodge it by seeing into the future that the attack is going to hit him and there is also Ittou Shura.

 

[Ionliosite]

Even without Ittou Forms my point still stands.

Also Flight might be a problem, but that depends on how high Meliodas can go into the air.

I'm going to sleep inb4 Earl appears and says why the match is too one-sided for Meliodas or the reason Ikki wins.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Ikki still has pseudo ittou shura which gives him 48x reaction speed.

But i don't see how mel can win this with the massive skill gap.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Doesn't this Mel have The Love

 

[SpookyShadow]

He does

Mel is pretty skilled too with 3000 years of fighting, I think

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Don't bother with the skill argument. Earl will literally just say that Ikki does everything you've brought up but better with no evidence other than just telling you to read the 150k bytes pillar to the sun that is the skill feats section.

Anyways, since i'm fairly certain that Ikki would have hatred in his heart considering his backstory, he pretty much can't actually hurt Mel.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

@H13

Im sorry what? Dude i've always posted proof for Ikki's feats before. Now im on the phone and his skills are on the profile, like geez cut me some slack, can't do everything.

About hatred, not really. Ikki is over his past, he literally doesn't hate his father who is the cause of his suffering in the first place.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Ikki does skill stomp though. I know about Meliodas' skill and he doesn't come close.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Also pretty sure Ikki doesn't hate anyone. Even his father who shunned him for years and made his life hell. The one person he hates was Amane who literally embodied everything he was against. He was over that by the end of their fight though.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Also by that "backstory" logic Escanor would also have hate for his parents and co who literally tried to kill him. He still countered the Love though.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Because he's a Grace wielder and he's immune to Commandments, so your point is irrelevant

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Isn't love "cannot damage" if you hate the person who possesses love? That's what escanor said at least "why would i hate those who are weaker than me? I only pity them". He meant just estarossa.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I think it's who possess any hate towards anyone. I don't even think other Knights than Gilthunder wanted to avenge Meliodas

 

[Firephoenixearl]

They would still hate someone who was coming in destroying their kingdom and killing their people doe.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Forgot that. Regardless my main point stands.

 

[SpookyShadow]

https://i.gyazo.com/d714d39645ae209e95e1344058a08fcf.png

He didn't specify it to hold hatred for him only. He said hatred at all.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

That feels like it's still implying hate him. Cus "hold hatered before me", feels a bit cringy to go like "anyone who hates their neighbors before me cannot hurt me".

 

[SpookyShadow]

But that's how commandments work :v You can even hate your hamster and it's going to work at you

 

[Firephoenixearl]

No wonder NNT quality dropped

Well as i said, ikki doesn't really hate anyone. Even against someone who was going to destroy what ikki did for the virst 8 volumes of the series, Ikki still ended up helping him. He's a pacifist at heart, the one time he has killed someone (which is later in the series) was cus he had to kill a friend due to having no other way of saving them.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

So

Is this a stomp or..?

 

[Ionliosite]

No wonder NNT quality dropped

Implying Rakudai's quality didn't drop.

 

[SpookyShadow]

So
Is this a stomp or..?

You can put Ikki against Estarossa. This will be fun.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Which key?

 

[SpookyShadow]

3 Commandments absorbed

 

[Siegfried10]

Lol what is this?. Ikki isnt 6-C, and he isnt FTL without Oikage. All his statistics are wanked tremendously lol

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

3 Commandments absorbed

Done

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Lol what is this?. Ikki isnt 6-C, and he isnt FTL without Oikage. All his statistics are wanked tremendously lol

Make a CRT if you disagree with the profile ratings then.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I'm curious what Ikki can do against Estarossa's Full Counter

 

[Epsilon_R]

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Lol what is this?. Ikki isnt 6-C, and he isnt FTL without Oikage. All his statistics are wanked tremendously lol

Considering Stella was dodging SoL light attacks and Ikki is faster than Ouma who blitzes her. Yes he is.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Bump

 

[Siegfried10]

Lol what is this?. Ikki isnt 6-C, and he isnt FTL without Oikage. All his statistics are wanked tremendously lol

Considering Stella was dodging SoL light attacks and Ikki is faster than Ouma who blitzes her. Yes he is.

She was dodging ice attacks from Tsuruya, and if you ask me, it seems like outlier (considering how big of a deal Ikki's FTL feat was).

 

[Firephoenixearl]

She was dodging ice attacks from Tsuruya, and if you ask me, it seems like outlier (considering how big of a deal Ikki's FTL feat was).

Well ugh, she did it for the entirety of a match which had the sole purpose of "how strong had stella become" hard to be an outlier.

And Ikki's feat was "ftl" how much FTL is a bit unknown. And considering at first Stella thought the shadow wasn't moving, i'd say we stick to an actual "SoL" feat being that of stella.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Come on.

Bump

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Can Ikki get past Estarossa's regen?