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Ikki loses his Plot Armor
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This may be a good fight actually.
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Why is PIS a topic?
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Try to guess.
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Because Protag-kun is canonically affected by PIS?Ricsi-viragosi said:
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As is everyone around him, yes.
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Do sba huh? Ikki stomps via type 4 acausality cus desperado.
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That doesn't entail a stomp, really.
The plot can create literall walls to stop peeps from breaking it, affect stuff around Ikki, and Protag still has bishoujo smile to just make Ikki not want to fight.
The plot can create literall walls to stop peeps from breaking it, affect stuff around Ikki, and Protag still has bishoujo smile to just make Ikki not want to fight.
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Bishoujo smile won't work really. Not only can ikki fight while unconscious but he can also resist emotions with sheer willpower. He resisted fear hax that worked on top class mages and desperados with sheer willpower.
Ok then if not a stomp. Ikki takes this. Type 4 invalidates plot directly, and his raw willpower and unconscous state invalidates most types of mindhax. So it's just a matter of time before Ikki just skills his way through everything.
I vote Ikki.
Ok then if not a stomp. Ikki takes this. Type 4 invalidates plot directly, and his raw willpower and unconscous state invalidates most types of mindhax. So it's just a matter of time before Ikki just skills his way through everything.
I vote Ikki.
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Fighting while unconscious and fighting while you don't want to are completely different, as is resisting fear and brainwashing.
Except ressurection and time travel when Protag loses, ya mean?
Except ressurection and time travel when Protag loses, ya mean?
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Unconscious is fighting while having an inactive mind. Emotions and the stuff that are related to the mind are invalidated. You can't make someone unwilling to fight if he's unconscious, that's what Edelweiss tried to do, it didn't work.
The profile says when he dies. He won't die here, he'll just get incapped.
The profile says when he dies. He won't die here, he'll just get incapped.
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He doesn't automatically turn unconscious in fights, and would not want to do so after seeing the smile.
No, it says it works eve after he dies, not only. It also works whenever he's beat, or gets anally abused, and when he got friendzoned.
No, it says it works eve after he dies, not only. It also works whenever he's beat, or gets anally abused, and when he got friendzoned.
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Depends, he has turned unconscious twice in his fights when he was too scared to fight. Also he will turn unconscious eventually if he gets damaged or tired. Also as i said Edelweiss tried to make him unwilling to fight, he still pushed through by saying "I have to do this, for everyone".
Hmm will it work if he gets incaped by a sword that removes his ability to stay conscious and without enough energy to do anything? Also Ikki's acausal. His actions are permanent in terms of time related hax. Even if the boi goes back in time, the moment he reaches the same moment, he'll go unconscious again, cus he can't undo things Ikki has done with time hax.
Hmm will it work if he gets incaped by a sword that removes his ability to stay conscious and without enough energy to do anything? Also Ikki's acausal. His actions are permanent in terms of time related hax. Even if the boi goes back in time, the moment he reaches the same moment, he'll go unconscious again, cus he can't undo things Ikki has done with time hax.
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That... isn't the case here. He will want neither to fight nor to turn off his minds, because he'll already be mindhaxed by then.
It rewinded for less. And the plot just heals him, plus he'd go back to several hours before the fight.
It rewinded for less. And the plot just heals him, plus he'd go back to several hours before the fight.
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He will automatically turn unconscious after trying many times. And how is he gonna do that if he can't even percieve ikki?
Then ikki will kill him again. Plot healing is outta the question cus type 4 acausal action. Going back several hours is ok, but he fight won't last anymore than like 1 minute.
Then ikki will kill him again. Plot healing is outta the question cus type 4 acausal action. Going back several hours is ok, but he fight won't last anymore than like 1 minute.
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He won't, because he'll stop trying to fight, period. By Ikki looking at his face, and smile.
No. The plot can warp reality plain, giving superpowers, erasing things from existence, stopping time and rewinding it. It's not just fate, and even if you argue that Ikki can be unaffected by it, everything else will not.
Fact is, the moment Ikki looks at Protag's face the fight is finished.
No. The plot can warp reality plain, giving superpowers, erasing things from existence, stopping time and rewinding it. It's not just fate, and even if you argue that Ikki can be unaffected by it, everything else will not.
Fact is, the moment Ikki looks at Protag's face the fight is finished.
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The profile doesn't treat it as passive at all. It says he has to say stuff to make people fall in love with him.
Plot in general is just fate but for ficition in a sense. Plot is the story of a fictional story. Everything you mentioned can be done by fate manip (plot manip) so back to where we were, Ikki's not gonna be affected.
Plot in general is just fate but for ficition in a sense. Plot is the story of a fictional story. Everything you mentioned can be done by fate manip (plot manip) so back to where we were, Ikki's not gonna be affected.
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Yes... he has to smile. Which 99% of his sprites do.
Fate manipulation cannot erase someone from existence, manipulate time or give random superpowers. The plot literally manifests itself as an energyblast that knocks milk on Protag for fanservice's sake. So no, it's not just fate manip.
Fate manipulation cannot erase someone from existence, manipulate time or give random superpowers. The plot literally manifests itself as an energyblast that knocks milk on Protag for fanservice's sake. So no, it's not just fate manip.
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He has to "say" a sentence.
It is still the story of a verse. But while stuff like energy blasts may work most of the things that include stuff like causality and time won't.
It is still the story of a verse. But while stuff like energy blasts may work most of the things that include stuff like causality and time won't.
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No..? The "all your base are belong to us" is for unlocking their personalities (guy becomes totally homo, gal goes full tsundere, 'nother gal goes full yandere).
No, not really. Ikki himself would be unaffected, but Protag can very much abuse it at will for himself to get stuff like random powerups, ressurection, etc.
No, not really. Ikki himself would be unaffected, but Protag can very much abuse it at will for himself to get stuff like random powerups, ressurection, etc.
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His profile doesn't say he has this though, at least not that i checked.
Yes, he can abuse it, will he really have the time to abuse it vs an unpercivable enemy that will incap him in 1 shot?
Yes, he can abuse it, will he really have the time to abuse it vs an unpercivable enemy that will incap him in 1 shot?
