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Ice vs Fire! Aokiji vs Meramon

Dragonmasterxyz

VS Battles
FC/OC VS Battles
Retired
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Summary
Kuza, better known by his former alias Aokiji, is a former Marine admiral and the first one to be revealed. He was nominated by Sengoku for the position of fleet admiral. However, after losing the position to Sakazuki, he resigned from the Marines.

Powers and Stats
Tier: 6-B

Name:
Kuzan, moniker "Aokiji" (meaning "Blue Pheasant")

Origin: One Piece

Gender: Male

Age: 47/49

Classification: Human, Former Marine Admiral, Logia Devil Fruit User.

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Enhanced Senses, Busōshoku Haki user (Can augment his defensive and offensive capabilities with an invisible armour, also imbue physical objects), Capable of wielding his ice as a sword or a piercing weapo, Barrier Creation (Protected the Execution Platform from Whitebeard's air quake together with other Admirals), Ice Manipulation, Limited Intangibility (His Logia devil fruit allows him to create, control, and become Ice), Regenerationn (High-Mid, only in his logia form), Body Control (Capable of manipulating the size and shape of his logia-form, one time he opened a hole in his torso that allowed an attack to pass through harmlessly), and he can alter the temperature of his body.

Attack Potency: Country level (Applied this level of energy, and also altered the climate of half of Punk Hazard during his fight with Sakazuki). He can ignore durability to an extent by using his powers to freeze his opponents, making their bodies brittle.

Speed: At least Massively Hypersonic (Casually intercepted two tidal waves and froze them both in a very short time from initially being several hundreds of meters away. Caught Doflamingo and froze him while he was in the middle of an attack.)

Lifting Strength: Class T

Striking Strength:
Country Class

Durability:
Country level via power-scaling (Comparable to Akainu whom he fought ten days straight.) Logia Dispersion makes him difficult to kill unless circumvented.

Stamina: Extremely large. He didn't show any signs of strain or fatigue after fighting the forces of the Whitebeard Pirates for hours at the Marineford Battle, also continuously battled Akainu for ten days before their duel was settled.

Range: Extended melee range, at least several meters with projectiles and tentacles. His freezing can reach dozens of kilometers.

Standard Equipment: His Ao Chari, a bicycle he rides across the ocean (after freezing the water in the way)

Intelligence: Highly adept and battle-hardened combatant with decades of combat experience, very accomplished in the use of his Devil Fruit ability, should be an exceptional battle commander and possess admirably strategic intelligence and tactical ability given he formerly held the rank of Admiral.

Weaknesses: Cannot swim and becomes immobilized if more than half of his body is covered in water (though he can counteract this by freezing water). His Regenerationn is limited to his logia body only, as he was unable to regenerate lower part of his biological left leg after fighting Sakazuki. His ice powers are not quite as effective against heat-based abilities. In the worst-case scenario, his logia powers will not fully defend him against heat, or his ice-based attacks will melt--much like when his Pheasant Beak was canceled out by one of Portgas D. Ace's attacks.

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Haki:
There are normally two types of Haki regular people can tap into: the Kenbunshoku Haki which allows individuals to sense the presence of others, and Busōshoku Haki which allows individuals to create an invisible armor around them. There is however a third type of Haki, Haōshoku Haki, that only a few individuals can use.

  • Busōshoku Haki (Color of Armaments): A form of Haki that allows the user to create an "invisible armor" around themselves. With that, they can protect himself from attacks, and if trained well, use it to deliver stronger attacks. Besides the increase of strength, it is the only form of attack that doesn't involve Kairouseki that can hit any Devil Fruit user, being able to hit the user's original body even if it's a Logia user. It can also be imbue in weapons.
Hie Hie no Mi (Chilly Chilly Fruit): A Logia type Devil Fruit which allows the user to turn himself, as well as his surroundings, into ice. Most attacks are ineffective against the user because its user can simply shatter and reform the ice composing them on impact. Most of this Devil Fruit's attacks require Kuzan to contact his enemy directly to freeze them, yet Kuzan found ways like creating ice spears or ice tentacles to extend his combat range.

  • Ice Age (Glacial Epoch): An attack used only near the ocean or another large area of water. Kuzan places his hand in the water, then in an instant freezes it (along with anything in/on it) completely solid. The actual extent of the ice can stretch for miles and last for over a week. The attack can still be conducted as long as the ice he controls is in contact with both himself and the area he wishes to freeze. This process is nigh-instant, can effect massive areas, and can take weeks to thaw.
  • Ice Time: Kuzan touches his opponent's body, then freezes them into a human ice statue. They can remain alive in a form of suspended animation for some time in their icy prison, but any decent hit will shatter them to pieces. If the ice is melted quickly and carefully the victim can return back to normal without any lasting repercussions.
  • Ice Time Capsule: Using his powers, Kuzan sends a wave of ice along the ground, anything it hits is frozen in place.
  • Ice Saber: Kuzan picks up several thin objects, such as blades of grass, and throws them into the air. He then blows on them with an icy breath that freezes them into a large, jagged sword of ice. He does not always need to pick up objects to create the blade.
  • Ice Ball: Kuzan freezes his opponent in a giant sphere of ice from a distance.
  • Ice Block: Partisan (Ice Mass: Both Thorn Pikes):: Kuzan creates several spears of ice and then hurls them at the enemy.
  • Ice Block: Pheasant Beak (Ice Mass: Violent Pheasant Beak): Arguably the source of Kuzan's nickname. Kuzan releases a massive wave of ice in the shape of a pheasant in a single blast.

Meramon re
A Flame Digimon whose entire body is shrouded in crimson flames. As a Digimon generated from the defensive "Firewall" which prevents illegal entries from the Internet and the like, it possesses a violent temperament like the flames that envelop its body, and tries to incinerate everything it touches. Its fire power is stronger than those of the same species on File Island, and because taming this Digimon is extremely difficult, even if it's tamed, there's no telling when it will bare its fangs.
Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 6-B

Name:
Meramon

Origin: Digimo

Gender: Genderless, but referred to as Male.

Age: Unknown

Classification: Champion level Data Attribute Flame Digimon

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Fire Manipulation, Magma Manipulation, Self Information Manipulation and Reactive Evolution via Overwrite, Statistics Amplification, Weather Manipulation, Intangibility

Attack Potency At least Country level (A thousand times more powerful than its counterpart of the File Island.)

Speed: At least Supersonic+ movement speed with Massively Hypersonic+ Reactions/Combat Speed (Equal to other Champion Digimon such as Dobermo)

Lifting Strength: At least Superhuman

Striking Strength: At least Country Class '

Durability At least Country level

Stamina:
High

Range: Melee range, A few dozen kilometers with projectiles.

Standard Equipment: None

Intelligence: Average, though a pretty adept fighter.

Weaknesses: Depending on the continuity, he may have a huge weakness to Water based attacks. | None notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Overwrite:
All Digimon can rewrite their data, so that they are able to react to various situations that were once problematic for it. This usually causes a gigantic increase in power and sometimes new skills and resistances are gained. However, the more emotional the Digimon is, the more violent the overwrite becomes.

Meramo

  • Fireball: Flares up both of its arms, knocking away the opponent.
  • Roaring Fire: Uses crimson flames to burn the opponent.
  • Fire Fist: Engulfs its hand in fire and punches the opponent.
  • Magma Blast: Emits magma rocks which rain upon its opponents.
  • Burning Fist: Engulfs both of its hands in flame, then throws them in the form of fireballs.
  • Attack Charge: Boosts his Attack Potency by 10%.
Aokiji: 5 (Zeed, Kin, Zack, Cin and PaChi)

Meramon: 0

Inconclusive: 0


-Speed Equalized

-Standard Battle Assumptions

The Icy Pirate vs The Fiery Demon
 
Doing this format due to me constantly forgetting the name of Aokiji's page when I type it in.
 
Aokiji seems to be more versatile, has high-mid Regenerationn in his logia form, and his ice powers can ignore conventional durability. I vote for him.
 
When you really want to make Raidramon vs Luffy, but remember that it could be a haxstomp for Raidramon despite the massive AP advantage Luffy has.
 
Aokiji's logia dispersion would be rendered almost useless against fire-based attacks. He could be vaped by an attack, for example.

However, he does have the ability to instantly lower the temperature surrounding a massive area, and has the durability to take hits from his opponent even when not relying on dispersion due to his ability to take hits from similarly powerful characters, and that is bolstered by the use of haki.

Aokiji takes this via freezing Meramon with Ice Time, and granting himself an environmental advantage via Ice Age. He would destroy in melee range due to Body Control, manipulating his freezing powers to counter if he takes a direct hit, much like when he froze Luffy's arm in their first fight.
 
Couldn't Meramon counter freezing with his own heat? Also Meramon does have more range naturally as well. Their ED range is the same.
 
@Dragon - Anything that Aokiji directly touches, or shoots out that touches an opponent is instantly frozen. I am not aware if Meramon could do the same with his flames, but Aokiji's freezing can be pin-point. All that it would take is for him to touch the opponent, or be directly touching the ice that is between him and Meramon.

But I will factor in Meramon and Aokiji completely neutralizing the other's abilities. Aokiji is still a Marine Admiral, and has at least an expert level of close quarters or marksman-ship. If he can't get a decisive blow on Meramon with his ice, he'll incorporate his own physical abilities with his freezing powers and haki (As a shield) until he see's an opening, or a moment Meramon loses focus before freezing him.

Aokiji has the option to shroud his body with haki, which is going to protect him, and amp up his physical strikes to some degree. It also helps Aokiji that he can maintain a drawn out fight for 10+ days before giving out.
 
Da **** no observation haki?

Ok, now that is a let down. And here I thought all three admirals had both types.
 
Yeah, but as they fight Kenbunshoku users on a daily basis, you'd think they have too.
 
CinCameron20 said:
They've only been confirmed to utilize Busoshoku Haki. Not a single one of them has used Kenbunshoku Haki (yet).
This is ridiculous to claim the admirals dont have have Kenbunshoku Haki ... this is just pettiness
 
This is ridiculous to claim the admirals dont have have Kenbunshoku Haki ... this is just pettiness


I'm gonna go with what the OP expert has to say. Perhaps they have Kenbunshoku Haki but they haven't been shown to use it for the time being. If you think otherwise make a CRT
 
Ryop, I highly suggest that you stop making accusations, and instead find me evidence that Aokiji utilizes Kenbunshoku Haki, or at least claims to have the ability. I assure you that he currently does not. Also, take that tone with me one more time.
 
Everyone, calm down.

@Ryop You had no reason to comment like that. If you disagree make a CRT with evidence.
 
I'm going to agree with Cin, giving an ability to a certain character without proof of said character having it is false, and using assumptions like "X have it, Y should have it" is a wrong one, unless there is strong evidence that hints at it and even then it would be "possibly"
 
I think Aokiji takes this mid diff.

The Hie Hie no Mi is probably one of the strongest Logias we have seen the series. It can change the temperature of the surrounding air around the user, and limit the temperature of the Mera-Mera no Mi and the Magu Magu no mi.

Yes it's theoritical weakness in this matchup would be fire, as Merman can melt aokiji, vape him and kill him.

But that will likely not work for a few reasons.

One: Aokiji Haki is strong enough to deflect the energy of Whitebeard's quakes, he can easily defend against it for a period of time and either free him instantly with ice time in the same time he would be 'melting' aokiji.

Two: Aokiji has more experience and immensely more stamina. He fought Akainu for 10 days, showing both stamina, endurance and the ability to fight someone theoritically would be his counter.

Merman advantage is likely higher ap, but that does not matter too much when Aokiji has similar ap via environmental destruction.

IE: He created a frozen wasteland on Punkhazard, froze a large part of marinefold fairly quickly


Edit: Also, he is smart. Pointed out by OP and many others before.

So Aokiji for Freezing, higher stamina and being smarter.
 
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