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Hello everyone. This is Seed here. Sorry for thr long behind title . I found these feats for my FR Respect thread on "Marvunapp" . These feats took me a long time to find, so sorry if I didn't respond to that other " Issues " thread about FR , but I felt this was much more important than any of the " old reasons" and are without a doubt my aces for such a upgrade .
As for my reasons for doing this : I would l honestly just like to see what tier these are . Not trying to revise anything unless the time comes . This will be very important to Franklin Richard's tier down the line, so I expect support . I will also bring these up on !y respect thread. And no I am not revising Man-Thing , that's for another time AFTER the revisions for Franklin and most of Marvel ( sans Eternity... He isn't 1-A by any stretch of the imagination, unless we count his portrayal in Ultimates and count him as the embodiment of his " realm " . ) . Let's get into the good feats shall we :
1) Man-Thing, due to his nature of being part of the Fallen Stars Viewing a High 1-B reality ( and possibly 1-A realm as well ) as nothing more than a dream. I feel like this alone would qualify for 1-A, but due to the statement that everything was a Sea of Nothingnesss after everything was destroyed . I feel that Eternity's Realm is a part of the Nexus now due to context ( It was never referred to as a void off Nothingness, but consistently referred to as a realm in Strange Tales and by Dormammu, not a void of Nonexistence like Oblivion. I am NOT trying to upgrade Dormammu, Umar, or Eternity either... Just stating what he said. Keep in mind Eternity's realm transcends all levels of reality and dream , so the feat in and of itself would maybe " Views many High 1-B & a 1-A reality combined as nothing more than a dream " . It happened in Strange Tales. So, would it be 1-A, and a much higher variation of 1-A later if we consider Eternity's Realm as a part of the Nexus, at least in Man-Thing's Nexus .
2) Part of the second question . Man-Thing, one of the family members of the Fallen Stars ( Who each view everything in existence as a dream in comparison to themselves ) keeps everything in existence that was destroyed by the Nexus of All Realities ( Including Eternity's Realm via reasons in question 1 ) , by believing, and survives the casual detonation of everything listed above as viewing it as a dream.That's seems incredibly high-end 1-A to me. However, I shall see what others think.
3) Man-Thing ( Who has the same Nexus as an amp [ Doesn't mean he knows how to use it well , but it still should count as an amp ] from the events above currently, and still has his powers from being part of the Fallen Stars incident, as it was retconned into being where he obtained his Nexus before he became Man-Thing ) was completely overpowered and killed by a subconscious usage of Franklin Richard's powers in " Daydreamers " . Keep in mind without the amp of an Nexus [ Think of an infinite poser boost honestly. Like, Havok became from 5-A to 2A, possibly 1-A with the feat from question 1 . So that's a significant power boost to say the least ) , he viewed Eternity's Realm " Transcending all levels of reality & dream " & " Everything in reality " ality as nothing more than a dream . So, would Franklin be 1-A if we took this into account
4) Assuming the Nexus in Man-Thing is 1-A, the Crossroads was stated to be a " Infinite Nexus of All Realities " . Would this mean that it is infinitely superior to any incarnation of the Nexus [ I would say it support s Man-Thing's, as Havok obtained the Nexus after Man-Thing' was accidentally killed by FR long into the future of earth 616, where the Crossroads of Infinity are ] ? This is important, because a bound Galactus was going to destroy the Crossroads , Negative Zone and Earth 616 in one fell swoop. This is also important, because Galactus' true form [ Without his armor, pure energy and formlessness, reached The highest point in existence in the Multiverse ] should be >>>>>> Galactus that point. Thanos w/IG lolstomped him and a Multi-Abstract. And we should all know by now FR scales to the IG .
5) Don't ask me where , but Hickman stated somewhere , in either a interview or guidebook ( Don't remember which ) that the power Galactus got from Child FR ( Which he straight up said was a small portion ) was the strongest upgrade " by far " he has ever gotten, even when Lifebringer Galactus was introduced. This is important, because Lifebringer Galactus not only should be much much weaker than True Galactus ( A formless state that surpasses all limitations Galactus had ) . He tore a hole in The Outside, a literal void outside Eternity's Realm a realm that " transcends all levels of reality and dream " and stated to be " Well beyond Eternity's reach " by eternity himself. This should scale to FR, via scaling to IG that lolnoped True Galactus, which transcends all previous limitations ( In Lifebringer, he only transcended his need to feed and became stronger . That's it. )
I thank you for looking at all of this . Please give me as much support and feedback s possible. I would appreciate I, as I spend the last two months gathering all of this .
As for my reasons for doing this : I would l honestly just like to see what tier these are . Not trying to revise anything unless the time comes . This will be very important to Franklin Richard's tier down the line, so I expect support . I will also bring these up on !y respect thread. And no I am not revising Man-Thing , that's for another time AFTER the revisions for Franklin and most of Marvel ( sans Eternity... He isn't 1-A by any stretch of the imagination, unless we count his portrayal in Ultimates and count him as the embodiment of his " realm " . ) . Let's get into the good feats shall we :
1) Man-Thing, due to his nature of being part of the Fallen Stars Viewing a High 1-B reality ( and possibly 1-A realm as well ) as nothing more than a dream. I feel like this alone would qualify for 1-A, but due to the statement that everything was a Sea of Nothingnesss after everything was destroyed . I feel that Eternity's Realm is a part of the Nexus now due to context ( It was never referred to as a void off Nothingness, but consistently referred to as a realm in Strange Tales and by Dormammu, not a void of Nonexistence like Oblivion. I am NOT trying to upgrade Dormammu, Umar, or Eternity either... Just stating what he said. Keep in mind Eternity's realm transcends all levels of reality and dream , so the feat in and of itself would maybe " Views many High 1-B & a 1-A reality combined as nothing more than a dream " . It happened in Strange Tales. So, would it be 1-A, and a much higher variation of 1-A later if we consider Eternity's Realm as a part of the Nexus, at least in Man-Thing's Nexus .
2) Part of the second question . Man-Thing, one of the family members of the Fallen Stars ( Who each view everything in existence as a dream in comparison to themselves ) keeps everything in existence that was destroyed by the Nexus of All Realities ( Including Eternity's Realm via reasons in question 1 ) , by believing, and survives the casual detonation of everything listed above as viewing it as a dream.That's seems incredibly high-end 1-A to me. However, I shall see what others think.
3) Man-Thing ( Who has the same Nexus as an amp [ Doesn't mean he knows how to use it well , but it still should count as an amp ] from the events above currently, and still has his powers from being part of the Fallen Stars incident, as it was retconned into being where he obtained his Nexus before he became Man-Thing ) was completely overpowered and killed by a subconscious usage of Franklin Richard's powers in " Daydreamers " . Keep in mind without the amp of an Nexus [ Think of an infinite poser boost honestly. Like, Havok became from 5-A to 2A, possibly 1-A with the feat from question 1 . So that's a significant power boost to say the least ) , he viewed Eternity's Realm " Transcending all levels of reality & dream " & " Everything in reality " ality as nothing more than a dream . So, would Franklin be 1-A if we took this into account
4) Assuming the Nexus in Man-Thing is 1-A, the Crossroads was stated to be a " Infinite Nexus of All Realities " . Would this mean that it is infinitely superior to any incarnation of the Nexus [ I would say it support s Man-Thing's, as Havok obtained the Nexus after Man-Thing' was accidentally killed by FR long into the future of earth 616, where the Crossroads of Infinity are ] ? This is important, because a bound Galactus was going to destroy the Crossroads , Negative Zone and Earth 616 in one fell swoop. This is also important, because Galactus' true form [ Without his armor, pure energy and formlessness, reached The highest point in existence in the Multiverse ] should be >>>>>> Galactus that point. Thanos w/IG lolstomped him and a Multi-Abstract. And we should all know by now FR scales to the IG .
5) Don't ask me where , but Hickman stated somewhere , in either a interview or guidebook ( Don't remember which ) that the power Galactus got from Child FR ( Which he straight up said was a small portion ) was the strongest upgrade " by far " he has ever gotten, even when Lifebringer Galactus was introduced. This is important, because Lifebringer Galactus not only should be much much weaker than True Galactus ( A formless state that surpasses all limitations Galactus had ) . He tore a hole in The Outside, a literal void outside Eternity's Realm a realm that " transcends all levels of reality and dream " and stated to be " Well beyond Eternity's reach " by eternity himself. This should scale to FR, via scaling to IG that lolnoped True Galactus, which transcends all previous limitations ( In Lifebringer, he only transcended his need to feed and became stronger . That's it. )
I thank you for looking at all of this . Please give me as much support and feedback s possible. I would appreciate I, as I spend the last two months gathering all of this .
