I can finally do this (I guess).

[CryoTheMayo]

Vast upscaling is not treated as making up extreme differences like that

And yet the arguments for GT Goku scaling up so high is based on the 'highest possible' scaling given for him. The one with only 'accepted' multipliers scales him to 62.5 million times whereas all of the values for DBS Goku winds up in the billions.

So in that sense, isn't GT Goku actually the one being voted for here via 'vast upscaling'? Just going based off Wrathful Broly and SSG scaling we can easily argue 500x SSG is a fine lowball that ends up with DBS Goku in the billions when you and I both know that SSG is far far stronger than that.

So, can someone provide some solid evidence for GT Goku actually winding up in the trillions range? Or even the billions? Because I'm seeing two posts that have him in the millions and the one post (which is stated to be a high ball) putting him in the trillions.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

Which would thereby imply that SSB Goku is at least 67,500,000x 3 2-C. Then X20 would be 1.35 billion times baseline 3 2-C.

Looking back here, I forgot about the Hit vs Goku rematch. Post-Black SSB Goku and Hit tied but by the ToP we see that SSG Goku scales to Hit. That's a 50x increase.

67,500,000 x 50 = 3,375,000,000
3,375,000,000 x 20 = 67.5 billion being the actual final result for X20 SSB Goku (via SSG = 500x base lowball)

 

[Omegabronic]

Looking back here, I forgot about the Hit vs Goku rematch. Post-Black SSB Goku and Hit tied but by the ToP we see that SSG Goku scales to Hit. That's a 50x increase.

67,500,000 x 50 = 3,375,000,000
3,375,000,000 x 20 = 67.5 billion being the actual final result for X20 SSB Goku (via SSG = 500x base lowball)

Where is the 500x coming from?

 

[SamanPatou]

Average DB vs thread where everyone talks about scaling chains and power levels instead of what really matters

 

[Padaruyos]

It's a scaling chain measuring contest

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Average DB vs thread where everyone talks about scaling chains and power levels instead of what really matters

That's literally all that matters here tho they have nothing more significant here than strength (and there's a 125 times difference)

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

IMO the absolute highest the scaling in GT can be taken is as follows assuming the highest end interpretations are taken at face value,

Note that I’m skipping the **** out of “> “markers because they saturate the post and don’t establish shit beyond marginal superiority

(BSS) Base Goku :1

(BSS) SS1 Goku : 50x

Rildo base / Sigma / Meta: 1/50/50

Baby: 50 (assuming he scales to either Sigma or Meta Rildo as opposed to Base )

SS1 Goten: 2500x

SS1 Gohan: 125,000x

SS1 Goku: 6,250,000x

Majuub : 6,250,000x

Golden Great Ape/SS4: 62,500,000x

( S17) Base Gohan : 6,250,000x ( Majuub expected Base Gohans KHH to be more effective than his own attacks vs S17 and was left in disbelief when it failed )

SS1 Gohan / Goku / Vegeta: 312,500,000x

SS4 Goku: 3,125,000,000x

Rage Shenron: 3,125,000,000x ( no sold SS4 KHH x10)

Base Nova : 3,125,000,000x ( stated to be above previous dragons)

Base Goku: 3,125,000,000x ( defeated Base Nove)

SS4 Goku : 1,562,500,000,000x

FPSS4 Goku: At most 15,625,000,000,000x w Dragon Fist or Self Destrcution. ( comparable to but definitely inferior to Omega)

Omega : 15,625,000,000,000x

Gogeta SS4 : ??? (no showings for his base and no known multiplier for fusions but obviously he is stronger than Omega by many times)

EoGT Base Goku: btfos omega, doesn’t elaborate, leaves.

damn

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

SSBKKx20 Goku is 12.5 billion times above the original value while FPSS4 Goku is 1.5625 trillion times above it

125 times AP stomp

Close this shit

Closing then